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Pentsa, Tomek, Papuga to be investigated [ENGLISH]
Pentsa, Tomek, Papuga to be investigated [ENGLISH]
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Australia
Australia
18 Oct 2016 4:14
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NOTE: if we can have both languages posted on the website, as many people in Serbia also need to know what is going on, because they only seem to believe one side of the story shed by these 3 crooks.
Dear Brothers and Sisters,
There are a large number of people that read and are up to date with all the comments that are widely spread and broad casted regarding senior Paul Pentsa, Janko Tomek and Vlada Papuga, mainly in reference to the Australian website.
It seems clear that a lot of wasted time has been spent putting comments on the website, including quoting a lot of biblical verses. It appears little has, if any, actually changed. It could be believed that this method may not even change things in the future either.
Things appear quite clear that this method isn't changing those that has transgressed God's commandment: "do not covet" and "do not steal", which includes the stolen $930,000 Australian dollars from the Brothers and Sisters that worked hard to build and repay God's House of Prayer in Altona. This didn't seem enough for them, when they also kicked out the Altona Brethren out on the streets.
Is it possible for anyone to commit such a deed if they have accepted the Holy Spirit and continue to obey the Holy Spirit? The Faithful members of the Lord that are led by the Holy Spirit cannot commit in doing something like this, because they continue in working out their salvation with much fear and trembling. Only unbelievers are able to commit such actions.
Many people can openly see and its clear to us all that those groups that have left and split away and are together with Pentsa, Tomek and Papuga have lost God's holy fear. Even so it is questioned whether they actually ever received the Holy Spirit.
Your deeds committed with the Church in Sydney and the Church in Altona is clear that its the work of clear unfaithfulness and ungodliness.
We do not wish to take God's judgement in our hands, but God's word clearly states "ye shall know them by their works", which openly and clearly towards many of us indicates the works of Pentsa, Tomek and Papuga as clear unbelief.
And they likewise continue to transgress God's word which Christ taught that "the Gentiles exercise lordship", and "so shall it NOT be among you". Pentsa, Tomek and Papuga continue committing openly and wishing to prove to others how they can rule by force and with much cruelty, over those whom our Saviour shed his innocent blood for.
It is also brought to the open that not only Pentsa, but likewise the North America Elders with their spiritual self righteous actions mingle and manipulate others as a single penny in their pockets. And then they think they can openly state that they go to bed in peace. (Maybe because they don't actually have a conscience at all?)
This is the reason why I think its time to call upon the Federal Government in Canberra, so an investigation can be done on them. The next step would require that a vote with the Church be conducted for the ordination of Tomek and Papuga. At least 75% of the votes would need to be addressed, which is according to Gods law and law of the land.
Senior Paul Pentsa knows very well that Andrew Kozy also thought that he can do whatever he wants to and until he ever wanted to, until God showed what is enough and put a stop to his actions. Pentsa knows how Kozy's life ended, which was his bodyguard and protector in sin. It appears that maybe Pentsa's life will end in the same way, if he doesn't repent.
It would also be important to understand how Elders in Serbia; Bilek Misa and Golub Milos view the gross sins committed by Tomek and Papuga. Not to mention how the members of Padina Church blindly view them too, seeing the depth of the sins committed by them.
It's very clear that the members of the Padina Church have respect of persons, even if its in question of $930,000 Australian Dollars.
Brethren, it might sound harsh to state that these are real bullies, whom have a desire to rule over others with full force and complete cruelty, over those that Jesus died on the cross for. Nor Pentsa, neither any other elder died on the cross for anyone's sins. Only Jesus Christ did.
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Dear Brothers and Sisters,
There are a large number of people that read and are up to date with all the comments that are widely spread and broad casted regarding senior Paul Pentsa, Janko Tomek and Vlada Papuga, mainly in reference to the Australian website.
It seems clear that a lot of wasted time has been spent putting comments on the website, including quoting a lot of biblical verses. It appears little has, if any, actually changed. It could be believed that this method may not even change things in the future either.
Things appear quite clear that this method isn't changing those that has transgressed God's commandment: "do not covet" and "do not steal", which includes the stolen $930,000 Australian dollars from the Brothers and Sisters that worked hard to build and repay God's House of Prayer in Altona. This didn't seem enough for them, when they also kicked out the Altona Brethren out on the streets.
Is it possible for anyone to commit such a deed if they have accepted the Holy Spirit and continue to obey the Holy Spirit? The Faithful members of the Lord that are led by the Holy Spirit cannot commit in doing something like this, because they continue in working out their salvation with much fear and trembling. Only unbelievers are able to commit such actions.
Many people can openly see and its clear to us all that those groups that have left and split away and are together with Pentsa, Tomek and Papuga have lost God's holy fear. Even so it is questioned whether they actually ever received the Holy Spirit.
Your deeds committed with the Church in Sydney and the Church in Altona is clear that its the work of clear unfaithfulness and ungodliness.
We do not wish to take God's judgement in our hands, but God's word clearly states "ye shall know them by their works", which openly and clearly towards many of us indicates the works of Pentsa, Tomek and Papuga as clear unbelief.
And they likewise continue to transgress God's word which Christ taught that "the Gentiles exercise lordship", and "so shall it NOT be among you". Pentsa, Tomek and Papuga continue committing openly and wishing to prove to others how they can rule by force and with much cruelty, over those whom our Saviour shed his innocent blood for.
It is also brought to the open that not only Pentsa, but likewise the North America Elders with their spiritual self righteous actions mingle and manipulate others as a single penny in their pockets. And then they think they can openly state that they go to bed in peace. (Maybe because they don't actually have a conscience at all?)
This is the reason why I think its time to call upon the Federal Government in Canberra, so an investigation can be done on them. The next step would require that a vote with the Church be conducted for the ordination of Tomek and Papuga. At least 75% of the votes would need to be addressed, which is according to Gods law and law of the land.
Senior Paul Pentsa knows very well that Andrew Kozy also thought that he can do whatever he wants to and until he ever wanted to, until God showed what is enough and put a stop to his actions. Pentsa knows how Kozy's life ended, which was his bodyguard and protector in sin. It appears that maybe Pentsa's life will end in the same way, if he doesn't repent.
It would also be important to understand how Elders in Serbia; Bilek Misa and Golub Milos view the gross sins committed by Tomek and Papuga. Not to mention how the members of Padina Church blindly view them too, seeing the depth of the sins committed by them.
It's very clear that the members of the Padina Church have respect of persons, even if its in question of $930,000 Australian Dollars.
Brethren, it might sound harsh to state that these are real bullies, whom have a desire to rule over others with full force and complete cruelty, over those that Jesus died on the cross for. Nor Pentsa, neither any other elder died on the cross for anyone's sins. Only Jesus Christ did.
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Florida
USA
USA
19 Oct 2016 2:09
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All of you that keep reading and posting this need to examine your lives. Why waste time on such foolish issues? Look to "JESUS" not man.
Let's be real
USA
USA
19 Oct 2016 2:52
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Oh, Florida, you're NOT reading it??? Come on. Think before you post.
Wondering
Australia
Australia
19 Oct 2016 5:07
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the words of Jesus........
Jesus didnt keep quiet to condemn the works of darkness...
St.John 7:6,7
6). Then Jesus said unto them, My time is not yet come: but your time is alway ready.
7). The world cannot hate you; but me it hateth, because I testify of it, that the works thereof are evil.
Jesus didnt keep quiet to condemn the works of darkness...
St.John 7:6,7
6). Then Jesus said unto them, My time is not yet come: but your time is alway ready.
7). The world cannot hate you; but me it hateth, because I testify of it, that the works thereof are evil.
Makes sense
Australia
Australia
19 Oct 2016 19:56
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Finally a post that makes sense!
When Tomek, Papuga and Pentsa conspired against the Altona church members to steal a church and kick it’s members out, they broke the law of the land.
The problem starts with the elders and the members who haven’t spoken up, haven’t done a thing to make right the wrong that was done. You broke the law and committed a crime!
Just because you are a believer, doesn’t give you the right to commit a crime and say that you’ve done it in the name of Christ, which is what you all have done that support the church thieves by attending the church dedication and being apart of that church. ANYONE who is attending the new church building and attended the dedication - you are part-takers in the crime that was committed by supporting the church thieves!
If people are posting comments using God’s word to swipe this sin and crime under a rug, you need ask yourself if manipulating God’s word to cover a crime and sin is righteous?
When Tomek, Papuga and Pentsa conspired against the Altona church members to steal a church and kick it’s members out, they broke the law of the land.
The problem starts with the elders and the members who haven’t spoken up, haven’t done a thing to make right the wrong that was done. You broke the law and committed a crime!
Just because you are a believer, doesn’t give you the right to commit a crime and say that you’ve done it in the name of Christ, which is what you all have done that support the church thieves by attending the church dedication and being apart of that church. ANYONE who is attending the new church building and attended the dedication - you are part-takers in the crime that was committed by supporting the church thieves!
If people are posting comments using God’s word to swipe this sin and crime under a rug, you need ask yourself if manipulating God’s word to cover a crime and sin is righteous?
Reality Check!!!!!
Canada
Canada
19 Oct 2016 20:59
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Psalm 127: Except the Lord build the house, they labour in vain that build it.
Isn't it amazing that the Bible concisely describes the New Church Building in Tarneit.
All the time & effort as well as a whole lot of money spent, which came about by cheating the Members from the Old Altoona Church & literally kicking them onto the street as the Old Building was sold out from under them.
What is very disturbing is that there was No Accountability involved. Building a New Church is supposed to be transparent. It's for the Membership so every Brother and Sister should be informed of what costs are, as well as what has been raised and what debt will be incurred. If it's not Public Knowledge, then it is very obvious that the Membership is being scammed out of their hard-earned dollars they give to the Church.
This New Glorious "House of Janko Temple" that the Wanna-Be Self Appointed Elder himself along with his children Priscilla & Aquilla scammed and stole to build seats 300 persons. The reality is, that there may be perhaps 80 attending including children.....& that number is dwindling
What will happen when Wanna-Be Self appointed Elder and his Disciples realize that they can't carry the costs of the New Building. I guess there will be a big FOR SALE sign out front and then once again; the Lawsuits and Court Battles will begin with who gets to keep the money. Seems like Deja Vu. But I guess that's the way Paul Pentsa likes it. Embarrassing & Shaming our Nazarean Church by taking his Brothers to a Court of Law, and fighting it out in the face of the Public.
EXACTLY the opposite of what the Bible teaches!!
Then again, it's in keeping with the methods that Self-Appointed Elder Paul, the King of Hypocrisy & his Kiss Up Side-Kick Wanna-Be Elder Janko exercise to run the Church. Do everything the total opposite of what God's Word teaches.
If you take a step back and observe their Ungodly behaviour and ethics, it becomes obvious that they are practicing a form of SHARIA LAW (pure dictatorship)
It's really sad & heartbreaking how Australia seems to attract every Loser that wants to be a Leader, but can't make it anywhere else in the world.... so they set up camp in Australia.
Janko has been an Assistant Elder for probably 10 years (probably the longest serving Elder Assistant in all Nazarean Church History....not exactly what you want to be known as or remembered for). He can't ever get enough votes for a Confirmation. They even go as far as to lower the Confirm Percentage, and he still doesn't get the Churches Support. So his only option left is he has to have his Master Paul appoint him Elder as that will be the only way he can ever get in. WOW talk about "Unscrupulous Character"
Paul Pentsa was a Preacher in Kitchener at the Romanian Mansion Street Church along with his Brothers. When they were removed from the ministry because of their constant fighting and problems they were causing, they couldn't humbly accept the serving Elders Resolution so they left & started their own Pentsa Church.
They had to shut that down as they were threatened with expulsion if they didn't return to either the Romanian Church or Sydney Street Church.
They chose Sydney Street but only for a short while, and then Paul packed up and came down to Australia to grace you all with his presence and Self-Promote his way into the Eldership.
The pitiful Pentsa tradition & ritual of trying to be a "Somebody" and be in a "Position of Power and Leadership" continues.......
You know... I once heard it said, that if you want to know if you are a "Good Leader", simply stop and turn around. If no one is following you, then you are definitely not Leadership Material.
I think Paul & Janko ought to heed the above or they will find themselves by themselves.
Isn't it amazing that the Bible concisely describes the New Church Building in Tarneit.
All the time & effort as well as a whole lot of money spent, which came about by cheating the Members from the Old Altoona Church & literally kicking them onto the street as the Old Building was sold out from under them.
What is very disturbing is that there was No Accountability involved. Building a New Church is supposed to be transparent. It's for the Membership so every Brother and Sister should be informed of what costs are, as well as what has been raised and what debt will be incurred. If it's not Public Knowledge, then it is very obvious that the Membership is being scammed out of their hard-earned dollars they give to the Church.
This New Glorious "House of Janko Temple" that the Wanna-Be Self Appointed Elder himself along with his children Priscilla & Aquilla scammed and stole to build seats 300 persons. The reality is, that there may be perhaps 80 attending including children.....& that number is dwindling
What will happen when Wanna-Be Self appointed Elder and his Disciples realize that they can't carry the costs of the New Building. I guess there will be a big FOR SALE sign out front and then once again; the Lawsuits and Court Battles will begin with who gets to keep the money. Seems like Deja Vu. But I guess that's the way Paul Pentsa likes it. Embarrassing & Shaming our Nazarean Church by taking his Brothers to a Court of Law, and fighting it out in the face of the Public.
EXACTLY the opposite of what the Bible teaches!!
Then again, it's in keeping with the methods that Self-Appointed Elder Paul, the King of Hypocrisy & his Kiss Up Side-Kick Wanna-Be Elder Janko exercise to run the Church. Do everything the total opposite of what God's Word teaches.
If you take a step back and observe their Ungodly behaviour and ethics, it becomes obvious that they are practicing a form of SHARIA LAW (pure dictatorship)
It's really sad & heartbreaking how Australia seems to attract every Loser that wants to be a Leader, but can't make it anywhere else in the world.... so they set up camp in Australia.
Janko has been an Assistant Elder for probably 10 years (probably the longest serving Elder Assistant in all Nazarean Church History....not exactly what you want to be known as or remembered for). He can't ever get enough votes for a Confirmation. They even go as far as to lower the Confirm Percentage, and he still doesn't get the Churches Support. So his only option left is he has to have his Master Paul appoint him Elder as that will be the only way he can ever get in. WOW talk about "Unscrupulous Character"
Paul Pentsa was a Preacher in Kitchener at the Romanian Mansion Street Church along with his Brothers. When they were removed from the ministry because of their constant fighting and problems they were causing, they couldn't humbly accept the serving Elders Resolution so they left & started their own Pentsa Church.
They had to shut that down as they were threatened with expulsion if they didn't return to either the Romanian Church or Sydney Street Church.
They chose Sydney Street but only for a short while, and then Paul packed up and came down to Australia to grace you all with his presence and Self-Promote his way into the Eldership.
The pitiful Pentsa tradition & ritual of trying to be a "Somebody" and be in a "Position of Power and Leadership" continues.......
You know... I once heard it said, that if you want to know if you are a "Good Leader", simply stop and turn around. If no one is following you, then you are definitely not Leadership Material.
I think Paul & Janko ought to heed the above or they will find themselves by themselves.
Comment 1
Australia
Australia
19 Oct 2016 23:33
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Just a correction! Janko has been assistant Elder for 15 years now.
It is known in Nazarean church history,that some passed away as assistant Elders. There is no crime in that.
It is known in Nazarean church history,that some passed away as assistant Elders. There is no crime in that.
Moderator
Australia
Australia
19 Oct 2016 23:53
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Comment 1, let's try and use recognizable names and stick to them. That way everyone who reads the forum will be able to track the comments and their authors.
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