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ACCN Forum | SBS: Sulja Homes in Melbourne not delivering

Moderator
Australia
3 Mar 2017 9:33

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At least 30 families have suffered at the hands of this Melbourne builder

27 Feb 2017 - 5:59pm

When Sulja Homes didn't begin contruction of Hem Verma's home, months after the contract had been signed and thousands of dollars were paid, Verma approached Consumer Affairs Victoria and VCAT, and received favourable rulings from them. Despite VCAT ordering Sulja Homes to pay Verma $10,500 back, nothing has happened - no monies have been returned and the house construction hasn't even begun. And as SBS Punjabi found out, the Verma family isn't alone at the receiving end of this.

For Hem Verma, it all began in October 2015, when he signed a contract with Sulja Homes in Melbourne, to build a double storey dwelling in Tarniet for a total cost of $263K. He paid $18,337 up front, which included a 5% deposit and $5,200 in upgrades.

By mid-2016, no construction had begun on Verma's block of land - even soil test reports and final plans had not been sent through. Verma approached Consumer Affairs Victoria, who asked Sulja Builders to pay back the $5,200 of upgrades to Verma. Verma was further advised to lodge a case at Victorian Civil and Administrative Tribunal (VCAT) to claim the rest of the money.

In November 2016, Verma managed to strike a settlement with Sulja Homes with the help of a VCAT mediator. The owner of Sulja Homes, Ondrej Sulja was present at the settlement, and "agreed to pay me $10,500 by 25th November 2016, in the presence of his lawyer and a VCAT mediator".

When Verma still hadn’t received the money early this year, he approached VCAT again in February 2017, which enforced the terms of settlement and ordered Sulja Homes to repay Hem Verma.

Ondrej Sulja didn't appear at the hearing on Feb 14 and till date, has not settled the monies, as adjudicated by VCAT.

Hem Verma has spoken to SBS Punjabi about the immense hardship he and at least 30 other families have suffered, because of Sulja Homes. "I'm repaying instalments for the block of land I had bought two years ago, am paying the Council, but after all of this, not even a brick has been laid on my land. Perhaps I'm luckier than those who are living on rent in small houses, with extended families. This has been a nightmare for all of us".

In some cases, construction was begun, but the sites have been deserted for many months now. In Hem Verma's case, contruction didn't even begin.

"My advice to everyone out there is, do your home work before you sign up with any builder. For the sake of saving some money, don't go with a small builder. And make sure your lawyer reads the contract before you sign it - I've now found out from another builder that the contract signed by Sulja with may not even be valid. All the points in the checklist have not been ticked off. So please, take care when you sign a building contract," says Hem Verma.

SBS Punjabi has contacted Sulja Homes numerous times on the phone, but it has gone unanswered. We are still awaiting a response to our email request.

Link:

http://www.sbs.com.au/yourlanguage/punjabi/en/article/2017/02/24/least-30-families-have-suffered-hands-melbourne-builder

Moderator
Australia
3 Mar 2017 9:59

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For our readers who do not live in Australia: SBS is a local Australian, government-funded television channel.

Moderator
Australia
3 Mar 2017 12:59

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http://www.productreview.com.au/p/sulja-homes.html

...And as Yul Brynner would say in "The King and I" - Et cetera, et cetera, et cetera..!

Repent
Australia
4 Mar 2017 23:05

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There's one thing the church needs above everything else. It's something the church doesn't talk about very much. We need a mighty avalanche of conviction of sin.

Birds of a feather..
Australia
16 Mar 2017 22:22

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Andre doing so many bad things in Melbourne to people....and Paul pentsa jr. takes Andre and his family in. In case you haven't heard, they moving to Brisbane by end of month. Andre owes thousands of money to people and is running away. Why would Paul do so much for someone that is so bad. Maybe Paul jr. will give Andre a job as supervisor and in return....Andre and Elena will be 2 more votes for the pentsa side. The love of $ is the root of all evil.

Very evil
Australia
16 Mar 2017 22:28

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You scratch my back...I scratch your back. Paul pentsa sr. needs all the votes he can get for the upcoming voting in marsden church for confirming Alex taba on ministering. Paul sr. and Paul jr. working together very sick plan. The Paul jr. looks like a nice person but if the intention behind his help to Sulla family is look very evil and tricky. Us people are not blind anymore. We all waiting for this vote for Alex. We know it is coming soon because is going to be one year now since on trial.

What???
Australia
16 Mar 2017 22:37

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This can't be. Andre can't stand the pentsas. But I guess for money and opportunity anything is possible. I hope all of the people in marsden think and pray real hard about voting Alex taba in. He is not even meant to be preaching. Poor people if he gets in....that will give no chance for voting for Denis flora to be minister again in Paul sr. church. I hope members will not be tricked again like last year when Paul sr. tricked the whole church. Start praying for the right outcome this time.

Pray
Australia
16 Mar 2017 22:43

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Pray to The Lord that He opens all your eyes and to vote with the Holy Spirit. Don't be afraid like last time, just because many of you work for Paul jr. The Lord will provide for all His children who obey Him. How sad it will be if we disobey the Lords leading.

Why??
Australia
18 Mar 2017 16:30

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Why did Andrej keep taking deposits of innocent people when he couldn't complete houses over the last 2 years....my theory is that he stole money doing a runner now and also sold his block of land in Caroline Springs not completed and filed for bankruptcy. You need to return and pay back all those poor people you took their deposits Andrej it's the Christian duty.

Repent
Australia
18 Mar 2017 18:53

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Only Christians do Christian duty's not thevies who steal who try to make a big name for themselves. Tarneit was not built on gods foundation but on Paul pentsa and Janko tomeks foundation so there is no blessing from God there.

Moderator
Australia
20 Mar 2017 9:39

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So there in Marsden you have one brother who is capable of preaching (DF) but not allowed to, and one who is not capable (AT) but supported by PP because he is his son-in-law and loyal to PP? Would you agree?

TO: Sleeping members
Australia
20 Mar 2017 15:38

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2 Timothy 4:3
For the time will come when they will not endure sound doctrine; but after their own lusts shall they heap to themselves teachers, having itching ears;


1 Kings 13:33
After this thing Jeroboam returned not from his evil way, but made again of the lowest of the people priests of the high places: whosoever would, he consecrated him, and he became one of the priests of the high places.


Isaiah 9:15,16
15 The ancient and honourable, he is the head; and the prophet that teacheth lies, he is the tail.
16 For the leaders of this people cause them to err; and they that are led of them are destroyed.

Pray
Australia
31 Mar 2017 20:12

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Let's be in prayer for Andre, that he arrived safely,he is coming to Brisbane this week. We need to pray that he is safe and healthy for when he gets here so he can work for Paul Pentsa jr. He needs to start earning money so he can pay off his debt he owes to so many people back in Melbourne. THAT'S IF PAUL WILL PAY HIM. WORD HAS IT...HE'S NOT EVEN PAYING HIS TRADE COMPANIES AND THEY CAN'T PAY THEIR WORKERS. WHAT A SHAME!!!! BIRDS OF A FEATHER.....FLOCK TOGETHER.

Praying
USA
9 Apr 2017 20:36

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Having read this and many many more topics and replies, it seems the higher you are in this religion/cult the more sin you seem to get away with both morally and financially not excluding unlawfully. Though you that comment are no better, adding a gospel reading and waiting until death to see what will happen is the most ludacris. ridiculous moronic. idiotic thing I have ever read. If you truly believe in your heart and mind to do the right thing, report all wrong doing to either the Police, Ato, or other government body to rectify all wrongdoings against others. Sitting back and praying helps no one except those that are doing wrong, you sitting back doing nothing is just as bad if not worse as you know. understand and have a conscious.

Back to you
Australia
13 Apr 2017 8:42

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Don't worry Andrej we haven't forgotten about you. you pretend to be so holy and a good Christian. You owe lots of money to people, I hope you don't think you are free to take prayers, lead songs, Sunday school teacher in church when you believe others in your same position shouldn't be.


No way
Australia
13 Apr 2017 8:51

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Vote NO for Alex Taba this coming election in marsdan church. He's not even meant to be up there. Plus he can't preach. If I wanted to fall asleep I would have stayed home in bed. He bores me half to death. He's another proud person that acts all humble. He thinks he has the gift to preach but we all can see and hear he has no talent for preaching, maybe for cooking Hungarian goulash.

Vote NO for Nick Pentsa also for assistant elder. He's just plain hopeless, no talent what so ever. Again I could have stayed home to sleep.

WE WANT DENIS FLORA BACK AND NOW!!!

..
Australia
13 Apr 2017 8:52

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Amen bring on the voting

TO: no way
Australia
13 Apr 2017 19:24

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dont rely on the website to stand up in Marsden.

"YOU" need to stand up in Marsden.

if "YOU" dont stand up in Marsden to back the right, you ALSO are in fault for pentsa getting away with his sins, unrighteousness, unholiness and ungodliness, and spiritual filth.

lets see in the coming sundays whether or not you do anything.

with your words you will be justified or condemned.

pentsa will not be standing on the last day with you on the gate to heaven or the gate to the lake of fire.

think of your faith with God, and act accordingly to your faith.

God gave you this faith, not pentsa. be thankful and grateful.

lets see your faith by your works, not your faith by your words.



To...To: no way
Australia
14 Apr 2017 17:13

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I'm not form there so why would I stand.

No way
Australia
14 Apr 2017 17:20

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I'm not even from Marsden.

Christian 100%
Australia
18 Apr 2017 19:54

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 1 Timothy 6 10- For the love of money is the root of all evil: which while some coveted after, they have erred from the faith, and pierced themselves through with many sorrows.

Ephesians 5:3 - But fornication, and all uncleanness, or covetousness, let it not be once named among you, as becometh saints;


Acts 20:33-35 - I have coveted no man's silver, or gold, or apparel.   (Read More...)

2 Corinthians 9:8 - And God [is] able to make all grace abound toward you; that ye, always having all sufficiency in all [things], may abound to every good work:

Matthew 6:33 - But seek ye first the kingdom of God, and his righteousness; and all these things shall be added unto you.

Paul wrote
But now I have written unto you not to keep company, any man that is called a brother be a covetous, greedy, idolater extortioner; with such an one no not to eat.

You shall know them by their fruits...

to: no way
Australia
19 Apr 2017 21:32

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oh, it sounded like you were the way you commented
apologies.

HARD EARNED MONEY
Australia
22 Apr 2017 15:00

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SULJA IS A BIG LIAR.YOU SOLD UP AND STASHED THE CASH AND NOW DOING A RUNNER TO BRISBANE.YOU CAN LIE BUT REMEMBER THAT ALOT OF PEOPLE DONT BELIEVE YOU.PAY BACK THE MONEY YOU OWN.BANKRUPT MEANS ZERO MONIES LEFT.

HOLY DAY OF REST

22 Apr 2017 15:14

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SULJA HOMES HAD HIS DISPLAY HOMES OPEN AND RUNNING ON SUNDAY STEALING PEOPLES DEPOSITS.
AND WHAT DOES THE BIBLE SAY ABOUT THIS.

Exodus 20:10 Context

7Thou shalt not take the name of the LORD thy God in vain; for the LORD will not hold him guiltless that taketh his name in vain. 8Remember the sabbath day, to keep it holy. 9Six days shalt thou labour, and do all thy work: 10But the seventh day is the sabbath of the LORD thy God: in it thou shalt not do any work, thou, nor thy son, nor thy daughter, thy manservant, nor thy maidservant, nor thy cattle, nor thy stranger that is within thy gates: 11For in six days the LORD made heaven and earth, the sea, and all that in them is, and rested the seventh day: wherefore the LORD blessed the sabbath day, and hallowed it. 12Honour thy father and thy mother: that thy days may be long upon the land which the LORD thy God giveth thee. 13Thou shalt not kill.

ROMANS 13.9
For this, Thou shalt not commit adultery, Thou shalt not kill, Thou shalt not steal, Thou shalt not bear false witness, Thou shalt not covet; and if there be any other commandment, it is briefly comprehended in this saying, namely, Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself.


Stolen Money
USA
22 Apr 2017 22:08

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Coincidental going to Brisbane, I think not. Who's business is he now working for? Not only is he a lying, stealing cheat but so is the one whom he is now employed with and chooses to look the other way at all his wrongdoings.

Moderator
Australia
1 May 2017 12:19

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From Facebook, date: 1 March 2017:



Moderator
Australia
1 May 2017 12:22

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Justin Ebbels
March 1

So I'm not really one to speak publicly about personal issues, especially super negative ones, but this time I've been pushed a little too far and it is affecting myself and my family (my fiancé Leah and our 11 month old son) in a really big (and negative) way.

In 2015 I was really proud to lay down a deposit for my first ever block of land to build my first house. Everyone talks about how nobody making under $80k could buy a house, and I was doing it within 25km of Melbourne on around $50k. This was huge for me and I excitedly went to the builder advertising a plan they had for my block on realestate.com.au.

This builder was Sulja Homes. I went and looked through their display home, their book of plans and decided on one and paid my deposit. I signed my contract in July 2015 and paid the rest of my 8% deposit (around $10k).

The land then titled in Feb 2016, which meant it was ready to build on, and I assumed seeing as I'd already signed my contract, paid my deposit, gone through colour selection and had all my finance sorted that getting started on the build was close. I was wrong. Very, very wrong.

For months I called weekly to ask what the hold up was, and kept being told "we aren't far off, a few weeks and we should be right" in the contract it gives them 60 days to obtain all permits and builders warranty/insurance. 6 months passed, and my calls were now multiple times weekly. I was over it. I asked for a refund on my deposits so I could go somewhere else. This was refused.

I was then told that warranty had finally come through in October so they could start soon, but I soon found out this was a massive lie (by the way, this is illegal, they should have had it months ago and they still to this day never got it) which I only found out after multiple phone calls to different insurance companies until I found theirs, as they refused to provide proof.

December rolled around and I had a meeting with the director and the company's new investor Sam. They told me the only way they would build my house is if we increased the contract price by $43k. Yes, $43,000! That was more than 20% of the original price ON TOP! This is also illegal by the way, an increase of such large proportions. I was told after refusing I could finally have my money back, but I have not seen a cent from Sulja.

This was happening to many, many people, and some unfortunate people had (somehow) already had their house started by Sulja homes, and have still not been finished up to a year later, and can't get a release of contract from them.

...continues...

Moderator
Australia
1 May 2017 12:23

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...continued:


It has now been over a year since my land was ready to build on, land which I have been paying interest on with no house for over a year because of a Ondrej Sulja (director and owner of Sulja homes).

I have gone to put in a VCAT application to take action, to be told he is not turning up to hearings and it would be a waste of time and money. He has ripped off so many people, and put so many in a tough situation. With an 11 month old, and a partner who works hard to look after him for no income while paying rent AND interest on a block of land for so long, when I should be in a house on that block times are incredibly tough.

To some people $10,000 isn't a lot, but without that money I can't pay a new builder. It takes me nearly 3 months to earn that BEFORE tax. That is a huge chunk of one year. I don't understand how one person can be so despicable, especially with a child of his own, to put someone in a situation like this.

I understand a lot probably didn't read this at all, but for those that have come this far, I thank you for reading what I have to say, and please, if you don't mind, share this so nobody else gets screwed by this man. And if you know anyone who can help in any way with taking action against him, please help me get in touch with them. I don't have money for a lawyer, and the fee's would outweigh what he owes me anyway.

I want to make sure he Ondrej works in the building industry again, so nobody else has to go through what myself and my family have.

Something like this has a huge impact on ones mental health. I think about it at work, I think about it at home, at events, while with friends and even while doing some of the things that make me happiest, like playing hockey and golf and spending days off with my family. These things help me get through each month, but it's always in the back of my mind, tainting these would-be-perfect moments.

Not a day goes by where I don't think about this, and how to do something about it. I know it isn't my fault, but I can't help but think I've let my son and partner down in a way of colossal proportions. Just like anyone else, all I want is to provide a safe and comfortable place for them to live in, because they deserve it, and while that once seemed so close, it feels like it's starting to get out of reach.

wow

2 May 2017 16:33

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That's bad.

Heartless thieves
Australia
2 May 2017 17:28

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Ondrei Sulja's church should be placing Ondrei under dicipline and contribute in working out a plan to help pay back the money to these poor families. Yes, we understand because of your greed and stupidity, your wife and kids are suffering, left with nothing but it's your duty to pay back everyone you took money from.

Duh
Australia
2 May 2017 23:11

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Tarneit church, for righteous sake, stand up, speak and defend what is right.

not possible

3 May 2017 11:03

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1 Tim. 6:10

10.For the love of money is the root of all evil: which while some coveted after, they have erred from the faith, and pierced themselves through with many sorrows.

when elder pentsa and his son are caught up in this sinful and evil snare, how can he put anyone under discipline for this error of sin?

Moderator

3 May 2017 11:19

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I believe he just does not care, knowing no one will dare to protest except here on the Internet.

Dicipline
Australia
3 May 2017 17:37

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While you're at it, Janko Tomek, his wife and daughter Martha Kolarik, grumpy old lady Maria Mohan, Michael Stanjo, Petrak's and ALL those who hate thou brother or sister should all be diciplined for hate crimes. Their faith is in vain!

Curious
Netherlands
3 May 2017 18:40

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Is there any chance anybody knows the name of the Church Ondrej currently goes to? Is it on a Sunday he goes, and what Church he will be going to in Brisbane.

I was one of the people robbed by Ondrej, and would like to attend the same service

Marsden Church
Australia
3 May 2017 18:44

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It is in Brisbane / Logan / Marsden

address
Australia
3 May 2017 20:48

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its the one with a cross, if you look at it from the top of the church

the address is 14 Second Ave Marsden

Curious
Netherlands
5 May 2017 15:02

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Is he already living there? Or is he still around Melbourne somewhere attending a church around Tarneit or Caroline Springs?

Where is Sulja
USA
5 May 2017 20:46

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Can anyone confirm where Ondrei Sulja is, Melbourne or Queensland. If no one wants to protest, maybe take a copy of all complaints made against Ondrei and place it on cars or inconspicuously in church. Those that choose to do nothing and allow Ondrei to get away with a felony are no better. If anyone has any useful information no matter how little pass it on to the authorities to deal with. Being disciplined within the church is not going to help people like Justin Ebbles that lost not only $10,000 but what it may be doing to his marriage, his children, his mental health.

pick & choose
Australia
6 May 2017 14:03

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Dear Moderator!
Please do not be selective; U stated before that everyone can write what one feels.

pick & choose
Australia
6 May 2017 14:10

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Dear Moderator!
Please do not be selective; U stated before that everyone can write what one feels.
Why u delete comment??

Moderator
Australia
6 May 2017 14:12

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Again, this website is not selective.

Your comment has been deleted because it referred to Panta and Elizabeth Brici and their conflict with the Markovicans. That conflict has been legally resolved long ago and there is no reason for bringing it back. On the top if that, it has nothing to do with Ondrei Sulja. Greetings, ACCN Website.

comment
Australia
6 May 2017 14:16

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Yes! Ondrei and Elizabeth Brici are relatives;
Ondrei's grandma and Elizabeth mum are sisters!!!

Moderator
Australia
6 May 2017 14:22

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In the Nazarene church pretty much everyone is related to someone else.

pick & choose
Australia
6 May 2017 14:23

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No wonder they are both scammers.

money,money,money...
Australia
6 May 2017 14:42

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Reply to Moderator; In Nazarene church they are few scammers,as well and need to be revealed.
Best Regard,

money,money,money...
Australia
6 May 2017 14:59

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The thief will strike again!!

Truth
Australia
6 May 2017 15:11

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There are some very money hungry people in this church.It is a sad fact.

christian
Australia
6 May 2017 17:09

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covetous is no a sin anymore, australia has laws to protect theives.
just like being a homo these days. they are protected also.
gay marriage will be legal soon.
neither will enter the heavenly kingdom.
last days.

Holy Bible
Evil in the Last Days
1But understand this: In the last days terrible times will come. 2For men will be lovers of themselves, lovers of money, boastful, arrogant, abusive, disobedient to their parents, ungrateful, unholy,…
Berean Study Bible · Download
Cross References
1 Timothy 4:1
Now the Spirit expressly states that in later times some will abandon the faith to follow deceitful spirits and the teachings of demons,

2 Timothy 4:3
For the time will come when men will not tolerate sound doctrine, but with itching ears they will gather around themselves teachers to suit their own desires.

Jude 1:18
when they said to you, "In the last times there will be scoffers who will follow after their own ungodly desires."

Or do you not know that the unrighteous1 will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived: xneither the sexually immoral, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor men who practice homosexuality,2 10 nor thieves, nor the greedy, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor swindlers will inherit the kingdom of God.


money,money,money...
Australia
7 May 2017 11:04

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Ondrei! this is terrible what u have done to so many people; stop boasting. U should be remorseful and not to bring prayers in church.
In what we call "olden days" people like u would be put under restriction or even expelled from the church.

I know u saying your manager and Jupiter real-estate stole yo money,but I don't see u chasing them. May be we should talk to them.


Disgusted
Australia
7 May 2017 13:56

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Ondrei ! Do you know that you make lot of home owners suffer because of you/Sulja homes ?

I hope karma will hunt you. You will someday feel what they feel.
You will experience what you did to them.

Karma will find it way to you soon..


Be a honest person
Australia
17 May 2017 18:48

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Ondrej, you took the our hard earning money promising that you will give us the money which you have to give us back, but never you turned back to us. we did a mistake trusting you. How can you stay peaceful in you heart cheating people like us. you will see how much you will suffer taking our money and getting all the bad wishes from all people. the amount you took from us 10 time of that amount you will loose, that day you will remember.

turn a blind eye
Australia
9 Jun 2017 14:55

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Ye cannot drink the cup of the Lord, and the cup of devils: ye cannot be partakers of the Lord's table, and of the table of devils. The mistake you are making that you underestimated the purpose of the Lord's Supper as spiritual fellowship with Christ.

In the eating and drinking by faith we nourish ourselves on the blessings purchased by Christ's shed blood and broken body. And so this Supper really does help protect us from destruction by making us want to flee idolatry not by making us secure in idolatry.But no you covetous, you worship money money and more money and yet you are still poor.You might be accepted by some members who are as LOST.BOTH shall lose neither don't believe nor are saved.

unreal christian
Australia
21 Jun 2017 19:16

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Need to set up a payment plan to repay what you owe sulja homes, it's time that subcontractors and consumers were heard.There's a lot of consumers 1st home buyers that have been hurt very badly.
and your in brisbane pretending nothings wrong.
How about a payment plan to organize.Believing in God is about speaking the truth and committing to pay back what belongs to others.

to unreal christian
USA
24 Jun 2017 20:11

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Don't hold your breath waiting to be paid back, these people are the most deceitful, disgusting people whom hide behind their religion and their followers where they're willing to lie and cheat to self serve themselves and their family. Being part of this faith helps many of the top players to syphon money through it, pay no taxes and pretending they're pillars of society. It would be wonderful if those in this faith and all that they know take their knowledge to authorities. For such a small following it's amazing how many of them are deceitful.

Moderator
Australia
25 Jun 2017 1:00

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There are some new comments:

http://www.productreview.com.au/qa/sulja-homes.html

court date
USA
25 Jun 2017 22:04

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Case No G13406651
Hearing Date/Time Wednesday, 5 July 2017 2:15 PM
Plaintiff Realestate.Com.Au Pty Ltd
Plaintiff Representative Not Represented
Defendant Sulja, Ondrej
Defendant Representative Not Represented
Hearing Type Reg Hearing
Matter Description Soe
Complaint Nature Services https://dailylists.magistratesvic.com.au/EFAS/CaseSearch

Moderator
Australia
26 Jun 2017 11:51

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Oh, yes.

https://dailylists.magistratesvic.com.au/EFAS/CaseCIV?CaseID=9678794




whats wrong??
Australia
26 Jun 2017 12:10

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what does that matter?

his elder takes other members to court....
and
allows others to take their spouses to court....
and
allows them to take prayers, attend baptisms.....so, why would anyone feel guilty about committing sin and transgressing Gods word and Gods will???

why is this a disturbing matter to anyone when everyone seems asleep and approving the elders sins????

please explain????
Australia
27 Jun 2017 13:29

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ondrej, whats going on? please explain?

please explain????
Australia
27 Jun 2017 13:38

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I just read Justin Ebbels letter.
At least ring the gentleman up and talk to him.Its so wrong to do things like this.

any relation
USA
27 Jun 2017 21:10

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oops try this
https://dailylists.magistratesvic.com.au/EFAS/CaseSearch

please explain????
Australia
28 Jun 2017 19:01

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ondrej sulja sends greetings on a regular bases at mt cottrell church.
he has full support there.

please explain????
Australia
28 Jun 2017 19:09

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Is ondrej working at the moment?
since the other builder gone broke also.

free money
Australia
22 Jul 2017 14:39

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Resources tell us that sulja homes owe over 4 million dollars, why did ondrej continue to take deposits.
Ondrej and paul are like milk and cookies….. very good buddies and supportive to one another, both have ripped off people with building business.sulja home 4 million dollars and classic homes would have exceeded 5 millon dollars….. you should all get your money back.


Holy Bible
Australia
22 Jul 2017 17:02

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2 Timothy 3:1-13King James Version (KJV)

3 This know also, that in the last days perilous times shall come.

2 For men shall be lovers of their own selves, covetous, boasters, proud, blasphemers, disobedient to parents, unthankful, unholy,

3 Without natural affection, trucebreakers, false accusers, incontinent, fierce, despisers of those that are good,

4 Traitors, heady, highminded, lovers of pleasures more than lovers of God;

5 Having a form of godliness, but denying the power thereof: from such turn away.

6 For of this sort are they which creep into houses, and lead captive silly women laden with sins, led away with divers lusts,

7 Ever learning, and never able to come to the knowledge of the truth.

investigator
Australia
5 Aug 2017 14:41

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Ondrej sulja at sulja homes was saying that the people stole money from the business ….. What is paul pentsa’s excuse in his business classic homes??
Their are other crooks in Marsden church who stole big time, and these guys in the building industry have also defrauded too and left people in ruins… the crooks all live in brisbane.


re: investigator
USA
5 Aug 2017 15:11

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THERE** LEARN TO USE THE CORRECT ONE FOR GODS SAKE.

investigator
Australia
5 Aug 2017 17:44

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tank-you

investigations'
Australia
5 Aug 2017 20:18

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wee all nid to go to skool to learn inglis

Crooks
Australia
5 Aug 2017 21:57

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Correction: the crooks are in Tarneit too! Same same... Tarneit and Marsden. Same quality Christians


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A B U S E R S  :  H A L L  O F  S H A M E 
Paul Pentsa
Brisbane
Janko Tomek
Melbourne
Andrew Szabo
Perth
Vlada Papuga
Melbourne
Philip Ruzeu
Melbourne
Nick Pentsa
Brisbane
Michael Stanjo
Melbourne
STAY AWAY FROM THIS MAN! His mouth is full of Biblical verses but his heart is filled with hatred, jealousy, treachery and lust for power. This FALSE CHRISTIAN is the root of almost all evil in ACCN in Australia and he will even take you to court, if he can't get his way.
Janko is pretty much like Paul, dishonest and unloving, just less intelligent. Janko is now building his humongous "warehouse" in Tarneit, destined to remain void of both faith and members. This UNREPENTED SINNER is still dreaming about becoming an elder!
Hard-hearted and egoistic, this long-time "elder" has caused immense grief, division and misery amongst the Nazarenes in Australia. Some even call him a sadist... not that Andrew really cares about anyone's opinion, though. Currently residing in a nursing home in Perth.
Earned his nickname by constantly repeating "Ljubazni" (Dear Ones) while preaching. This recently appointed "elder assistant" is ambitious, but at the same time not clever enough to realize he will always be just Paul's and Janko's messenger boy.
Philip is Paul Pentsa's son-in-law and definitely his best student. Proud, stubborn, arrogant - a classic bigot. Due to his off-putting personality and some weird beliefs, he's not on very good terms with Janko Tomek and other Slovaks in Tarneit.
Here is your future Elder, whether you like the idea or not. Nicky is "a very nice guy". No gift for preaching or leadership skills, but being Paul Pentsa's son, he's actually got everything he needs. Sooner or later his Dad will find the way to install him as his successor.
Janko Tomek's loyal admirer and bodyguard - sleazy, hypocritical, dishonest and ignorant. His interpretation of the Scriptures can make you laugh as well as his awkward sermons in broken English.


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