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ACCN Forum | COLUMBIA STATION SOLD!!

Nazarean
USA
7 Aug 2017 15:04

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So the long story came to an end today as Nazareans came to find out that the Stefans have sold the Columbia Station church to some kind of tractor company. No shame in stealing the money. That money is cursed and it will only be enjoyed by the Stefans until Judgment Day. Unless they repent. God be merciful to their souls. It does you no good that you go to "Doroslovac" church now. Their rules will not save you. God is not mocked.

this is very clear
Australia
7 Aug 2017 20:19

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1 Kings 21:

1 Kings 21

Naboth’s Vineyard
21 Some time later there was an incident involving a vineyard belonging to Naboth the Jezreelite. The vineyard was in Jezreel, close to the palace of Ahab king of Samaria. 2 Ahab said to Naboth, “Let me have your vineyard to use for a vegetable garden, since it is close to my palace. In exchange I will give you a better vineyard or, if you prefer, I will pay you whatever it is worth.”

3 But Naboth replied, “The Lord forbid that I should give you the inheritance of my ancestors.”

4 So Ahab went home, sullen and angry because Naboth the Jezreelite had said, “I will not give you the inheritance of my ancestors.” He lay on his bed sulking and refused to eat.

5 His wife Jezebel came in and asked him, “Why are you so sullen? Why won’t you eat?”

6 He answered her, “Because I said to Naboth the Jezreelite, ‘Sell me your vineyard; or if you prefer, I will give you another vineyard in its place.’ But he said, ‘I will not give you my vineyard.’”

7 Jezebel his wife said, “Is this how you act as king over Israel? Get up and eat! Cheer up. I’ll get you the vineyard of Naboth the Jezreelite.”

8 So she wrote letters in Ahab’s name, placed his seal on them, and sent them to the elders and nobles who lived in Naboth’s city with him. 9 In those letters she wrote:

“Proclaim a day of fasting and seat Naboth in a prominent place among the people. 10 But seat two scoundrels opposite him and have them bring charges that he has cursed both God and the king. Then take him out and stone him to death.”

11 So the elders and nobles who lived in Naboth’s city did as Jezebel directed in the letters she had written to them. 12 They proclaimed a fast and seated Naboth in a prominent place among the people. 13 Then two scoundrels came and sat opposite him and brought charges against Naboth before the people, saying, “Naboth has cursed both God and the king.” So they took him outside the city and stoned him to death. 14 Then they sent word to Jezebel: “Naboth has been stoned to death.”

15 As soon as Jezebel heard that Naboth had been stoned to death, she said to Ahab, “Get up and take possession of the vineyard of Naboth the Jezreelite that he refused to sell you. He is no longer alive, but dead.” 16 When Ahab heard that Naboth was dead, he got up and went down to take possession of Naboth’s vineyard.

17 Then the word of the Lord came to Elijah the Tishbite: 18 “Go down to meet Ahab king of Israel, who rules in Samaria. He is now in Naboth’s vineyard, where he has gone to take possession of it. 19 Say to him, ‘This is what the Lord says: Have you not murdered a man and seized his property?’ Then say to him, ‘This is what the Lord says: In the place where dogs licked up Naboth’s blood, dogs will lick up your blood—yes, yours!’”

20 Ahab said to Elijah, “So you have found me, my enemy!”

“I have found you,” he answered, “because you have sold yourself to do evil in the eyes of the Lord.


very serious
Australia
7 Aug 2017 22:58

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1 Corinthians 3:17

If any man defile the temple of God, him shall God destroy; for the temple of God is holy, which temple ye are.

Sad
USA
8 Aug 2017 0:01

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This is so sad. So, so sad. Stealing a church and selling it for your own gain...how can they think God will forgive such a heinous sin?

Bless
Australia
8 Aug 2017 2:47

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God bless the person who has pointed out the book of 1 Kings. Isn't it interesting how Jezebel & Ahab were So sure of themselves.
It doesn't end very nicely for them.



Very sad
USA
8 Aug 2017 10:13

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Well, I know what they will say: We will donate ALL the money to charity. You know what, even if they do, so what? You think God will look positively on that? You can't steal from one person to give to another. God will look with disgust on that. I guarentee that these thieves will say "we gave it away" in order to justify themselves.

You see, they look at it like this: The people there were not worshipping "properly." In order to make God happy, we will take away their place of worship so they cannot worship improperly anymore and now God will reward us for that. VERY twisted minds.

Moderator
Australia
8 Aug 2017 10:28

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On the top of that, they will say "It was God's will to sell the church".

Any recent photos of the church building? Please send them to: accnaustralia@gmail.com

Twisted minds
USA
8 Aug 2017 10:35

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Abusing innocent children by calling them dumb and retarded in Sunday school, abusing older widows, pregnant woman and small children by denying them heat and hot water during the heart of winter and turning off the water so the they could not use the toilets nor wash their hands in hot water and telling the fatherless and the nonmember children that they could not attend church with their parents is what… Christ like?????

Again
United Kingdom
8 Aug 2017 19:20

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These people aren't Nazarene's more so, nor are they Christians. These elected Elders know nothing about Christianity, how many have studied Theology or any other form of religion.
Just because you read the Bible doesn't make you a man of the Bible.



Judah’s Supporter
Australia
8 Aug 2017 19:58

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Dear "Very Sad":
Where do you get off saying that the remaining members, widows and children were not worshiping God "properly", who appointed you judge?
Your comment is filthy and disgraceful and you should ashamed for judging widows, children and the other members!
Let’s ALSO get clarity “Very Sad”, just because you believe that someone is not “worshiping” the Lord correctly, that doesn’t give you permission to lock the doors, kick the children, widows and members out and sell the church for your own profit and glory! Disgusting and disgraceful – You are a supporter the Judah’s that stole the church!!
The profit of the sale went to the thieves’ legal fees and their pockets… justifying donating a stolen church’s money is Judah’s money… A PURE curse and PURE ACCN corruption!!!!!!

May God bless all remaining believers and the dear widows who fought to save the church to the end! May the Lord God bless you, your efforts and may He restore your broken spirits. God is just and God is good.


Trust in the Lord
Australia
8 Aug 2017 20:01

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Just when your “enemy” seems to have the upper hand, place your trust in God and realise that the day set for your destruction may actually be the day of your deliverance.

Moderator
Australia
8 Aug 2017 20:03

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I think you misunderstood "Very sad".


Judah’s Supporter
Australia
8 Aug 2017 20:07

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I did, my apologies.

To "Very Sad" please forgive me, and yes that would be a justification on their part!


To ANYONE who supports the elders and the Judah's ... you are disgusting and disgraceful and my comment goes to you!!

A place called Hell
United Kingdom
8 Aug 2017 20:34

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there's a special place for these people, here on Earth it's called Prison and in the afterlife it's called Hell.
To Judah"s Supporter, I can clearly see you passion/compassion; you are forgiven.

Moderator
Australia
9 Aug 2017 20:43

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Hi, I wasn't able to post on the forum, and error popped up saying improper content. Can you please post this comment under Columbia Station sold? Thank you.

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Thank the Lord and you for your comments UK, my heart truly goes out to lashing at “Very Sad”, it was a knee-j.erk reaction as for the past years of hearing and reading about the Columbia Station theft, there were “many” comments made persecuting the remaining members who fought to prevent the sale of the church.

Anyone reading this, if you contributed to persecuting the remaining members of Columbia Station, here are some key points for you to consider:

1. Those remaining members made it “public” and confessed before the law of Ohio in their deposition that they were wrong and were sorry for the original split of the first group who left Columbia Station. With that being said, after reading the comments made on this site, some took judgement and made it a point to express that their apology and repentance wasn’t “good” enough. My heart is warmed by the humility of the brethren who confessed that they were wrong.

2. For those of you who were hurt by the original split, I understand your hurt, but I cannot relate to your silence in the matter of the church being stolen, and “possibly” in the lack of forgiveness to those who confessed that they were wrong.

To the Stefan’s you are Judah's, you took a church that wasn’t yours, you also humiliated and bullied children in Sunday school by calling them names, you called them stupid. Jesus said, “suffer not the little children to come to me”, the Lord is just and He saw everything.

To the elders who supported and participated with the Judah’s, you are dirty for helping the Stefan’s kick children and widows out of church and to help steal a building that dedicated to the service of the Lord- shame on you all!

Moderator
Australia
9 Aug 2017 20:48

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This forum prevents the use of certain rude words, like "j.erk" (without the dot). "Knee-j.erk" is not rude, of course, but the computer does not know that :)

Sad
USA
10 Aug 2017 0:23

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Is this true what people are saying that they bullied kids in Sunday school in Columbia Station ??

Need answers
Australia
10 Aug 2017 0:53

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What is it with all the sales/thefts of churches? I don't get it.
How is a person or group of persons able to steal a church? Are they a group that conspires together? Or are they just individuals? Can someone please explain how they are enabled to get away with it? Shouldn't the police be alerted?

Sunday School Bully
Australia
10 Aug 2017 2:26

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Yup, just ask Dorel Stefan, the man who appointed himself "the" Sunday school teacher. He called the children names and told them that they are stupid. One little boy refused to go to Sunday school and sat by his mother for several weeks straight, he was too embarrassed to share what was happening. Dorel, you are a sick man! Children are innocent, sensitive and beautiful – You are disgusting!!!

Inhumane
Australia
10 Aug 2017 2:30

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Let’s not forget shutting off the water and gas in the cold of winter, while there was a pregnant woman, children, and widows.
The elder committee you people have a lot to answer for!


Re:SundaySchoolBully
USA
10 Aug 2017 3:21

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Wow, is that true?

Who the hell is this Dorel character that allows himself to act this way?
No wonder these churches are shrinking...
I guess it's only a matter of time before people start putting up PayPal account numbers and offer a quick smack in the face for a $100 bucks.
I can already see it: some local guy knows where these people are (like Pp Jr and offer the Aussies to go by and introduce him to a fist for every 1000 dollars he took them for lol for a quick $100 PayPal payment hahahaha)

Just kidding
USA
10 Aug 2017 3:25

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Relax.. Just kidding I don't advocate for violence.

Sunday School Bully
Australia
10 Aug 2017 3:47

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Yup, child abuse in church!

lol to your comment! It's scary, but it could happen.. The Lord test our emotions "all" the time and a lot of people got screwed over!

abuse
USA
12 Aug 2017 12:05

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To the Elders, Minsters and anyone else who signed the paper work for the judge to side with the Stephans: this was flat out theft.

When you look and you see people abusing other people and you say, "oh well, I can’t send this person to jail because I have to love them" that means you’re not loving the person who is being abused. You knew these members were being abused: the widows, children, mothers, pregnant women and other members and you didn’t do anything… that is abuse through neglect.

Love is not just for the one person, it’s for all people. You isolated the people who were being abused and you continued the abuse that the Stephans started.

very serious
Australia
12 Aug 2017 17:53

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Kindly Read

St.John 16:1-3

1.These things have I spoken unto you, that ye should not be offended.

2.They shall put you out of the synagogues: yea, the time cometh, that whosoever killeth you will think that he doeth God service.

3.And these things will they do unto you, because they have not known the Father, nor me.

Is it interesting how its noted that those ....think that he does God service.....

MANY think they are doing Godly deeds.....

Sunday School Bully
Australia
12 Aug 2017 23:29

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I'd like to clarify that I wasn't laughing at Pauli’s misfortune; I hope that Pauli finds refuge in repentance, letting go of pride and seeking God's forgiveness, love and direction during his hard times. It is a blessing to be abased by the Lord.

To: David
Australia
12 Aug 2017 23:41

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Martin Luther King Jr. knew that he was going to die before he made his last speech fighting for black rights. David Nicholson, you are a racist who attempted to mess with people's livelihoods because of the color of their skin.
You are greedy, along with the Steffen’s and your elder committee friends. You now have Judah’s money on your hands, in addition to the money, you have the sins of offending widows, bullying children and persecuting members for sake of your own gain!
That building was dedicated to the service the Lord, NOT your pockets!



To: Peter Stephan
USA
15 Aug 2017 9:26

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Brother Jon P was a loving brother and he worked hard to donate money and his time for God’s house--in fact, it was YOU Peter Stephan who told him to keep donating because he is donating to the Lord when he was actually giving money to you... but like so many people who thought they were donating money to God’s house, this was just you taking their savings.

To: Dorel Stephan

16 Aug 2017 9:05

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It’s no wonder children refused to sit in Sunday school while you taught the class... small children know who love them.

thieves
Australia
19 Aug 2017 6:30

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I guess they’ll take stolen money to their graves, and that includes the corrupt elders and the brethren who stood and standby David Nicholson and the Stefans’ corrupt plan to earn money that wasn’t there’s. Justify all you want, you’re all thieves!

Deuteronomy 24:7
Australia
19 Aug 2017 6:33

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If a man be found stealing any of his brethren of the children of Israel, and maketh merchandise of him, or selleth him; then that thief shall die; and thou shalt put evil away from among you.

You will give answer
Australia
19 Aug 2017 6:42

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You may not fear now, but there will come a time when all of you who partook in stealing and selling the house of the Lord will give answer.

The Lord instructs to visit the widows and to the love the children, you however did worse than the opposite of that, you locked the doors of Christ, you sold His house and you punished and persecuted the widows, little children and the children of God.



dangerous but true!!
Australia
19 Aug 2017 15:42

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Matthew 23:13

But woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! for ye shut up the kingdom of heaven against men: for ye neither go in yourselves, neither suffer ye them that are entering to go in.

Isaiah 66:5

Hear the word of the Lord, ye that tremble at his word; Your brethren that hated you, that cast you out for my name's sake, said, Let the Lord be glorified: but he shall appear to your joy, and they shall be ashamed.



Excuse
USA
20 Aug 2017 0:58

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I can hear them now: "But we're going to give all the money to the poor!"

Wow...
Australia
20 Aug 2017 19:12

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This describes the situation quite clearly; thank the Lord and you for posting:

"But woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! for ye shut up the kingdom of heaven against men: for ye neither go in yourselves, neither suffer ye them that are entering to go in."

very clear
Australia
20 Aug 2017 22:10

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yes, very clear....


Titus 1:15

Unto the pure all things are pure: but unto them that are defiled and unbelieving is nothing pure; but even their mind and conscience is defiled.

Another one!
Australia
21 Aug 2017 15:13

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Wow, the reference to Titus 1:15 is unbelievable!

People don't realize the power of God's word; in His word we find wisdom of life and death.

To wrong the Lord and those who love Him is very, very scary - it's not a simple asking of forgiveness, but deep repentance, painful repentance, and that is if God will have mercy to allow that sinner to fully repent, because as Titus 1:15 says "but even their mind and conscience is defiled" ... there is ONLY one way way the God's kingdom and peace in one's life on this earth, and that is through the Lord God Almighty.

To: Excuse
Australia
21 Aug 2017 15:23

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They're paying their legal fees first; of course they wouldn't return the house of the Lord and lose their own house, because it is better for the brethren to be on the street then them!

First they took money from the house of God and paid for take over of the church and title through their lawyers, then they kicked the members out, abuse them, and so much more...

To David Nicholson and the Stefan's, you are all hypocrites and evil, evil people! Your greed and lust for money and hatred did you more harm than you could 'ever' imagine. I look forward to see the Lord's vengeance on you. You will pay for your evil work and this is 'not' a curse... you cursed yourselves along with all those who partook in your sins of theft, hatred and persecution of the innocent. I wonder what your response will be to the Lord when He asks what you did with the widows and the little children?


love or hatred
Australia
21 Aug 2017 16:45

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what is love and what is hatred??


1 John 3:15
Whosoever hateth his brother is a murderer: and ye know that no murderer hath eternal life abiding in him.

1 John 4:20
If a man say, I love God, and hateth his brother, he is a liar: for he that loveth not his brother whom he hath seen, how can he love God whom he hath not seen?

Romans 13:10
Love worketh no ill to his neighbour: therefore love is the fulfilling of the law.


continuation....
Australia
21 Aug 2017 16:49

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check these out....

Romans 1: 28-29

28 And even as they did not like to retain God in their knowledge, God gave them over to a reprobate mind, to do those things which are not convenient;

29 Being filled with all unrighteousness, fornication, wickedness, covetousness, maliciousness; full of envy, murder, debate, deceit, malignity; whisperers,

NOTE: in verse 29 it covers "covetousness" and "murder" as hatred is in line with murder.

What is...
Australia
21 Aug 2017 20:44

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What is a "reprobate" mind?

meaning....
Australia
21 Aug 2017 21:20

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more then one meaning:

1. to condemn strongly as unworthy, unacceptable, or evil reprobating the laxity of the age

2. to foreordain to damnation

3. to refuse to accept : reject

similar reference to:

2 Thess.2:3-11

3 Let no man deceive you by any means: for that day shall not come, except there come a falling away first, and that man of sin be revealed, the son of perdition;

4 Who opposeth and exalteth himself above all that is called God, or that is worshipped; so that he as God sitteth in the temple of God, shewing himself that he is God.

5 Remember ye not, that, when I was yet with you, I told you these things?

6 And now ye know what withholdeth that he might be revealed in his time.

7 For the mystery of iniquity doth already work: only he who now letteth will let, until he be taken out of the way.

8 And then shall that Wicked be revealed, whom the Lord shall consume with the spirit of his mouth, and shall destroy with the brightness of his coming:

9 Even him, whose coming is after the working of Satan with all power and signs and lying wonders,

10 And with all deceivableness of unrighteousness in them that perish; because they received not the love of the truth, that they might be saved.

11 And for this cause God shall send them strong delusion, that they should believe a lie:

12 That they all might be damned who believed not the truth, but had pleasure in unrighteousness.




Trust in God

22 Aug 2017 4:46

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Deuteronomy 32:35
To me belongeth vengeance, and recompence; their foot shall slide in due time: for the day of their calamity is at hand, and the things that shall come upon them make haste.

God's word is alive, there is much strength in reading the scriptures posted. Thank the Lord and you.

This
Australia
22 Aug 2017 17:48

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The phrase “reprobate mind” is found in Romans 1:28 in reference to those whom God has rejected as godless and wicked. They “suppress the truth by their wickedness,” and it is upon these people that the wrath of God rests (Romans 1:18). The Greek word translated “reprobate” in the New Testament is adokimos, which means literally “unapproved, that is, rejected; by implication, worthless (literally or morally).”

Paul describes two men named Jannes and Jambres as those who “resist the truth: men of corrupt minds, reprobate concerning the faith" (2 Timothy 3:8). Here the reprobation is regarding the resistance to the truth because of corrupt minds. In Titus, Paul also refers to those whose works are reprobate: “They profess that they know God; but in works they deny him, being abominable, and disobedient, and unto every good work reprobate” (Titus 1:16). Therefore, the reprobate mind is one that is corrupt and worthless.

As we can see in the verses above, people who are classified as having a reprobate mind have some knowledge of God and perhaps know of His commandments. However, they live impure lives and have very little desire to please God. Those who have reprobate minds live corrupt and selfish lives. Sin is justified and acceptable to them. The reprobates are those whom God has rejected and has left to their own devices.

Can a Christian have a reprobate mind? Someone who has sincerely accepted Jesus Christ by faith will not have this mindset because the old person with a reprobate mind has been recreated into a new creation: “The old has passed away; behold, the new has come” (2 Corinthians 5:17). Christians are basically “new” people. We live differently and speak differently. Our world is centered on our Lord and Savior, Jesus Christ, and how we can serve Him. Also, if we are truly in the faith, we will have the Holy Spirit to help us live a God-honoring life (John 14:26). Those with reprobate minds do not have the Spirit and live only for themselves.



Repenance
Australia
26 Aug 2017 14:35

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The bible verses referenced are “very, very” powerful, and I think people think that they can sin and ask for forgiveness and that’s the end of it.
They expect the person that they have offended or have caused sin to just forgive them; or in my case, one of my past offenders tried to manipulate me by saying if I didn’t forgive him, that God wouldn’t forgive me… only if it was that easy.
I know now that asking someone to forgive you is one thing, but truly repenting, crying and begging God and that person to forgive you is another thing.

To those who stole Columbia Station, and the members in West Akron who supported and helped David and the Steffan’s, it will NEVER be a simple “please forgive me” … You “all” need to learn what the meaning of sorry, sorrow for your sins are and what repentance really means.


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Vlada Papuga
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Philip Ruzeu
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Michael Stanjo
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STAY AWAY FROM THIS MAN! His mouth is full of Biblical verses but his heart is filled with hatred, jealousy, treachery and lust for power. This FALSE CHRISTIAN is the root of almost all evil in ACCN in Australia and he will even take you to court, if he can't get his way.
Janko is pretty much like Paul, dishonest and unloving, just less intelligent. Janko is now building his humongous "warehouse" in Tarneit, destined to remain void of both faith and members. This UNREPENTED SINNER is still dreaming about becoming an elder!
Hard-hearted and egoistic, this long-time "elder" has caused immense grief, division and misery amongst the Nazarenes in Australia. Some even call him a sadist... not that Andrew really cares about anyone's opinion, though. Currently residing in a nursing home in Perth.
Earned his nickname by constantly repeating "Ljubazni" (Dear Ones) while preaching. This recently appointed "elder assistant" is ambitious, but at the same time not clever enough to realize he will always be just Paul's and Janko's messenger boy.
Philip is Paul Pentsa's son-in-law and definitely his best student. Proud, stubborn, arrogant - a classic bigot. Due to his off-putting personality and some weird beliefs, he's not on very good terms with Janko Tomek and other Slovaks in Tarneit.
Here is your future Elder, whether you like the idea or not. Nicky is "a very nice guy". No gift for preaching or leadership skills, but being Paul Pentsa's son, he's actually got everything he needs. Sooner or later his Dad will find the way to install him as his successor.
Janko Tomek's loyal admirer and bodyguard - sleazy, hypocritical, dishonest and ignorant. His interpretation of the Scriptures can make you laugh as well as his awkward sermons in broken English.


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