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ACCN Forum | Classic Homes (QLD) Pty Ltd - 3

Moderator
Australia
11 Oct 2017 9:30

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...This thread is a continuation of:

Classic Homes (QLD) Pty Ltd - 2
http://www.accn-australia.com/Page1.php?topic/1843/classic-homes-qld-pty-ltd-2

...and:

Classic Homes (QLD) Pty Ltd - 1
http://www.accn-australia.com/Page1.php?topic/1662/classic-homes-qld-pty-ltd-1

Here are some news.

Paul Pentsa Snr. (the father) is arriving to Brisbane with his wife on Friday. Wish him a warm welcome, maybe he's bringing you some money, eh?

There will be a baptism in Melbourne on 21 & 22 October. Paul Pentsa Snr. is expected to be present and perform the baptism:

http://www.accn-australia.com/Page1.php?topic/1892/baptism-in-melbourne-21-22-october

Paul Pentsa Jr. as of now is living with his in-laws the Oldja's in Orange County, San Diego, California. His wife and kids visit the Vista church every Sunday, though he is sometimes not there.



Greetings from San Diego.

apologies

11 Oct 2017 17:11

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paul pentsa junior wrote his letter of apology.
Should'nt that be the end of it, we now need a reason and apology from sulja homes as why he went bust and did a runner to brisbane.


Not enough
Australia
11 Oct 2017 22:07

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No, it is not enough. We all need to take responsibility for our actions. We need to repent to God and man and make restitution and paul pentsa junior needs to do the same. He needs to pay back all the money he owes everyone. In the above comment you say sulja homes did a runner to Brisbane. Well, paul pentsa junior did a runner to USA with other people's money. There was no reason in his letter why he just decided to close the company or run off just like that. Can we all do anything we want, and just put a blanket over it and write a letter of apology and say that's it and that's the end of it? No. He must make the wrong right before God and man. Restitution is part of repentance.

Moderator
Australia
11 Oct 2017 22:19

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It seems you are talking about this statement:

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10 Aug 2017 11:35 by ClassicHomes, USA

Dear website Moderator,
Please inform all your readers and tradies/suppliers of the following!

I Paul Pentsa Jnr. Would like to state the following!
I alone am responsible for the company Classic Homes, as I am sole Director, and no other member of my family including my father have anything to do with the company.
I am deeply saddened by what has happened, as you know, that Classic Homes is no longer operating!
I am working with administrator through my lawyer, to complete construction of spec homes and have them sold in order to repay all suppliers and tradies.
I want to assure all that my family including my father have nothing to do with Classic Homes, their only involvement was in lending large sums of monies to Classic Homes to help pay for past debts incurred by Classic Homes, to help keep it trading and afloat all past year. They also are owed monies, and have not been paid back their loaned money by the Company. They are in the same situation as others! Yet they have been targeted and treathened with death threats and other cruel and illegal actions against them have been made. Which they did not deserve, as they did nothing wrong!

As for myself, I have not taken any money from Classic Homes, and have not taken any wages for the last years, just to help keep the company going.
As there are a few million dollars worth in properties to be completed and sold, so as to pay all outstanding debts, I ask all to be patient, and allow these projects to be completed!

I am truly sorry for all these hardships caused by Classic Homes, and I am doing my utmost to make all repayments to all concerned ASAP.

I trust that you will understand!

With saddened heart,
Paul James Pentsa (Classic Homes)

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The message, whoever wrote it, arrived from Monument, Colorado, not from California. It was sent from mobile phone Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge. Please note that this website cannot verify nor confirm the authenticity of this message.

And?
Australia
12 Oct 2017 8:43

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And? Is paul pentsa junior going to keep his word and pay everyone back? We will see as only time will tell, or is he only talking and lying and try to make people feel better? To the person who wrote "apologies", obviously you are not one of the people paul pentsa junior has stolen money from, or you wouldn't ask such a ridiculous question if a letter is enough. You obviously are not a victim of his theft. Your life has not been ruined by him as many lives are. This letter still doesn't give a reason why he closed his company. As facts are heard, he didn't go bust, he closed it down himself. We will see if he pays everyone back.

Beware
Australia
12 Oct 2017 8:54

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I Timothy 6: 9 & 10 says: "But they that will be rich fall into temptation and a snare, and into many foolish and hurtful lusts, which drown men in destruction and perdition. For the love of money is the root of all evil: which while some coveted after, they have erred from the faith, and pierced themselves through with many sorrows". KJV

Moderator
Australia
31 Oct 2017 13:55

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https://insolvencynotices.asic.gov.au/browsesearch-notices/notice-details/Classic-Homes-QLD-Pty-Ltd-601922749/3ca5a38f-bf3b-4052-9d78-ca0743814837

Victim
Australia
3 Nov 2017 8:46

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Has anyone heard the latest from liquidation?



Moderator
Australia
3 Nov 2017 10:57

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Do you have any news to share?

Victim
Australia
3 Nov 2017 11:32

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I called the liquidator, but a bleak outlook on the money part. Wondering if anyone else can share some light or news?

Moderator
Australia
3 Nov 2017 11:44

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Well, why don't you ask Paul Pentsa Snr. now that you have him in QLD..?

Get the news "straight from the horse's mouth", as he would say.

Oh wait, you are a little afraid to ask him?

Or he wouldn't tell you anyway?

Good old PP.

Victim
Australia
3 Nov 2017 16:02

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Not afraid. I plan to when I have the opportunity, but I doubt if he will tell what is going on. Have a feeling the story will be "smoothed over" from him.

Moderator
Australia
3 Nov 2017 16:25

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Good luck then, and let us know what he said :)

Oh yes, just don't mention the website. When PP was in Akron, he told people there that this website is all made of lies and the moderator is a "mad man".

PP
USA
4 Nov 2017 0:05

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He performed baptismal work in Akron too.

Moderator
Australia
4 Nov 2017 0:14

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That just shows how hopeless the ACCN church has become.

And that is why this website will never go away.

Matthew 5:24
USA
4 Nov 2017 6:38

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What’s really interesting is if the ACCN leaders did what the Bible teaches – none of this would happen.

Victim
Australia
7 Nov 2017 10:07

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There are too many things going on in the church that people are getting by with and things not being dealt with. Why? Is it that there are two standards? One for the elder's families and friends, and one for the others? Or are the elders just too scared to deal with things because they may have too much opposition from the people who are doing these thing? What's wrong? I agree with the above statement from Matthew 5:24 that if the leaders did what they were suppose to and what the Bible teaches, none of this would get this far. It looks like the truth from the true church is gone.

???

13 Nov 2017 8:26

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There is talk that Paul Pentsa Sr. withdrew quite a lot of money from Paul Pentsa Jr. business account prior to moving to the USA. This doesn’t seem legal since Paul Pentsa Jr. customers lost lots of money due to the company going under. Why did Paul Pentsa Sr. come out of this okay, while others lost lots of money?

re: ???
USA
13 Nov 2017 14:35

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PP snr. came out okay because he probably had his own money to begin with. He withdrew that money probably for PPjnr, so he can live a nice live between countries, while he is on the run. As we all know, he a criminal, a criminal that is a "christian"....Wonder if the church will ever catch up to him and put him under discipline or expel him? He obviously forgot about the golden rule "thou shall not steal.." He kept the covers on his wife, there were talks that she didn't know anything about the situation too. So, personally, I'd divorce if my man did that, kick him in the balls a few times, make sure he cant reproduce... If thats not possible, practice safe sex Esther, make sure you buy a stack of condoms, and take birth control pills.

newby
Australia
14 Dec 2017 9:05

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Paul Pentsa Senior is in Australia, he has made contact with some trades that worked for classic and is wanting to do improvements to some properties that Classic built for him in a view to sell them.


Moderator
Australia
14 Dec 2017 9:38

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See? That's PP as we know him. His son owes huge sums to many church people in Marsden, and whenever they ask PP Snr about it he plays dumb, like, what do you want, it was my son's business, I had nothing to do with it.

But it really puts a smile on my face when I hear that some of his long-time supporters and adorers lost their money too :)

to: re:???
Australia
14 Dec 2017 21:56

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re.

Wonder if the church will ever catch up to him and put him under discipline or expel him?....

the ACCN church, american elders, and elder body have REMOVED elder paul pentsa from being an elder, back in 2003 at the La Puente elder meeting conference....etc

so, yes, paul pentsa has be REMOVED from being an elder, its just he hasnt accepted that, and thinks he will get away from it.

paul pentsa will be accountable for his rebellion....

1 Sam.15:23

For rebellion is as the sin of witchcraft,
And stubbornness is as iniquity and idolatry.
Because you have rejected the word of the Lord,
He also has rejected you from being king.”

he forgets time and time again the verse in the bible that refers to him:

1 Corinth.11:27

So then, whoever eats the bread or drinks the cup of the Lord in an unworthy manner will be guilty of sinning against the body and blood of the Lord...






What's going on
France
20 Feb 2018 14:38

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Any news of what's going on with Classic Homes, have houses continues to be built or homes that had been started prior to receivership finished being built? Have the trades people been paid? Have the Pentsa'sbeen arrested? Extradited?

Moderator
Australia
20 Feb 2018 14:42

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You're dreaming. Last thing I heard was that PP Snr. preached in Vista church.

committing evil
Australia
21 Feb 2018 5:17

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why do people think they can get away from committing evil???????

Ecc.8:11

Whenever a sentence for a crime is not carried out swiftly, the human mind becomes determined to commit evil.

important note

21 Feb 2018 5:25

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re.
You're dreaming. Last thing I heard was that PP Snr. preached in Vista church.

This is clear, that the ACCN North American Elders "ARE" blind.

They "STILL" cannot see the actions and splinter groups of removed Elder Paul Pentsa. They still offer him to preach?

The North American Elders removed him from being an Elder, and yet they "STILL" continue accepting his presence as a free member and a free Elder................


Blind means:
1. unable to see; lacking the sense of sight; sightless:
2.unwilling or unable to perceive or understand:

Delusion means:
1.something a person believes and wants to be true, when it is actually not true:

2 Thessalonians 2:11
11 And for this cause God sendeth them a working of error, that they should believe a lie:

Moderator
Australia
25 Feb 2018 17:49

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>>This is clear, that the ACCN North American Elders "ARE" blind.

They are not blind or stupid, they are simply the same breed like PP.

Accn leaders
USA
26 Feb 2018 15:27

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you not only protect criminals you also reward them! I would hate to be you!

simple answer
Australia
26 Feb 2018 20:17

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Isaiah 9:16

For those who guide this people are leading them astray; And those who are guided by them are brought to confusion.

PP breed
USA
27 Feb 2018 5:42

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The ACCN leadership feels like a Masonic fraternity brotherhood
They stick together no matter what!

Let's see
USA
27 Feb 2018 6:05

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Let's see if the leadership will have pp Jr arrested -or reported at least- for all the wrongdoing...

Let's see: is the Nikolson guy arrested yet- in California? If you do a search on church embezzlement cases, they all say the person was arrested. So is this guy being protected? Someone should kick his butt if he even dares showing up to church....



27 Feb 2018 10:15

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>>If you do a search on church embezzlement cases, they all say the person was arrested.

Can you give us a link to that?

Re: Moderator
USA
27 Feb 2018 15:27

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Embezzlement cases - as in all other cases around the US would say the perp was arrested.... So has this Nikolson been arrested yet or is the accn protecting him from the law?

Leadership
USA
1 Mar 2018 2:10

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Why is it a sin to call the police or to get the law involved in church corruption, but it's OK to register your churches and to place bylaws is not this part of worldly government?

not religion
Australia
1 Mar 2018 17:56

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If it's a sin to call the Police or get the law involved in church corruption then how do you call this Christianity. Corruption generally will affect other people, so in this 'church' this doctrine it's accepted.
Nazarene's are you that brainwashed that you can't see it's wrong.
Don't even bother cutting and pasting a bible saying, and trying to allow this nonsense, you're all enablers and a prayer isn't going to fix anything.



to: not religion
Australia
2 Mar 2018 0:41

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its called false christianity.

true christianity is something different.

to: leadership

2 Mar 2018 9:53

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thats exactly right.

what has the government got to do with christiananity, let alone trying to influence, decide or recognise the church.

Pathetic

2 Mar 2018 10:58

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If Christians don't abide by the law, we are allowed to call the police and any other authorities if needed. The reason members in the church need to get the outside authorities involved is because the leadership does nothing and let's everyone do whatever they want and get by with it. The Bible says is there none wise enough in the church to handle these things? The answer is no, there is none wise enough in the church to deal with these matters, no matter what the crime is, and that is why we have no choice but to go to the outside authorities to handle these things. The Bible also says that we are to obey the law of the land, and Christians are not exempt. So why if a Christian commits a crime, he/she should not be accountable to the law? It is only to bring them to repentance and make restitution so the soul can be saved, not condemned. Let it be known to the leadership, in case they forgot, that these things are not only crimes, they are sins, and the leadership don't even deal with the sin, let alone the crime. This is really pathetic for the leadership. I am getting the feeling lately that anyone can do anything, and nobody will do anything about it.....sin/crime, do what you want and you won't be dealt with by the leadership. why? Perhaps the answer is that they themselves may have sin/crime in their lives and that is why they condone it. If the leadership were spiritual and true Christians, they would deal with sin/crime in the church and not let it go further.

Pathetic
Australia
2 Mar 2018 11:03

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Romans 13:1 and 2 says: "Let every person be in subjection to the governing authorities. For there is no authority except from God, and those which exist are established by God. Therefore he who resists authority has opposed the ordinance of God; and they who have opposed, will receive condemnation upon themselves"

Has this been removed from the Bible?

WAKE UP!
USA
2 Mar 2018 12:23

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I wonder why the committee who call themselves ‘Spiritual Leaders’ sided with criminals who stole a church and the charity funds from the churches bank account. What kind of people are these leaders and what reward do they expect from God for this work.

Response
USA
2 Mar 2018 14:24

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To: Pathetic. You are 100% spot on what you said about the elders not doing anything so they dont get exposed. Who knows what skeletons are hiding in their closets so that's why they let everything slip by. Come on, even the world wouldnt let some if the things slip by that the elders KNOW about (and are even called into meetings about) and still look the other way. Its disgusting. And they would never go against their own. The ACC would not be where it is today if all of the elders were not rotten.

Sorry is not enough!
USA
4 Mar 2018 12:51

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I guess in this ‘ACCN’ faith you can steel like Joe Nikolson a substantial amount that should serve you 6 years in jail, you can steal a church and kick people out like the Stephan’s and David Nikolson did and just say sorry you are forgiven.

David Nikolson should join the Stephan’s and Monica Russel in opening a new church or better yet serving in the Columbia station church building since Monica Russel was David Nichols legal representative in the court hearing for Columbia Station.

Why do the elders pretend that they are not a part of the Stephan’s crime when they joined the Stephan’s? Therefore they said with their actions that it was okay to abuse children, older people and members of church.



new church?
Australia
5 Mar 2018 12:06

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so, is Columbia Station church open again?

is it to the recognized members of the Stefans only available in?

Ecc 3 16
USA
6 Mar 2018 4:42

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And I saw something under the sun: In the place of judgement- wickedness was there, in the place of justice- wickedness was there.

Isaiah 59
Australia
6 Mar 2018 21:34

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14.
Justice is driven away, and right cannot come near. Truth stumbles in the public square, and honesty finds no place there.

15.
There is so little honesty that those who stop doing evil find themselves the victims of crime.” The LORD has seen this, and he is displeased that there is no justice.

16.
He is astonished to see that there is no one to help the oppressed. So he will use his own power to rescue them and to win the victory.

find Paul Pentsa
Australia
9 Apr 2018 22:53

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church address where Paul Pentsa is attending is:

1275 Old Ranch Rd
Colorado Springs
CO 80921
PH: 719-532-1284

service times are:

Sunday 10am & 3pm
Thursday 7.30pm

Anyone willing to contact him, can see him at this church address at these times.

Moderator
Australia
11 Apr 2018 14:21

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Too far to travel :)

possibility?

11 Apr 2018 18:29

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i thought there were afew tradesmen, companies, and private house owners, the ATO, QBCC, the building insurance companies...etc....looking for him, so they could meet up with him at least for a chat, coffee or free church lunch perhaps, and give him time to explain himself.

Concerned
Australia
14 Apr 2018 22:31

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To the person who wrote "find Paul Pentsa", I am assuming you are talking about Paul Jr.?
What do you mean give him time to explain himself? He has had almost 10 months to explain himself to the people in Australia (both in church and through work) since he left the country last June, and no word from him at all to anyone he owes money to. Not one word in 10 months. Explain himself? Let him come back to Australia and explain himself face to face with the people he owes money to and stole from. I would like to see that day. Don't try to justify him or make excuses for him please.


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Paul Pentsa
Brisbane
Janko Tomek
Melbourne
Andrew Szabo
Perth
Vlada Papuga
Melbourne
Philip Ruzeu
Melbourne
Nick Pentsa
Brisbane
Michael Stanjo
Melbourne
STAY AWAY FROM THIS MAN! His mouth is full of Biblical verses but his heart is filled with hatred, jealousy, treachery and lust for power. This FALSE CHRISTIAN is the root of almost all evil in ACCN in Australia and he will even take you to court, if he can't get his way.
Janko is pretty much like Paul, dishonest and unloving, just less intelligent. Janko is now building his humongous "warehouse" in Tarneit, destined to remain void of both faith and members. This UNREPENTED SINNER is still dreaming about becoming an elder!
Hard-hearted and egoistic, this long-time "elder" has caused immense grief, division and misery amongst the Nazarenes in Australia. Some even call him a sadist... not that Andrew really cares about anyone's opinion, though. Currently residing in a nursing home in Perth.
Earned his nickname by constantly repeating "Ljubazni" (Dear Ones) while preaching. This recently appointed "elder assistant" is ambitious, but at the same time not clever enough to realize he will always be just Paul's and Janko's messenger boy.
Philip is Paul Pentsa's son-in-law and definitely his best student. Proud, stubborn, arrogant - a classic bigot. Due to his off-putting personality and some weird beliefs, he's not on very good terms with Janko Tomek and other Slovaks in Tarneit.
Here is your future Elder, whether you like the idea or not. Nicky is "a very nice guy". No gift for preaching or leadership skills, but being Paul Pentsa's son, he's actually got everything he needs. Sooner or later his Dad will find the way to install him as his successor.
Janko Tomek's loyal admirer and bodyguard - sleazy, hypocritical, dishonest and ignorant. His interpretation of the Scriptures can make you laugh as well as his awkward sermons in broken English.


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