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ACCN Forum | David Nikolson resigned

Moderator
Australia
6 Aug 2018 10:35

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From an anonymous e-mail:

David Nikolson resigned as a minister and as an elder, without having to face any consequences to his sin, didn’t even have to mention that he’s leaving in sin, made no restitution to anyone who he’s hurt, and says he has peace and is free to leave to any church he wants to go to

Another e-mail:

Justice was served and David Nikolson was forced to resign. Elders told the church not to question as to the reason why David is resigning? Well if it was for a good reason why not tell the church Dusko Dragojlovic? Everyone knows why! He is a compulsive liar. What do the 2 Nikolson brothers have in common? One is a thief put down from ministry. Dave is a liar forced down from Eldership. Quite sad actually!



absolutely false way
Australia
6 Aug 2018 12:19

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Proverbs 28:13
“If you hide your sins, you will not succeed. If you confess and reject them, you will receive mercy.”

1 John 1:9
“If we confess our sins, he is faithful and just and will forgive us our sins and purify us from all unrighteousness.”

Colossian 3:25
Anyone who does wrong will be repaid for their wrongs, and there is no favoritism.

(If David doesnt receive the punishment now, he will receive it on the last day, and the committee elders with him)
stepping down is not the punishment for his sin. (its the result for his sin, not the actual punishment itself)
he will step down AFTER his punishment is brought forth.
just stepping down is not the punishment itself.
this is a false way of bringing justice and righteous judgement.

Jeremiah 30:11
I am with you and will save you,' declares the LORD. 'Though I completely destroy all the nations among which I scatter you, I will not completely destroy you. I will discipline you but only in due measure; I will not let you go entirely unpunished.'

1 Timothy 5:20
“As for those who persist in sin, rebuke them in the presence of all.”

unrighteous act
Australia
6 Aug 2018 12:22

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was he put under the rod or excommunicated?

being promoted to become an elder is not a blessing.
nor
being removed from elder-ship the punishment of sin.

a type of discipline is the punishment for the committed sin.

eg. being under the rod, or excommunicated,

stepping down from a role is not the discipline itself.

committee elders are in falsehood.

read carefully
Australia
6 Aug 2018 18:37

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given the option to resign instead of facing the consequences for his sins is a devil deceived action and watered down act from hell.

it just cannot be put any other way.

matthew 5:20
For I tell you, unless your righteousness exceeds that of the scribes and Pharisees, you will never enter the kingdom of heaven.

the government of this world brings justice and correct punishments to those proven guilty without doubt.....where is the church, elders and committee elders doing their job????



foul justice
Australia
6 Aug 2018 20:25

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re.
........and says he has peace and is free to leave to any church he wants to go to....

yeah, because the elder committee has taken his guilt of sin upon themselves, so he is free now.....

free to go where he will not want to go (together with the elder committee), unless they repent and confess their sins.

the elder committee agreed and forced him to commit the sin with going ahead with the wedding of a nazarene member with a non-nazarene member in a nazarene church, and now they ask HIM to resign.

what about their resignation??????????????????????????

John 19:11
.............Therefore he who delivered me over to you has the greater sin.

Not solved
USA
6 Aug 2018 23:24

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Kurts, Miester and Dragojlovic Problem not solved for Columbia Station, excommunicate David Nikolson, Stefan's family, you have to return the church to original condition and return $65,000.00 back to Misa for all legal fees and additional expenses and to deeply apologize for your sinful actions against Misa, Mike, Dimitri and to the rest of members you caused great suffering.

Liars, hucksters...
USA
7 Aug 2018 9:08

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The entire denomination has become a joke. Full of liars and cheaters... Has the Nikolson guy gone to jail for stealing money from the San Diego church? Why is every other embezzlement case causes people to be punished by the law but not this?


Response
USA
7 Aug 2018 12:58

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This comment above me is the best comment so far on this entire website. "The entire denomination has become a joke." 100% fact. Its sickening what this church has become. All the elders preach now is "to keep the church pure YOU have to be pure." What a load of you know what. Instead of dealing with sin the elders endorse it. Nazarenes say they are the only ones saved.....HA!!! I bet there will be the least of us in heaven out of any denomination.

reasons
Australia
7 Aug 2018 13:24

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.....this is the reason why.

2 Corinth.11:
13.For such men are false apostles, deceitful workmen, disguising themselves as apostles of Christ.
14. And no wonder, for even Satan disguises himself as an angel of light.
15. So it is no surprise if his servants, also, disguise themselves as servants of righteousness. Their end will correspond to their deeds.

Gal.2:4
This matter arose because some false believers had infiltrated our ranks to spy on the freedom we have in Christ Jesus and to make us slaves.

Jude 1:4
For certain individuals whose condemnation was written about[b] long ago have secretly slipped in among you. They are ungodly people, who pervert the grace of our God into a license for immorality and deny Jesus Christ our only Sovereign and Lord.

Gal.1
6. I am astonished that you are so quickly deserting the one who called you to live in the grace of Christ and are turning to a different gospel—
7. which is really no gospel at all. Evidently some people are throwing you into confusion and are trying to pervert the gospel of Christ.
8. But even if we or an angel from heaven should preach a gospel other than the one we preached to you, let them be under God’s curse!
9. As we have already said, so now I say again: If anybody is preaching to you a gospel other than what you accepted, let them be under God’s curse!


"DO NOT BOW DOWN TO ELDERS"

its a sin unto death.......

its idolatry to bow down to a man, government, elder, elder committee, the oldest elder....etc

idolatry means:
1. very great admiration or respect for someone, often too great:
2. immoderate attachment or devotion to something or someone


curious
Australia
7 Aug 2018 14:09

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To response comment;
There's cumulative evidence that Nazarenes are going astray,
But are you 100% sure about yourself that you will be saved...

We all like to say things about others,but what about ourselves?

Why has Jesus asked this question? Luke 18:8
When the son of man comes,will he find faith on the earth?

Breath
Australia
9 Aug 2018 12:12

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Curious, you are right of course that everyone MUST examine themselves. This is vital in the life of any christian.

Reasons, the scriptures you pointed out are very fitting. This one in particular stands out;
Gal.1
6. I am astonished that you are so quickly deserting the one who called you to live in the grace of Christ and are turning to a different gospel—

Well.......are there not purveyors of the 'gospel of prosperity'in the ACCC? (And please lets be honest) This is the big temptation.
This is an evil and destructive false gospel which is based on a soul destroying lie. It is the cause of many if not all problems in this crumbling church. Turn away from this lie fully and God will restore the church. Reject the lie and Fast and pray.


LOVE
USA
11 Aug 2018 18:19

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Dorel Stephan, Petar Stephan and David Nicholson why don't you open up Columbia Station and show us how much love and spiritually you all have. You seem to talk about being spiritual and knowing the Bible well. You also have all the Elders supporting the three of you. They can even ordain you as an Elder in Columbia Station. It's empty and waiting for you.

possible
Australia
11 Aug 2018 21:00

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david has checked out from west akron.....
maybe he is going to columbia station...

fraud
USA
17 Aug 2018 3:40

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Sounds like fraud. Someone should go to jail!

disband
USA
17 Aug 2018 21:21

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How long before the Nazarene church is no more.
So much disharmony,
So much sin,
So much nonsense.

reasons
Australia
17 Aug 2018 23:22

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reasons for the all of this foolishness...........

2 Tim.4:3
For the time will come when people will not put up with sound doctrine. Instead, to suit their own desires, they will gather around them a great number of teachers to say what their itching ears want to hear.

Eccles.8:11
When the sentence for a crime is not quickly carried out, people's hearts are filled with schemes to do wrong.

Rom.1:25
They exchanged the truth about God for a lie, and worshiped and served created things rather than the Creator--who is forever praised. Amen.

Heb.10:26
For if we go on sinning deliberately after receiving the knowledge of the truth, there no longer remains a sacrifice for sins,

Acts 20:
29. I know that false teachers, like vicious wolves, will come in among you after I leave, not sparing the flock.
30. Some of your own people will tell lies to win over the Lord's followers.

1 Cor.11:30
Because of this, many are weak and sick among you, and many are fallen asleep.



Innocent?
USA
18 Aug 2018 23:27

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If there is doubt in anyone mind of David Nicholson's involvement in the theft of Columbia Station and if you proclaim his innocents then I strongly urge you to listen to the November 3, 2016 court date part 2 hearing on YouTube. Throughout the court hearing David used intelligent words and spoke in circles but one you listen to the end you will find out whose side he was really on and you will also hear the strong bond of the three men Dorel, Petar, and David. The question here is why did the ACCN elders allow David to continue to be an elder and conduct further duties as an elder?

few reasons
Australia
19 Aug 2018 0:16

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re.
The question here is why did the ACCN elders allow David to continue to be an elder and conduct further duties as an elder?

these are few reasons......

re. committee elders

Acts 20:
29. I know that false teachers, like vicious wolves, will come in among you after I leave..........

2 Corinthians 11:
13. For such men are false apostles, deceitful workmen, disguising themselves as apostles of Christ.
14. And no wonder, for even Satan disguises himself as an angel of light.
15. So it is no surprise if his servants, also, disguise themselves as servants of righteousness. Their end will correspond to their deeds.

2 Peter 2
1. But false prophets also arose among the people, just as there will be false teachers among you, who will secretly bring in destructive heresies, even denying the Master who bought them, bringing upon themselves swift destruction.
2. And many will follow their sensuality, and because of them the way of truth will be blasphemed.
3. And in their greed they will exploit you with false words. Their condemnation from long ago is not idle, and their destruction is not asleep.

Jude 1:4
For certain people have crept in unnoticed who long ago were designated for this condemnation, ungodly people, who pervert the grace of our God into sensuality and deny our only Master and Lord, Jesus Christ.

2 Thess.2:4
He will oppose and will exalt himself over everything that is called God or is worshiped, so that he sets himself up in God's temple, proclaiming himself to be God.

Why did U help them?
USA
19 Aug 2018 1:12

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Dorell Stephen the founder of Columbia Station after listening to your testimony during the Court hearing on Nov 3, 2016, on you not wanting to compromise your faith I would like to encourage you to seek a mental health professional that may be able to help you. Hurting innocent children, widows, older members, a pregnant member, and telling others that they cannot enter into God's house is not normal behavior and is undoubtedly not for God. You have hurt many people along with father Petar Stephan and David Nicholsons. Please seek professional help.

who is our author
Australia
19 Aug 2018 23:38

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re. comments of Dorell Stephan
......on you not wanting to compromise your faith.....

this is the actual problem, being "your faith".

do we need to practice our faith or the Faith of Jesus Christ?

we need to be under the banner of the Lord's faith, not our own.

who is Lord here?
who is the author here?
who is the originator here?

Acts 3:15
You killed the author of life, but God raised him from the dead. We are witnesses of this.

who is the author here? Jesus or Dorell Stephan?

Heb.12:2
Looking unto Jesus the author and finisher of our faith;....

who is the author here? Jesus or Dorell Stephan?


Columbia Station
USA
27 Aug 2018 17:31

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To: Petar Stephan, David Nickolson, Dorel Stephan, Willie Kurtz, Mark Meister, and Dushko Dragojlovic: you have fulfilled John 16:2 where it says, ‘They shall put you out of the synagogues: yea, the time cometh, that whosoever killeth you will think that he doeth God service’. I would like to remind you again that this is what you did, this is your doing, and you have fulfilled what Jesus had said. To the elders, you call yourselves ‘Spiritual Leaders’ that you have all the qualities of a Spiritual leader that lights a candlestick up on a hill. But I want to let you know a gentleman by Indian natality had shown more love and compassion than all of your elders put together. Not only has he provided a room at a hotel for the remaining CS members to fellowship in but has also offered with the kindness and mercy of his heart to buy a new church so the CS members can gather. How is it that you close the door of God, and you think you have done God’s service, but yet this unbeliever has had pity and compassion and would love to see the remaining CS members gather in a church? So which example should we follow here, your example of closing down the church or should we follow this stone example for having pity and compassion?

who is awake
Australia
27 Aug 2018 17:45

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to those that are awake, these verses are clear.
to the others, this is closed, because they are blind.

John 16: 2,3
2.........will think that he doeth God service.
3.........because they have not known the Father, nor me.


Matthew 7:
23......I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity.

Matthew 23:
13.......for ye shut up the kingdom of heaven against men: for ye neither go in yourselves, neither suffer ye them that are entering to go in.

Justice Served?
USA
26 Oct 2018 23:29

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Justice served by God or by Man?

This they said, tempting him, that they might have to accuse him. But Jesus stooped down, and with his finger wrote on the ground, as though he heard them not

So when they continued asking him, he lifted up himself, and said unto them, He that is without sin among you, let him first cast a stone at her.

For with what judgment ye judge, ye shall be judged: and with what measure ye mete, it shall be measured to you again.

And why beholdest thou the mote that is in thy brother's eye, but considerest not the beam that is in thine own eye?

It is really really sad to visit West Akron these days...a Church without a Father...mere orphans...devouring each other!

But if ye bite and devour one another, take heed that ye be not consumed one of another


Question to above?

27 Oct 2018 1:31

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Are you saying that David is the Father and the church are orphans?

???

27 Oct 2018 1:36

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If you are saying that David Nikolson is the Father, then the ACCN is a cult!

Yes
USA
27 Oct 2018 3:05

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The church has a Father, and it sure isn't David Nikolson.

Now I've heard it all. The ACC is officially a cult. This is the level of ignorance of believers, witnessed on the comment three above this one.

to justice served

27 Oct 2018 3:30

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To those of you who worship a lying unrepented man named Dave Nikolson who sat down from the Eldership so his many sins would not be brought before the church stay in your own church. Why do you keep coming to West Akron? Whoa unto you if Dave Nikolson is your father. To the rest of us God is our Father.

Faith of our Fathers

27 Oct 2018 3:38

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A good “Father” is one of the most unsung, upraised, and yet one of the most valuable assets in our Church families. Rev. Billy Graham

Jesus is coming!

27 Oct 2018 4:06

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What are you saying? An elder is NOT a spiritual Father. I think that there is much confusion with what an actual Elder is. God is the only Father.

Elders?

27 Oct 2018 4:28

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I would love to know what the Elders think about their positions. Do they believe they are Fathers on this earth? If so, then they want you to serve MAN not GOD.

Spiritual Father

27 Oct 2018 4:49

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Yes my Elder is also my spiritual Father. I counseled with him during my repentance and my conversion, I made my confessions to him, He baptized me, He laid hands on me during the prayer of consecration, He blessed my marriage, and so forth.

Those who turn many to righteousness will shine like the stars forever and ever.” -Daniel 12:3.

To: Spiritual Father

27 Oct 2018 4:57

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Well, it's a good thing that David didn't laugh at your confessions with other members as he did to other people. And since you serve David Nikolson as your Spiritual Father, then you can explain that to God when Jesus returns.

Spiritual Father

27 Oct 2018 5:30

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If you call a man a spiritual Father then you are pitifully empty spiritually-speaking. Actually you are so empty that you hardly have any clue of the faith at all. You have one spiritual Father and that is God the Father. Elders are SERVANTS not Fathers. Wow. You are empty my friend. Read Matthew 23:9..."And call no man your father upon the earth: for one is your Father, which is in heaven."

You gotta be kidding

27 Oct 2018 6:38

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An elder is your spiritual father???

There guys ^...we have just seen the stupidest statement on this website.

These so called elders are NOT your spiritual fathers... That's catholicism.. That's wrong!
Wow...

chapter and verse
Australia
28 Oct 2018 14:15

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which bible verse states that a man, or an elder is a father or a spiritual father?

please state chapter and verse.

thanks

A Thought
USA
28 Oct 2018 18:28

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I don’t know any of the people mentioned in this thread as I’m not part of your church. But could it be supposed that, like many things, it is context that determines what is meant by a ‘father,’ spiritual or otherwise? It is true that Jesus said to call no man your father upon the earth (Matthew 23:9). But wouldn’t it also be true that His purpose in making that statement was different than if, say, someone asked us who our parents were? Wouldn’t we say that so-and-so is my ‘father,’ and we’d all understand what that means, and we’d further understand that we haven’t been disobedient to what Jesus was speaking of by merely identifying our earthly father?

As for the concept of a ‘spiritual’ father, might it also depend on context, or the manner in which one thinks of or defines this particular term? If someone defines a ‘spiritual father’ as someone who believes they supplant God as the Father, then of course that would clearly be wrong. But it seems the Bible does speak about some relationships that maybe some might call ‘spiritual fatherhood,’ perhaps as a means of describing a close relationship in terms we would understand figuratively.

The Apostle Paul addressed both Timothy and Titus as sons (I Timothy 1:2, II Timothy 1:2, Titus 1:4), even though he had no familial relationship with either one of them. One could infer that if they were sons in the faith, that he was suggesting himself as the father in a spiritual sense. Not God the Father, of course, but someone who had a huge influence on them, just as fathers do on their sons in a family. The affection and love with which he wrote to these men looks very much like that of a loving father. He also spoke of at least one of them as sons in the Gospel (Philippians 2:22). In addition, in leaving instruction for Timothy, Paul also addressed how he was to approach an elder when rebuke was needed, which was to entreat him as a father (I Timothy 5:1). I do think the context here of the word ‘elder’ is of an older man, though, versus the position of elder in the church. But I could be wrong. Paul also referred to Onesimus as a son (Philemon 1:10), as one he’d begotten in his bonds. Fatherly affection wasn’t confined only to these men, either. Paul wrote to the Corinthians, addressing them in certain parts as sons (I Corinthians 4:14). He even mentions that they didn’t have many fathers (in spite of having many instructors), and said that in Christ Jesus he (that is, Paul) had ‘begotten you through the gospel’ (I Corinthians 4:15). Could someone describe this as ‘spiritual fatherhood?’

The Apostle John speaks of children, young men, and fathers in I John 2:12-14. If no man should be considered a ‘father,’ then it would seem counterintuitive for him to describe them as such. Similar to Paul, John also addresses those to whom he writes as “my little children” (I John 2:1, I John 3:18), which would make him a type of father by inference, and very much in a spiritual sense… though again not as God the Father.

The Apostle Peter makes reference to a son named Marcus (I Peter 5:13). However, it could be that Marcus was his actual son (versus a ‘spiritual’ son).

Perhaps some will feel differently, but depending on how one defines terms, I can understand someone referring to a ‘spiritual father,’ particularly if this example is seen also in Scripture.

Mathew 27:5-11
USA
29 Oct 2018 0:22

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5- But all their works they do for to be seen of men: they make broad their phylacteries, and enlarge the borders of their garments.

6- And love the uppermost rooms at feasts,and the chief seats in the synagogues,

7- And greetings in the markets, and to be called of men, Rabbi Rabbi.

8- But be not ye called Rabbi for one is your master, even Christ; and all ye are brethren.

9- And call no man your father upon the earth: for one is Father, which is in heaven.

10- Neither be ye called masters: for one is your master, even Christ.

11- But he that is greatest among you shall be your servant.

understood
Australia
29 Oct 2018 17:00

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to: A Thought

understood
but because most elders think they are LORDS (when they are not), then in no case should anyone refer to them as a father.

if any apostle (in new testament times) called themselves a father, that could be a valid reason for an elder to likewise be called a father (in some spiritual manner perhaps)
so
because there is NO biblical reference (in new testament times) for any one being called a father, then there is absolutely NO reason for any other member of Christ's Church to be called a father in any way....

the Lords prayer is so simple.....Our Father which art in heaven....

That is our father, not a person or god on the earth.


A Thought
USA
30 Oct 2018 2:53

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To: understood

I also understand what you’re saying. Even if the concept of a ‘spiritual father’ might be in Scripture, it would never justify un-Christlike behavior on the part of an elder (or anyone else for that matter), nor would it seem to be a ‘title’ any godly man would ever affix to himself.

Thank you also for being gentle in your reply. I am continually shocked many times to the point of tears to read the discourse on here.

note
Australia
30 Oct 2018 10:00

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dont be offended.

there were disciples that left following Jesus too, which is sad by just reading that passage, let alone being present at that time and seeing that actually happening.

follow the good examples that good christians are following the bibles teachings the correct, holy and godly way.



Offended/sad?
USA
31 Oct 2018 6:50

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To: "I am continually shocked many times to the point of tears to read the discourse on here"

My friend, righteous anger towards false teachings and beliefs, is not something you should be sad over.
Heck, you should be angry and grab a piece of rope and start whacking people with it and turn tables over with that same anger. Some of these acc people follow these "leaders" like literal sheep. Oh and you know who else was also angry and attacked people and their tables? I trust you know...


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Vlada Papuga
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Philip Ruzeu
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Michael Stanjo
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STAY AWAY FROM THIS MAN! His mouth is full of Biblical verses but his heart is filled with hatred, jealousy, treachery and lust for power. This FALSE CHRISTIAN is the root of almost all evil in ACCN in Australia and he will even take you to court, if he can't get his way.
Janko is pretty much like Paul, dishonest and unloving, just less intelligent. Janko is now building his humongous "warehouse" in Tarneit, destined to remain void of both faith and members. This UNREPENTED SINNER is still dreaming about becoming an elder!
Hard-hearted and egoistic, this long-time "elder" has caused immense grief, division and misery amongst the Nazarenes in Australia. Some even call him a sadist... not that Andrew really cares about anyone's opinion, though. Currently residing in a nursing home in Perth.
Earned his nickname by constantly repeating "Ljubazni" (Dear Ones) while preaching. This recently appointed "elder assistant" is ambitious, but at the same time not clever enough to realize he will always be just Paul's and Janko's messenger boy.
Philip is Paul Pentsa's son-in-law and definitely his best student. Proud, stubborn, arrogant - a classic bigot. Due to his off-putting personality and some weird beliefs, he's not on very good terms with Janko Tomek and other Slovaks in Tarneit.
Here is your future Elder, whether you like the idea or not. Nicky is "a very nice guy". No gift for preaching or leadership skills, but being Paul Pentsa's son, he's actually got everything he needs. Sooner or later his Dad will find the way to install him as his successor.
Janko Tomek's loyal admirer and bodyguard - sleazy, hypocritical, dishonest and ignorant. His interpretation of the Scriptures can make you laugh as well as his awkward sermons in broken English.


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