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ACCN Forum | Mark Meister

Columbia Station
USA
14 Oct 2018 14:04

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You said that the Stefan’s heard that Misha Petras plan was to turn the Columbia Station church into a European Church and that was in participation with Stefan’s plan.

If you read Misha’s deposition and you asked him directly you would know that this statement is false.

Misha’s Deposition:
A. Andre Toth, he write the letter. I don't know what his problem. But Dorel Stefan was dealing with him. And one time, Traian Mohan stand up in the church, he was dealing with Stefan all the time, and he say, let's throw out all Apostolic Christian elders from the church and get Andre Toth. And that was at the time and Dorel and Petar Stefan. Then –
A. David Nicholson at that time wasn't the problem.
A. But Traian, he say that because that -- Dorel and Petar Stefan, they fighting so many things against the elders. Throw them out. Throw them out. European elders. European way. European -- but this has -- this has nothing to do with European way. This was a planning to take the church over and sell it. As you see, you already send us some offer and things like that, you want to sell the church
Q.They wanted to keep David Nicholson?
A. Yes.


You also confirmed that Dushko Drngojlovic told the Stefan’s that as trustees they could sell the church because it was legal.


I ask you when someone targets families and bully’s a pregnant woman, children, widows and the elderly do you tell the victims not to judge and to take ownership over the abuser’s actions?

In Misha’s deposition, he states that David told him that he is next which confirms that he was the target.


Misha’s Deposition:
A. look at how many kids was bullying and make a suicide because they was bullying. Why these people don't live a peace? You are faithful. You are faithful for yourself. Leave other people alone. Why you make it bullying every Sunday? And to push. I just want to tell you, when they push everybody out, I say to David Nicholson like this: David, everybody is out. Look at it. We are a very small number. What happen next? He say, you are next. He already know that I am next. So they start to go after me, after Dmytro, after -- just pushing everybody out.

As an ACCN Elder do you think that it is okay for a church to accept a member’s donations and then discriminate against them and kick them out?

In Misha’s Deposition, he stated that he wasn’t looking for money in return for his donation. He just wanted a place to worship God with his family.

Misha’s Deposition:
Q. Why didn't you just go to another church? Are there other churches --A. Why I have to go to another church? Why?
A. So, in other words, you want to say, everybody leave it and leave it to Stefan church. So that is what you are –
Q. My question was, are there other churches you could go to in the area?
A. Yeah, but why I have to go?

Q. -- if somebody else has the original deed that will prevent somebody else from selling it?
A. If the organization keep the deed nobody -- I cannot go over there, I done the landscaping, I done myself $100,000 worth of work or whatever, now I can go over there, this is mine. Once you put the charity, it is gone. It is not mine. I cannot have money back.

A. The first time I want to say, he told me five years ago whether we was doing the landscaping with my son and my equipment. I pulled probably 200 trees. I didn't donate money when the church was built, but I did landscaping. They know. Petar Stefan, he was with me, just collecting the branches and rock. And with my equipment we done everything. He donated $700 to put the branches, I mean, the shop. And he was helping out. He can say that. I done everything with my machine and my son. And then he say, why you don't buy that parcel property land? Because that building is set up on two parcel. And one parcel, we don't use it. So he asked me and my son. I was looking for the land. He said, why you don't buy this land? I say, look, I don't want to make it in the church argument that I stole it. That somebody going to say you stole property.
A. So he asked me many time to buy. And I even say to the -- the church, I say, brothers and sister, he offered me to buy that, I don't want it. I say to the David Nicholson, he was chairman when I said it in the church. I said, look, these people, Stefan they want to sell the church. They open -- and that time on the meeting, Dorel say, sell it. Sell it. Sell the church.

Columbia Station
USA
14 Oct 2018 14:07

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Imagine if there were no depositions, no court recordings and the church got sold? Who would people have blamed for the missing church money and the funds from the sale of the church?

Misha and his family did not have a chance. He was targeted, discriminated against and abused. Granted he was not the only member but he was the scapegoat, the person who was going to get blamed regardless of a) this going to court, b) facts and c) evidence.

Thank God that he is just and his mercy is pure and that the ACCN elders will not judge on the judgment day.

I don’t know how you can sleep at night? I don’t understand how the elders can ignore this situation and not take actions to correct it? Families got destroyed, and the elder's inaction and actions have caused a lot of hate. The elder’s job is to create peace and love and not to create hatred and to support criminals.

One day you will have to stand before the judgment seat, and you will remember all the wrong that took place in Columbia Station.


seriously dangerous
Australia
15 Oct 2018 13:09

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Let this be clear to everyone.

When the end comes, and Jesus returns for "HIS" Church (the members, not the building/s), "MANY" will be "VERY" surprised.


surprise means:

1. to strike or occur to with a sudden feeling of wonder or astonishment, as through unexpectedness.
2. to come upon or discover suddenly and unexpectedly.

1 Thess.5:2 writes:
For you know very well that the day of the Lord will come like a thief in the night.

and

1 Thess.5:3 writes:
While people are saying, "Peace and safety," destruction will come on them suddenly, as labor pains on a pregnant woman, and they will not escape.

Can we see here the wording........"they will not escape."

"NO ONE" will have the ability to reverse "ANYTHING".

nor repent from their sin, nor commit in well doing, when the "END" comes.

Romans 2:5 writes
But because of your stubbornness and unrepentant heart you are storing up wrath for yourself in the day of wrath and revelation of the righteous judgment of God,

2 Pet.2:2-4 writes:
2. And many shall follow their pernicious ways; by reason of whom the way of truth shall be evil spoken of.
3. And through covetousness shall they with feigned words make merchandise of you: whose judgment now of a long time lingereth not, and their damnation slumbereth not.
4. For if God spared not the angels that sinned, but cast them down to hell, and delivered them into chains of darkness, to be reserved unto judgment;

When the end comes, and Jesus returns for "HIS" Church (the members, not the building/s), "MANY" will be "VERY" surprised.

Spider's web
USA
5 Nov 2018 22:43

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To: Mark Meister and your buddies,

Cicka Petar Stefan caught you all in his Web of lies, why did you and still continue to support Petar Stefan's abuses against C.S members?
What did you gain by protecting David Nikolson? Let me tell you what Chicka Peter gained, Petar is laughing because he knows he did not close C.S church by him self Petar had your support, it makes sense Petar was laughing at the members and making fun of them with confidence.
How are you planning to fix your mess with the Stefan's or have you completely abandoned the C.S members?


valid reason?
USA
6 Nov 2018 0:51

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Brother Mark you and the elder body continued the abuse that the Stefan's started.

The moment you stood by these men you agreed and partook with the abuse the Stefan's inflicted on the innocent children, elderly and members of Columbia Station.

What good reason did the Stefan's have to kick members out of the church, do background checks on individual members, steal the churches money, etc.,?

Also what good reason did the Stefan's have to shut off the water which withheld bathroom privileges, turned off the heat, made fun of kids and members, charged rent to members who were contributing, etc.?

serious note
Australia
6 Nov 2018 14:07

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Ezekiel 14:
1. Then certain of the elders of Israel came to me and sat before me.
2. And the word of the Lord came to me:
3. “Son of man, these men have taken their idols into their hearts, and set the stumbling block of their iniquity before their faces. Should I indeed let myself be consulted by them?
4. Therefore speak to them and say to them, Thus says the Lord God: Any one of the house of Israel who takes his idols into his heart and sets the stumbling block of his iniquity before his face, and yet comes to the prophet, I the Lord will answer him as he comes with the multitude of his idols,
5. that I may lay hold of the hearts of the house of Israel, who are all estranged from me through their idols.
6. “Therefore say to the house of Israel, Thus says the Lord God: Repent and turn away from your idols, and turn away your faces from all your abominations.
7. For any one of the house of Israel, or of the strangers who sojourn in Israel, who separates himself from me, taking his idols into his heart and putting the stumbling block of his iniquity before his face, and yet comes to a prophet to consult me through him, I the Lord will answer him myself.
8. And I will set my face against that man; I will make him a sign and a byword and cut him off from the midst of my people, and you shall know that I am the Lord.
9. And if the prophet is deceived and speaks a word, I, the Lord, have deceived that prophet, and I will stretch out my hand against him and will destroy him from the midst of my people Israel.
10. And they shall bear their punishment—the punishment of the prophet and the punishment of the inquirer shall be alike—
11. that the house of Israel may no more go astray from me, nor defile themselves anymore with all their transgressions, but that they may be my people and I may be their God, declares the Lord God.”

did you take note on verse 10:

10. And they shall bear their punishment — the punishment of the prophet and the punishment of the inquirer shall be alike...

golden parachute
USA
29 Nov 2018 18:53

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Elders – how do you handle complaints when members steal charitable funds? Your reputation depends on how you address issues when people do bad things and how you treat those who have been victimized by those perpetrators.

Also, what have you done to address thievery and to prevent it from happening again? You have members embezzling over 100K, using church funds to travel internationally, using funds to do background checks on members, stealing all the funds from a church's bank account and taking ownership over a church building.

Giving a perpetrator a golden parachute and punishing victims to keep it quiet and to let someone escape free shows that there won’t be consequences and also shows how you handle victims. - Remember a man who will steal an egg will steal a chicken too.

News will get out and if it’s something you don’t want on the front page of a paper do what is right. Investigate embezzlement and do what is proper to comply with Gods law first and then the law of this land. Otherwise, you will continue to damage your reputation and the community.

why no resolution
Australia
30 Nov 2018 0:17

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neutral elders not involved in these awful sins can make a step, if they are willing to follow & obey the Spirit's leading.

one example is below......

Deuteronomy 19:
14. Thou shalt not remove thy neighbour's landmark, which they of old time have set in thine inheritance, which thou shalt inherit in the land that the Lord thy God giveth thee to possess it.
15. One witness shall not rise up against a man for any iniquity, or for any sin, in any sin that he sinneth: at the mouth of two witnesses, or at the mouth of three witnesses, shall the matter be established.
16. If a false witness rise up against any man to testify against him that which is wrong;
17. Then both the men, between whom the controversy is, shall stand before the Lord, before the priests and the judges, which shall be in those days;
18. And the judges shall make diligent inquisition: and, behold, if the witness be a false witness, and hath testified falsely against his brother;
19. Then shall ye do unto him, as he had thought to have done unto his brother: so shalt thou put the evil away from among you.

John 7:51
Doth our law judge any man, before it hear him, and know what he doeth?

This is the reason why "MANY" neutral elders "CANNOT" and/or "DO NOT" take action against those elders in sin:

Romans 1:18
For the wrath of God is revealed from heaven against all ungodliness and unrighteousness of men, who hold the truth in unrighteousness;

can you see the wording:.."who hold the truth in unrighteousness".






Police?
USA
30 Nov 2018 4:35

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So all the -alleged- criminality that's been going on with many of these acc churches... Has anyone called the authorities? Why can a Nikolson embezzle bags of money and not sit in the pokey for years??

Akron Baptism
USA
2 Dec 2018 12:42

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Mark Miester and Dushko Dragojlovic are performing baptism in West Akron church this weekend, they believe they are ready to perform baptism without making correction in their spiritual life, now they will teach the new souls about repentance and restitution.
Shame on them they don't fear God.

stand up sion
Australia
2 Dec 2018 22:20

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which church is allowing them to perform baptisms with sin in their lives?

why would any church allow them?

which church would not want to stand against their sins?

? to ACCN Bishops
USA
3 Dec 2018 0:40

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21: Thought therefore which teachest another,teachest thou not thyself? Thou that preachest a man should not steal, dost thou steal?

22: Thou that sayest a man should not commit adultry, dost thou commit adultry? Thou that abhorrest idols, dost thou commit sacrilege?

23: Thou that makest they boast of the law, through breaking the law dishonourest thou God?

24: For the name of God is blasphemed among the Gentiles through you, as it is written.

via certified mail
USA
3 Dec 2018 13:10

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The Elder Committee
Apostolic Christian Church (Nazarean)

May 31, 2016

Bro. Mihal Petras
7110 State Rd
Wadsworth, OH 44281

Dear Bro. Mihal
Greetings in the name of Jesus Christ, our Savior and Lord.
We write in response to your letter dated May 4, 2016 which included multiple enclosures and was addressed to "To Whom it may Concern." As we understand, this material was sent to many elder brothers within our ACCN conference.

With heavy hearts, we must express our sincere regret for the manner in which you have brought public accusations against an elder brother (1 Timothy 5:19). As a senior brother of the Columbia Station congregation, we trust you would endeavor to promote unity and peace within our fellowship and not dissension and discord (1 Corinthians 1:10).

We pray the Lord will grant you humility and grace to seek Forgiveness of Bro. David Nickolson for naming him in your correspondence and for bringing such strong condemnation upon a fellow brother in christ. We further urge that you cease the distribution of this material. This is not the way to bring peaceful resolution to the issues concerning the Columbia Station church property. Such actions do not honor God. Rather, they seriously compromise our witness to the community at large and cast a negative light upon the body of christ.

It is our understanding that a court date has been set for late June to decide upon the case involving the Columbia Station property. We will await the outcome of this legal proceeding to address this matter with you further. In the meantime, we beseech you to draw near to God and submit to the leading of the Holy Spirit, so that we, together, might be led upon the paths of righteousness for his name's sake.

In Christ,
Bro. Dushko Dragojlovic
Bro. Willy Kurtz
Bro. Mark Meister







baloney
Australia
3 Dec 2018 14:19

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accusations against an elder brother....
accusations against an elder brother....
accusations against an elder brother...
accusations against an elder brother....

thats the "ONLY" thing that bothers every elder in sin.

if a elder was free from sin, why would it bother them?



who was in fault
Australia
3 Dec 2018 15:24

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re. comment in letter.........

We pray the Lord will grant you humility and grace to seek Forgiveness of Bro. David Nickolson for naming him in your correspondence and for bringing such strong condemnation upon a fellow brother in christ.

Was Bro. David in fault after all?

The ministers in West Akron caught Bro.David lying....yeah?

so, who was in fault after all?


righteous judgement
Australia
3 Dec 2018 16:05

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how many times did the elders step in when a brother or sister was accused of doing something, and it was later found out that it was not true?

did the elders step in to bring justice when a brother or sister is accused?
or
do the elders step in only when one of their buddies are accused?

where is justice and righteous judgement here?



Beware
USA
3 Dec 2018 23:04

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Do not trust these people,
Mark Miester
Dushko Dragojlovic
Willy Kurtz
David Nikolson
Paul Pentsa and their supporters

These people are church destroyers and family destroyers

was it ever done
Australia
5 Dec 2018 23:43

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when was this justice ever done:

Deuteronomy 19:
15. One witness shall not rise up against a man for any iniquity, or for any sin, in any sin that he sinneth: at the mouth of two witnesses, or at the mouth of three witnesses, shall the matter be established.
16. If a false witness rise up against any man to testify against him that which is wrong;
17. Then both the men, between whom the controversy is, shall stand before the Lord, before the priests and the judges, which shall be in those days;
18. And the judges shall make diligent inquisition: and, behold, if the witness be a false witness, and hath testified falsely against his brother;
19. Then shall ye do unto him, as he had thought to have done unto his brother: so shalt thou put the evil away from among you.

20 And those which remain shall hear, and fear, and shall henceforth commit no more any such evil among you.


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Paul Pentsa
Brisbane
Janko Tomek
Melbourne
Andrew Szabo
Perth
Vlada Papuga
Melbourne
Philip Ruzeu
Melbourne
Nick Pentsa
Brisbane
Michael Stanjo
Melbourne
STAY AWAY FROM THIS MAN! His mouth is full of Biblical verses but his heart is filled with hatred, jealousy, treachery and lust for power. This FALSE CHRISTIAN is the root of almost all evil in ACCN in Australia and he will even take you to court, if he can't get his way.
Janko is pretty much like Paul, dishonest and unloving, just less intelligent. Janko is now building his humongous "warehouse" in Tarneit, destined to remain void of both faith and members. This UNREPENTED SINNER is still dreaming about becoming an elder!
Hard-hearted and egoistic, this long-time "elder" has caused immense grief, division and misery amongst the Nazarenes in Australia. Some even call him a sadist... not that Andrew really cares about anyone's opinion, though. Currently residing in a nursing home in Perth.
Earned his nickname by constantly repeating "Ljubazni" (Dear Ones) while preaching. This recently appointed "elder assistant" is ambitious, but at the same time not clever enough to realize he will always be just Paul's and Janko's messenger boy.
Philip is Paul Pentsa's son-in-law and definitely his best student. Proud, stubborn, arrogant - a classic bigot. Due to his off-putting personality and some weird beliefs, he's not on very good terms with Janko Tomek and other Slovaks in Tarneit.
Here is your future Elder, whether you like the idea or not. Nicky is "a very nice guy". No gift for preaching or leadership skills, but being Paul Pentsa's son, he's actually got everything he needs. Sooner or later his Dad will find the way to install him as his successor.
Janko Tomek's loyal admirer and bodyguard - sleazy, hypocritical, dishonest and ignorant. His interpretation of the Scriptures can make you laugh as well as his awkward sermons in broken English.


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