Spiritual and Mental Abuse in Apostolic Christian Church Nazarene in Australia

| Paul Pentsa visiting

vista CA USA 1 Nov 2018 13:00 2263 views	Hey everybody! So this past weekend the Pentsas in California had a wedding, and guess who was at church? Paul Pentsa himself! So for the morning service, we were informed that (PP) would be preaching! What in the world is going on???? Our leaders have no shame in letting him preach after all the mayhem that he has caused? Mark Igic/Andy Olas please search your conscience if you are reading this, and realize that there are many people in your congregation who are not ok with letting someone like him preach!

vista ca USA 1 Nov 2018 14:52 2242 views	there was no wedding in Vista, was Paul P at a church wedding?

No humility USA 1 Nov 2018 16:07 2228 views	The reality is the elders don't care about the members. They have elevated themselves as Lord God himself. And it also appears that Paul Pentsa won't be put down from his position because Paul Pentsa is too powerful. He has forced his way to the position of an elder and can do whatever he likes with no consequences or at least until God stops him. The puzzling part about the elder body is how those that don't agree with what is going on seem to lack courage and faith to speak up. It's is not just ACC people who find Paul Pensta, an awful person. I once heard a person outside of the ACC faith who had an encounter with Paul Pentsa and said that he is a wolf in sheep's clothing. (This is a person who had no history with him and had no reason to say anything bad about him). Paul Pentsa is a man of arrogance who lacks humility and kindness!!!

scared or not Australia 1 Nov 2018 17:23 2210 views	re. The puzzling part about the elder body is how those that don't agree with what is going on seem to lack courage and faith to speak up. "MANY" will be "VERY" surprised on the "JUDGMENT DAY" 2 Corinth.5:10 For we must all appear before the judgment seat of Christ, that each one may receive the things done in the body, according to what he has done, whether good or bad Heb.10:26 For if we go on sinning willfully after receiving the knowledge of the truth, there no longer remains a sacrifice for sins, "MANY" actually have a belief of testimony in their lives, minds and hearts that they are in the right....yet, are not, because they still do not know God, or never knew God. John 16: 2. They shall put you out of the synagogues: yea, the time cometh, that whosoever killeth you will think that he doeth God service. 3. And these things will they do unto you, because they have not known the Father, nor me.

vista CA USA 2 Nov 2018 1:17 2159 views	there was only a pentsa family wedding outside of church

uncomfortable USA 2 Nov 2018 2:01 2152 views	I think the elders provoke its members. The reason I believe that is because if they know that the members feel uncomfortable with Paul Pentsa preaching, why do they let him preach? It's provoking.

Sheep... USA 2 Nov 2018 6:05 2126 views	Why don't you all get up and walk out?? I don't understand this sheepish mentality...or get together with whom you know that will be on the same page as you and start clapping... until they tell him to sit down and don't preach. What are they going to do?? Physically assault you to stop clapping? Are they going to try to remove you physically? No. The answer is no. Nobody in these churches have the right or the power to do that...especially in America where a lawsuit can quickly come upon a church. Stand up for yourselves and make yourself heard....or simply leave the acc and realize that there's no verse in the Bible that gives the acc the unique right to be the one and only true church. (in fact it's becoming clearer by the day that the acc and a huge number of its members are practically clueless about the actual Gospel) If you leave... They'll get the message and hopefully repent from their false beliefs.

To: Sheep... USA 2 Nov 2018 6:36 2116 views	I like some of your points. These elders completely ignore members concerns. It's almost like they are taunting them by putting him up there to preach.

Moderator Australia 2 Nov 2018 8:11 2103 views	Tell us a bit more about these elders. Why do they tolerate Paul Pentsa? If you have their recent photos, please send them to our e-mail. Thanks.

To: moderator USA 2 Nov 2018 9:17 2089 views	Why do the elders tolerate him? I'm not sure that they tolerate him. What the elders have shown is that they discriminate amongst other brethren. Paul Pentsa is not a member of a church in Colorado nor any church in America. He was not voted as a minister nor as an elder by any church in American. He is still the elder of Brisbane and Melbourne churches. What is sad is that brother Boris Vujicic who had shown love and kindness was asked to step down when he moved to America - he never preached nor conducted elder roles right? The elders should respect members who don't want Paul Pentsa to preach. Stop taunting members.

Moderator Australia 2 Nov 2018 11:01 2058 views	The American and Canadian elders need to send a letter to the members in Australia, stating clearly that: Paul Pentsa is not, as we are concerned, a minister or an elder. You are not obliged to follow his decisions.

Church Cancer Australia 2 Nov 2018 14:51 2021 views	I once spoke to the wife of a man who had pastored at one of these churches in Australia and she told me that she and her family and others look up to a man called Paul Pentsa because God has blessed him with many houses and properties because he must be a VERY holy man. This was maybe a decade before the Altona church sale had unfolded. It is my impression that pp is looked upon by some people and perhaps even elders as favored by God and actually believe that this is the reason for his material wealth. So the distorted thinking goes something like this: "If this man can be so wealthy as a result of God's favor then he must be VERY holy and I shouldn't rock the boat since God might do the same for me one day" This then becomes the prevailing focus. This way of distorted thinking leads people and entire churches astray spiritually and very far from God since the focus is entirely on money and is contagious. You cannot have two masters.

Moderator Australia 2 Nov 2018 14:58 2016 views	Some sort of 'prosperity preaching', eh? In close-knit communities, isolated by religion, culture and language, people naturally lean towards those with more money.

please read carefull Australia 2 Nov 2018 17:45 1993 views	1 Tim.6:10 For the love of money is the root of all evil: which while some coveted after, they have erred from the faith, and pierced themselves through with many sorrows. Paul Pentsa "AND" all these North American Elders (seems very clear), have erred from the faith by allowing sin in their lives, members, churches and eldership roles, commitments and responsibilities. Acts 8:20 Peter answered: "May your money perish with you, because you thought you could buy the gift of God with money! money, materialistic wealth and holiness has nothing in common by the bible. corruption, unrighteousness, unfairness, partiality, wilful sinning, cunningness, hypocrisy has a lot in common with paul pentsa and the north american elders, elder committee, elder meetings, elder body and elder handbook.

CORRECTION USA 5 Nov 2018 14:55 1806 views	Boris V was not discriminated. He was an elder at the La Puente CA church. What this does show is that you can lie, cheat, steal, discriminate, etc. and still be an elder. When God has had enough, he will put an end to the abuse that the elders have been doing. And everyone will be accountable for what they have done on this earth.

VERY TRUE Australia 5 Nov 2018 15:43 1791 views	to: CORRECTION exactly spot on.....

That's all folks USA 5 Nov 2018 21:03 1765 views	So there you have folks elders for life!

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