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ACCN Forum | Lets stop this!!!

LetsStandUpForChrist
Canada
24 Dec 2018 16:16

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I must say I am very disgusted for reading things on this website. If I was to read some things from here to my two boys they would be disgusted. This website seems to me it is dealing with people that have some huge bitterness and unsettled business with members of the church. God must be even more disgusted with all of this. How is this being a light to the world? How is this okay? Christ is to be our example, our roadmap, our trust. Not man. I am confused to the goal of this website and slandering. I fear for people in the website as well as people that put this website together. None of this is okay. None of this is an example to our youth. Satan must be laughing so hard that he has all of you guys wrapped around his little finger. This is so disgusting and has nothing to do with Christ. This needs to stop.

Moderator
Australia
24 Dec 2018 23:39

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Hi Canada,

Merry Christmas!

Thank you for your comment.

Let me show you a few pictures.

This is happening in France, now, as you are reading these very lines.

Why do these people riot?

Why are they so angry?

Should they not be happy with what they have? They live in a wealthy, first-world country. They have access to free education and medicare. Their country is a democratic republic with a legaly elected government.

Yet, these people are risking their eyes, limbs and even lives and keep protesting.

Do you understand why? Can you, Canada, offer some explanation?


























agreed
USA
25 Dec 2018 4:40

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spot on moderator! Those Frenchies have had enough of massive control by their social democrat leaders those politicians have failed miserably and so have the leaders of the accn

who is Christ
Australia
25 Dec 2018 10:07

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to: LetsStandUpForChrist

you sound like the perfect person who will stand up for Christ...

thats beautiful to see.

Christ is righteousness or unrighteousness?

can you explain.......

if Christ is righteousness, then YOU must stand up for HIM.

can you give some occasions when you stood up in church to back up Christ and HIS righteousness please?

maybe, 5-6 examples would be enough.

many thanks

Standupforchrist
USA
25 Dec 2018 15:10

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I do mot stand up in church...I stand up for christ in the outreach I am doing...at workplace...teaching my kids...when things are hard to love I try to love. We will only answer for ourselves thankfully and not elders or ministers. God will judge not us.

who are we
Australia
25 Dec 2018 21:08

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You "SHOULD" stand up in church when you need to stand up for CHRIST. (Christ is head of the Church)

The Bible is clear in:
Isaiah 59:
14. And judgment is turned away backward, and justice standeth afar off: for truth is fallen in the street, and equity cannot enter.
15. Yea, truth faileth; and he that departeth from evil maketh himself a prey: and the Lord saw it, and it displeased him that there was no judgment.

"ALL" those who are scared to stand up in church, are the ones that are scared to be a prey for Christ's sake. Here, the truth only faileth.....

John 7:24 is clear:
Judge not according to the appearance, but judge righteous judgment.
This is a commandment.

agreed
USA
26 Dec 2018 15:02

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this comment is to letsstandupfor christ from Canada, so a classic line that i always hear in Nazarene churches is that Satan is laughing and has you all wrapped around his finger......satan is laughing??? LOL that sounds sooooo lame and absurd and childish, and primitive, if you study the bible Satan is a made up deity by early jews/Christians that has its origins as a jinn or genie, and I believe that Satan is not a real entity at all and we should not be scaring each other that it is real or even exists, belief in satan is superstition and primitive. Here is some info from the web to enlighten your mind and show you that this thing that you call satan evolved as religion had need of it

A figure first known as "the satan" first appears in the Jewish Tanakh as a heavenly prosecutor, a member of the sons of God subordinate to Yahweh, who prosecutes the nation of Judah, and tests the loyalty of Yahweh's followers by forcing them to suffer. During the intertestamental period possibly due to influence from the Zoroastrian figure of Angra Mainyu, "the satan" developed, into a malevolent entity with abhorrent qualities in opposition to God. In the apocryphal book of Jubilees, Yahweh grants the satan referred to as Mastema and had authority over a group of fallen angels to tempt humans to sin and to punish them. The book of Genesis does not mention him, and later in the middle ages Satan played a minimal role in Christian theology and was used as a comic relief figure in mystery plays. During the early modern period, satans significance greatly increased as beliefs such as demonic possession witchcraft and exorcism, became more prevalent During the age of enlightenment belief in the existence of Satan became harshly criticized. Nonetheless, belief in satan has persisted, particularly in the Americas.

So the next time you say satan is laughing make sure you do your homework and check if he exists or not because he certainly does not!

verses on satan
Australia
26 Dec 2018 18:00

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Luke 10:18
And he said unto them, I beheld Satan as lightning fall from heaven.

Matthew 16:23
But he turned, and said unto Peter, Get thee behind me, Satan: thou art an offence unto me: for thou savourest not the things that be of God, but those that be of men.

Revelation 12:9
And the great dragon was cast out, that old serpent, called the Devil, and Satan, which deceiveth the whole world: he was cast out into the earth, and his angels were cast out with him.

What the what??
USA
28 Dec 2018 9:16

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To the guy that says Satan is a made up figure.

Gtfoh..excuse my french.. But this has to be one of the stupidest comments on this entire website.

Practically everything you said is wrong. Bringing up certain books does not make it true and certainly will not invalidate the Bible and its record on Satan.

I personally have studied extensively Jewish teachings and the Kabbalah mysticism side of the Jewish teachings and heck, I can still sing many many of the songs associated with Hebrew prayers/Kabbalah prayers..and let me tell you my friend: you need to wake up from your slumber. You have -obviously- no idea what you're dealing with when you deny the very existence of Satan.
You should study more of Judaism to realize the sheer stupidity of your comments.

BTW I'm not an acc person. I'm a Christian.



LetsStandUpForChrist
Canada
19 Jan 2019 15:17

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I can't not believe this form.

Not even for a second.

Satan does laugh bc he wins everytime Christians bitter and create a form like this.

I hope you all can sleep peacefully.



people crying out
Australia
19 Jan 2019 16:33

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this is the Bible verses WHY people are CRYING out.....

Jude 1:3
Beloved, when I gave all diligence to write unto you of the common salvation, it was needful for me to write unto you, and exhort you that ye should earnestly contend for the faith which was once delivered unto the saints.

Isaiah 58:1
Cry aloud; do not hold back; lift up your voice like a trumpet; declare to my people their transgression, to the house of Jacob their sins.

Joel 2:
12. Therefore also now, saith the LORD, turn ye even to me with all your heart, and with fasting, and with weeping, and with mourning:
13. And rend your heart, and not your garments, and turn unto the LORD your God: for he is gracious and merciful, slow to anger, and of great kindness, and repenteth him of the evil.
14. Who knoweth if he will return and repent, and leave a blessing behind him; even a meat offering and a drink offering uto the LORD your God?
15. Blow the trumpet in Zion, sanctify a fast, call a solemn assembly:
16. Gather the people, sanctify the congregation, assemble the elders, gather the children, and those that suck the breasts: let the bridegroom go forth of his chamber, and the bride out of her closet.
17. Let the priests, the ministers of the LORD, weep between the porch and the altar, and let them say, Spare thy people, O LORD, and give not thine heritage to reproach, that the heathen should rule over them: wherefore should they say among the people, Where is their God?


rebuke / secret love
Australia
20 Jan 2019 1:41

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to dear: LetsStandUpForChrist

may you give us,hmmm, maybe 3 or 4 examples when you reminded your brother or sister of their sin?

this is a commandment from Jesus.

Matthew 18, verses: 15-17

15. Moreover if thy brother shall trespass against thee, go and tell him his fault between thee and him alone: if he shall hear thee, thou hast gained thy brother.
16. But if he will not hear thee, then take with thee one or two more, that in the mouth of two or three witnesses every word may be established.
17. And if he shall neglect to hear them, tell it unto the church: but if he neglect to hear the church, let him be unto thee as an heathen man and a publican.

what is open rebuke and what is secret love?



Unjust
USA
24 Jan 2019 4:08

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What do you do when you have a bad review online? Do you say, 'Let's stop this'? Even from the Bible standpoint, it tells you to step down from thy alter and make peace with your brother before going back up to preach.
The question the ACCN members should ask themselves is why does this website in existence?
By saying 'Satan is laughing at you' is a form of manipulation and is used to place fear on victims who have been unjustly abused by the ACCN leadership.
Also, most organizations try to contain the situation. It's called damage control. You don't ignore a problem (in hopes it will go away). Jesus stood up for the unjust. It's a shame that the members seem to ignore the unjust until it happens to them.


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Paul Pentsa
Brisbane
Janko Tomek
Melbourne
Andrew Szabo
Perth
Vlada Papuga
Melbourne
Philip Ruzeu
Melbourne
Nick Pentsa
Brisbane
Michael Stanjo
Melbourne
STAY AWAY FROM THIS MAN! His mouth is full of Biblical verses but his heart is filled with hatred, jealousy, treachery and lust for power. This FALSE CHRISTIAN is the root of almost all evil in ACCN in Australia and he will even take you to court, if he can't get his way.
Janko is pretty much like Paul, dishonest and unloving, just less intelligent. Janko is now building his humongous "warehouse" in Tarneit, destined to remain void of both faith and members. This UNREPENTED SINNER is still dreaming about becoming an elder!
Hard-hearted and egoistic, this long-time "elder" has caused immense grief, division and misery amongst the Nazarenes in Australia. Some even call him a sadist... not that Andrew really cares about anyone's opinion, though. Currently residing in a nursing home in Perth.
Earned his nickname by constantly repeating "Ljubazni" (Dear Ones) while preaching. This recently appointed "elder assistant" is ambitious, but at the same time not clever enough to realize he will always be just Paul's and Janko's messenger boy.
Philip is Paul Pentsa's son-in-law and definitely his best student. Proud, stubborn, arrogant - a classic bigot. Due to his off-putting personality and some weird beliefs, he's not on very good terms with Janko Tomek and other Slovaks in Tarneit.
Here is your future Elder, whether you like the idea or not. Nicky is "a very nice guy". No gift for preaching or leadership skills, but being Paul Pentsa's son, he's actually got everything he needs. Sooner or later his Dad will find the way to install him as his successor.
Janko Tomek's loyal admirer and bodyguard - sleazy, hypocritical, dishonest and ignorant. His interpretation of the Scriptures can make you laugh as well as his awkward sermons in broken English.


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