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ACCN Forum | Prayer for meeting

W from Can
Canada
2 Oct 2019 4:40

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This is hardly worth starting a new thread for but I'm wondering and maybe others are also

60 Hours of Continuous Prayer for the Elders: Oct. 17-19 @ Woodcliff Lake, NJ

This is what came to me in an email recently. That there should be continuous prayer from 3 a.m. on Thursday October 17th until Saturday October 19th at 5:30 p.m. For an upcoming elders meeting.

This is a recent phenomenon and comes across to me is very strange. I really wish to know who started it and why.


Are they making earth-shattering decisions lately that necessitate 60 hours of continuous prayer for this and last few meetings where it was also asked for 60 hours of continuous prayer

Are they starting to take themselves a little too seriously for what they do?

What exactly is everyone supposed to pray for? that they act like adults and get along? That they have the courage to stand up for what is really right?

Have the guts to finally give Pentsa and others the boot?

Seriously to wake up at 3 in the morning to pray for guys who some shouldn't be there and others don't have a clue what they're even doing? To pray for another mundane meeting? who the heck do they think they are?

Most of their meetings seem to produce a whole lot of nothing.

Is this 60 hours stuff for real?


I wonder if they still tape and release the meeting so the members can really know what's going on?



Yup
USA
2 Oct 2019 6:18

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I completely agree with this. They do the 60 hour thing every year and every year things continue to get worse while the elders ignore the Spirit and do what they want.

read these
Australia
2 Oct 2019 11:26

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Ezek.34:2
Son of man, prophesy against the shepherds of Israel, prophesy, and say unto them, Thus saith the Lord GOD unto the shepherds; Woe be to the shepherds of Israel that do feed themselves! should not the shepherds feed the flocks?

Jer.23:2
Therefore thus saith the LORD God of Israel against the pastors that feed my people; Ye have scattered my flock, and driven them away, and have not visited them: behold, I will visit upon you the evil of your doings, saith the LORD.



Disgusting
Australia
2 Oct 2019 13:44

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Instead of this hypocrisy the elders suppose to establish a FORUM to communicate plainly with the members. ,
The MEMBERS are the BODY of CHRIST !!! Not the elders .

This hypocrisy was created to mesmerize the naive -believers ... ; Who are believing in the Elders - Body ....but - not in GOD !!!!

If there are any true Christians among the Elders Body , they should open an E -mail number and direct phone number to have dialogue with them .

Why we have to pray for an Elders session ? Why can't we just talk to them to discuss our future ?

We don't need any secret decisions made "above" on us .

Please bear in mind , the Elders are voted by US and for US .

Why we should plead for the elders . They should be SERVANTS according to Bible not RULERS !!!!!!!.....

well said
Australia
2 Oct 2019 14:02

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to:
disgusting

very true comment

glad to see there ARE still people out there that ARE spiritually aware and awake on the bibles teachings on what and who the elders are towards the church.

well said.

Something wrong
Australia
2 Oct 2019 14:10

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Why do you prey and ask God to change the Elders mind ? ...

Are they above God ?????...

Why is the big distance, isolation and gap between members and elders ,that you should ask GOD to intervene ????

offended
USA
4 Oct 2019 23:06

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Let me get this straight they offend God's children, and then they ask you to pray for them.

For what?

So that they can continue to hurt the brothers and sisters?

I pray that God can open their eyes, but that is only if it is God's will.

we need to know this
Australia
5 Oct 2019 0:03

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2 Thess. 2:

4. Who opposeth and exalteth himself above all that is called God, or that is worshipped; so that he as God sitteth in the temple of God, shewing himself that he is God.

7. For the mystery of iniquity doth already work: only he who now letteth will let, until he be taken out of the way.

11. And for this cause God shall send them strong delusion, that they should believe a lie:

12. That they all might be damned who believed not the truth, but had pleasure in unrighteousness.

Elders rewards
Australia
5 Oct 2019 11:55

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Yes ," The fish smells from it's had " ....

There is not much difference between " Communism" and "Elder-ism"...
Both of them godless ...

The are hiding behind the barricade , firing to their own people and hiding again ... After requesting the people to praise them what they did...

The elders suppose to "supplicate" and pray" by themselves , and for themselves "for 60 hours continuously "-in God's present-,
, "hand in hand" because they were the ones who scattered the ships ,what God has gathered ...

The elders and pastors suppose to walk at the front of the flock to lead them and be the "humble examples" , not behind the flock with stick and count the dead ships...

The elders must be the responsible SERVANTS as good -shepherds and , so that God can reward them...This reward will be given to them in the Haven , not on the Earth .
Sorry they cannot earn it down in the earth ...

Why 3am?
USA
5 Oct 2019 12:56

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Why such an hour?

interesting verses
Australia
5 Oct 2019 13:24

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Isaiah 9:
14. Therefore the LORD will cut off from Israel head and tail, branch and rush, in one day.

15. The elder and honorable, he is the head; The prophet who teaches lies, he is the tail.

16. For the leaders of this people cause them to err; and they that are led of them are destroyed.



timing
Australia
5 Oct 2019 13:48

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-to why 3 am?
Yes , the timing is strange 3 o'clock early in the morning, but has to have some reason of it ...

Why is it starts in the middle of night . Why the timing is so important to them ?

Re timing
Canada
5 Oct 2019 16:35

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60 Hours of Continuous Prayer for the Elders meeting: Oct. 17-19 @ Woodcliff Lake, NJ : continuous prayer from 3 a.m. on Thursday October 17th until Saturday October 19th at 5:30 pm.

They want the prayers to be held the whole time they are in "session" (kind of like Congress or the US Supreme Court) and not end until 530pm on the Saturday when the "session" ends. Not sure where the 60 hour rule comes in or why but the math in wrong. Starting at 3am on Thursday, 60 hours later is 3pm on Saturday. So it's actually 62.5 hours.

Hmmmm...does that mean they are available to be reached with questions or concerns anytime after 3am. Somebody quick please get me Paul Pentsa's phone numbers - yep - all of them. I have some 'questions' and/or 'concerns'. Or maybe ask what he needs praying for?

paul pentsa
Australia
5 Oct 2019 17:42

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needs prayers for sincere repentance, confession and reconciliation for his sins.

Watchman
Australia
6 Oct 2019 9:13

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Paul Pentsa is not attending that meeting, actually, He is in Australia at the moment. You poor souls, you need something new to write about, this old stuff is boring, Like a broken record.So come up with something more edifying and uplifting.The prayers of a righteous man availed much! So if you claim to be so holy and righteous, use your time wisely and bring your prayers to God, yes even for your Elders that you seem to despise and mock.

help others
Australia
6 Oct 2019 23:58

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you edify and uplift by teaching us how we need to stand against the wiles of the devil in Church, even when elders approve the sin.

and

give 5 ways where and how you did it.

many thanks

please state:
- location
- church address
- issue in question
- how you stood up in church
- how did you fight the injustice
- how you succeeded with Gods help to overcome the injustice

thanks

Justice with God
USA
7 Oct 2019 11:59

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I have come to realize it a waste of time posting here. Nothing will be done about the criminal acts committed in this church by individuals with power. They support the activities, which makes them just as guilty as those who committed the acts.

Sometimes you have to walk away. Time will eventually catch up to these perpetrators, and justice is in God's hands.

I do hope that they will wake up and make it right. I also hope that anyone who believes the lies that these perpetrators say to justify their acts will think objectively and read some of the comments posted here.

Moderator, thank you for allowing me to post here.


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A B U S E R S  :  H A L L  O F  S H A M E 
Paul Pentsa
Brisbane
Janko Tomek
Melbourne
Andrew Szabo
Perth
Vlada Papuga
Melbourne
Philip Ruzeu
Melbourne
Nick Pentsa
Brisbane
Michael Stanjo
Melbourne
STAY AWAY FROM THIS MAN! His mouth is full of Biblical verses but his heart is filled with hatred, jealousy, treachery and lust for power. This FALSE CHRISTIAN is the root of almost all evil in ACCN in Australia and he will even take you to court, if he can't get his way.
Janko is pretty much like Paul, dishonest and unloving, just less intelligent. Janko is now building his humongous "warehouse" in Tarneit, destined to remain void of both faith and members. This UNREPENTED SINNER is still dreaming about becoming an elder!
Hard-hearted and egoistic, this long-time "elder" has caused immense grief, division and misery amongst the Nazarenes in Australia. Some even call him a sadist... not that Andrew really cares about anyone's opinion, though. Currently residing in a nursing home in Perth.
Earned his nickname by constantly repeating "Ljubazni" (Dear Ones) while preaching. This recently appointed "elder assistant" is ambitious, but at the same time not clever enough to realize he will always be just Paul's and Janko's messenger boy.
Philip is Paul Pentsa's son-in-law and definitely his best student. Proud, stubborn, arrogant - a classic bigot. Due to his off-putting personality and some weird beliefs, he's not on very good terms with Janko Tomek and other Slovaks in Tarneit.
Here is your future Elder, whether you like the idea or not. Nicky is "a very nice guy". No gift for preaching or leadership skills, but being Paul Pentsa's son, he's actually got everything he needs. Sooner or later his Dad will find the way to install him as his successor.
Janko Tomek's loyal admirer and bodyguard - sleazy, hypocritical, dishonest and ignorant. His interpretation of the Scriptures can make you laugh as well as his awkward sermons in broken English.


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