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W from Can
2 Oct 2019 4:40
This is hardly worth starting a new thread for but I'm wondering and maybe others are also

60 Hours of Continuous Prayer for the Elders: Oct. 17-19 @ Woodcliff Lake, NJ

This is what came to me in an email recently. That there should be continuous prayer from 3 a.m. on Thursday October 17th until Saturday October 19th at 5:30 p.m. For an upcoming elders meeting.

This is a recent phenomenon and comes across to me is very strange. I really wish to know who started it and why.

Are they making earth-shattering decisions lately that necessitate 60 hours of continuous prayer for this and last few meetings where it was also asked for 60 hours of continuous prayer

Are they starting to take themselves a little too seriously for what they do?

What exactly is everyone supposed to pray for? that they act like adults and get along? That they have the courage to stand up for what is really right?

Have the guts to finally give Pentsa and others the boot?

Seriously to wake up at 3 in the morning to pray for guys who some shouldn't be there and others don't have a clue what they're even doing? To pray for another mundane meeting? who the heck do they think they are?

Most of their meetings seem to produce a whole lot of nothing.

Is this 60 hours stuff for real?

I wonder if they still tape and release the meeting so the members can really know what's going on?

2 Oct 2019 6:18
I completely agree with this. They do the 60 hour thing every year and every year things continue to get worse while the elders ignore the Spirit and do what they want.

read these
2 Oct 2019 11:26
Son of man, prophesy against the shepherds of Israel, prophesy, and say unto them, Thus saith the Lord GOD unto the shepherds; Woe be to the shepherds of Israel that do feed themselves! should not the shepherds feed the flocks?

Therefore thus saith the LORD God of Israel against the pastors that feed my people; Ye have scattered my flock, and driven them away, and have not visited them: behold, I will visit upon you the evil of your doings, saith the LORD.

2 Oct 2019 13:44
Instead of this hypocrisy the elders suppose to establish a FORUM to communicate plainly with the members. ,
The MEMBERS are the BODY of CHRIST !!! Not the elders .

This hypocrisy was created to mesmerize the naive -believers ... ; Who are believing in the Elders - Body ....but - not in GOD !!!!

If there are any true Christians among the Elders Body , they should open an E -mail number and direct phone number to have dialogue with them .

Why we have to pray for an Elders session ? Why can't we just talk to them to discuss our future ?

We don't need any secret decisions made "above" on us .

Please bear in mind , the Elders are voted by US and for US .

Why we should plead for the elders . They should be SERVANTS according to Bible not RULERS !!!!!!!.....

well said
2 Oct 2019 14:02

very true comment

glad to see there ARE still people out there that ARE spiritually aware and awake on the bibles teachings on what and who the elders are towards the church.

well said.

Something wrong
2 Oct 2019 14:10
Why do you prey and ask God to change the Elders mind ? ...

Are they above God ?????...

Why is the big distance, isolation and gap between members and elders ,that you should ask GOD to intervene ????

4 Oct 2019 23:06
Let me get this straight they offend God's children, and then they ask you to pray for them.

For what?

So that they can continue to hurt the brothers and sisters?

I pray that God can open their eyes, but that is only if it is God's will.

we need to know this
5 Oct 2019 0:03
2 Thess. 2:

4. Who opposeth and exalteth himself above all that is called God, or that is worshipped; so that he as God sitteth in the temple of God, shewing himself that he is God.

7. For the mystery of iniquity doth already work: only he who now letteth will let, until he be taken out of the way.

11. And for this cause God shall send them strong delusion, that they should believe a lie:

12. That they all might be damned who believed not the truth, but had pleasure in unrighteousness.

Elders rewards
5 Oct 2019 11:55
Yes ," The fish smells from it's had " ....

There is not much difference between " Communism" and "Elder-ism"...
Both of them godless ...

The are hiding behind the barricade , firing to their own people and hiding again ... After requesting the people to praise them what they did...

The elders suppose to "supplicate" and pray" by themselves , and for themselves "for 60 hours continuously "-in God's present-,
, "hand in hand" because they were the ones who scattered the ships ,what God has gathered ...

The elders and pastors suppose to walk at the front of the flock to lead them and be the "humble examples" , not behind the flock with stick and count the dead ships...

The elders must be the responsible SERVANTS as good -shepherds and , so that God can reward them...This reward will be given to them in the Haven , not on the Earth .
Sorry they cannot earn it down in the earth ...

Why 3am?
5 Oct 2019 12:56
Why such an hour?

interesting verses
5 Oct 2019 13:24
Isaiah 9:
14. Therefore the LORD will cut off from Israel head and tail, branch and rush, in one day.

15. The elder and honorable, he is the head; The prophet who teaches lies, he is the tail.

16. For the leaders of this people cause them to err; and they that are led of them are destroyed.

5 Oct 2019 13:48
-to why 3 am?
Yes , the timing is strange 3 o'clock early in the morning, but has to have some reason of it ...

Why is it starts in the middle of night . Why the timing is so important to them ?

Re timing
5 Oct 2019 16:35
60 Hours of Continuous Prayer for the Elders meeting: Oct. 17-19 @ Woodcliff Lake, NJ : continuous prayer from 3 a.m. on Thursday October 17th until Saturday October 19th at 5:30 pm.

They want the prayers to be held the whole time they are in "session" (kind of like Congress or the US Supreme Court) and not end until 530pm on the Saturday when the "session" ends. Not sure where the 60 hour rule comes in or why but the math in wrong. Starting at 3am on Thursday, 60 hours later is 3pm on Saturday. So it's actually 62.5 hours.

Hmmmm...does that mean they are available to be reached with questions or concerns anytime after 3am. Somebody quick please get me Paul Pentsa's phone numbers - yep - all of them. I have some 'questions' and/or 'concerns'. Or maybe ask what he needs praying for?

paul pentsa
5 Oct 2019 17:42
needs prayers for sincere repentance, confession and reconciliation for his sins.

6 Oct 2019 9:13
Paul Pentsa is not attending that meeting, actually, He is in Australia at the moment. You poor souls, you need something new to write about, this old stuff is boring, Like a broken record.So come up with something more edifying and uplifting.The prayers of a righteous man availed much! So if you claim to be so holy and righteous, use your time wisely and bring your prayers to God, yes even for your Elders that you seem to despise and mock.

help others
6 Oct 2019 23:58
you edify and uplift by teaching us how we need to stand against the wiles of the devil in Church, even when elders approve the sin.


give 5 ways where and how you did it.

many thanks

please state:
- location
- church address
- issue in question
- how you stood up in church
- how did you fight the injustice
- how you succeeded with Gods help to overcome the injustice


Justice with God
7 Oct 2019 11:59
I have come to realize it a waste of time posting here. Nothing will be done about the criminal acts committed in this church by individuals with power. They support the activities, which makes them just as guilty as those who committed the acts.

Sometimes you have to walk away. Time will eventually catch up to these perpetrators, and justice is in God's hands.

I do hope that they will wake up and make it right. I also hope that anyone who believes the lies that these perpetrators say to justify their acts will think objectively and read some of the comments posted here.

Moderator, thank you for allowing me to post here.

25 Mar 2020 2:06
All of you should be ashamed for these posts and airing your griefs in such a public way. This website does not honour God, it brings Him shame. Would you like your faces to be plastered over the web with these types of defamatory remarks. Do unto others as you would have them do unto you. If you are indeed "True Christians" please take this site down.

25 Mar 2020 9:13
When elders are ordained,they get a triple portion of the holy spirit.
They are overseers of the flock (to take care of the people) so they need to pray for the church (people).

double portion
25 Mar 2020 11:07
It is written ' double honour to Elders who rule well '
Not all elders.. just those who rule well..


25 Mar 2020 12:31
To ordain an elder,why has to be 3 elders lay hands?

partly true
25 Mar 2020 22:06
They are overseers of the flock (to take care of the people) so they need to pray for the church (people).


but they want to be "LORDS" over Gods heritage, not servants to Gods heritage, thats why there are problems.

read for answer
25 Mar 2020 22:08
To ordain an elder,why has to be 3 elders lay hands?

no it doesnt have to be, but some tradition has entered in the church, that there is no biblical reason, that is known.

titus chapter 1, verse 5 states:

For this cause left I thee in Crete, that thou shouldest set in order the things that are wanting, and ordain elders in every city, as I had appointed thee:

apostle paul told titus to ordain elders......

titus is singular, and elders is referring to plural.

here one apostle ordained multiple elders.

more details please
26 Mar 2020 2:00

thanks for your comment.

we need people like you.

are you able to comment on an unbiblical issue at your church that you stood up to fight for justice in biblical way?

we would like to hear the issue in detail, on what was the problem, how you stood up, how did you react, how did you comment, what did you actually do, how did you use the bible to stand against the devils wiles in the church, how you stood against the devils desires of lies and filth....etc

we would like to hear from you please.

remember Jude 1:23

And others save with fear, pulling them out of the fire; hating even the garment spotted by the flesh.

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