Spiritual and Mental Abuse in Apostolic Christian Church Nazarene in Australia
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17 Dec 2019 14:31

I was reminded when I saw post on "Removal from book of life" of how bad acc teaching is can be. I was actually part of members meeting years ago when this happen in our church. This made me want to ask you: What is your favorite ACC false teaching or saying?

I will go first.

I was one time telling someone that ACC ministers says only ACC people are saved. Many say NOW that this is not true. It is funny, because a lot of people still think like this and it is the origin of the Nazareen faith.

My second is the "age of accountability." There is no such thing in bible or anywhere! Where did this false teaching come from? It shows much teaching is made up with no study of the bible.

What is your favourite saying or teaching that is wrong?

18 Dec 2019 3:30

A lot of really stupid and unscriptural questions and demands and promises are presented to converts when they give their testimony and go through some wacky approving procedures. and then supposedly the holy spirit will witness to everyone or anyone or some or almost all that this person is ready to be baptist. Some of the elders do such a boneheaded things like to try to exercise their comedic skills or show how delightfully witty they can be. It's like they're trying to make a name for themselves.

23 Dec 2019 18:30

Alright DK,

Here's one from the local ACCN from a few decades ago. It might still be the rule:'
"In Heaven there will of course be singing, but ONLY from the black book from ACCN, so absolutely no new songs allowed ever!"
My question was always how could anyone proclaim to know exactly what songs will be sung in Heaven?

Im not sure if this is still the rule.

Man made
24 Dec 2019 17:41

Baptism saves, works save, you can lose salvation, head coverings (what a joke), no jewellery, suits to church, no worldly music, lie ministers wouldn't allow TV's but they had monitors, girls can't wear pants, separate seating.

I know these are old, but they made up the original ACC doctrine. The church should make an official announcement that they on longer hold these teachings.

Oh and Paul, that guy used to give so many ladies a hard time for makeup and nail polish. Now his wife does it and he doesn't care. You should hang your head in shame.

The 2 by 4
28 Dec 2019 13:50

The 2 x 4" piece of fabric at ACCN, where a head covering is only nominal and doesn't actually cover the hair. It sends a strange message.

Worldly Pageants
28 Dec 2019 14:11

" Follow NOT the WORLD "

many acc follow and celebrate festivities of all kinds which are not Biblical...

Mothers Day, Fathers Day, Easter, Xmas - all dates followed are from the world, by the world and we are NOT OF THIS WORLD, we are followers of Jesus not of false religion celebrations -

20% enough?
28 Dec 2019 22:41

1 Corinth.11:15
.......for her hair is given her for a covering.


a 2" x 4" covers about 20% of the hair.......so thats 20% biblical correct......

1 Jn.2:15
Love not the world, neither the things that are in the world. If any man love the world, the love of the Father is not in him.

it cannot get much simpler.......

28 Dec 2019 22:50

So many negative, almost hateful comments. Why? Every church, every family and every person has so much repentance to do. Pray and watch. Every Church belongs to God. Don't make mockery of church, please

28 Dec 2019 23:02

Be sure; "Easter and Xmas" are paganistic. If you don't believe me watch from YouTube " Jim Staley Truth or Tradition HD Should Christians Celebrate Christmas and Easter Full." Please watch. Nazarene Church is right; it is wordly and paganistic.

Thank God
29 Dec 2019 7:52

King James Version
Let no man therefore judge you in meat, or in drink, or in respect of an holyday, or of the new moon, or of the sabbath days:

Not holy
29 Dec 2019 8:13

The key word is "holyday". Pagan holidays arent holy

Which Days?
29 Dec 2019 9:27

Everyone ENJOYS taking time off those Pagan holidays though. It is a form of basic partaking whether we like it or not.
One could also note that being in a supermarket that is filled with Christmas decorations etc....etc.. is also a little bit of partaking.
So, to point to everyone else but one's self is a little hypocritical and that is why that Scripture is there; Let no man judge you....etc....

our accountability

29 Dec 2019 23:24

being a partaker of the pagan is having in your heart or household, where you are and will be responsible and accountable to God on the last day.

what others have put up in shopping centers or governments allocating holidays, has nothing to do with those that do not partake in the error of those sins, nor will we be responsible or accountable for that to God on the last day.

30 Dec 2019 19:34

Aramaic Bible in Plain English
Let no man disturb you about food or about drink or in the distinctions of feasts and beginnings of months and Sabbaths.

31 Dec 2019 5:38

Having no problem allowing someone who has been "excommunicated" to work in the kitchen, clean, donate things to the church but they are not allowed to come in to watch their OWN CHILDS testimony and many other things. It doesnt seem to reflect God's love when we do this.

31 Dec 2019 5:56

To be fair though, the ACC does a lot of good and the word is preached. please excuse the rude tone of the previous message

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A B U S E R S  :  H A L L  O F  S H A M E 
Paul Pentsa
Janko Tomek
Andrew Szabo
Vlada Papuga
Philip Ruzeu
Nick Pentsa
Michael Stanjo
STAY AWAY FROM THIS MAN! His mouth is full of Biblical verses but his heart is filled with hatred, jealousy, treachery and lust for power. This FALSE CHRISTIAN is the root of almost all evil in ACCN in Australia and he will even take you to court, if he can't get his way.
Janko is pretty much like Paul, dishonest and unloving, just less intelligent. Janko is now building his humongous "warehouse" in Tarneit, destined to remain void of both faith and members. This UNREPENTED SINNER is still dreaming about becoming an elder!
Hard-hearted and egoistic, this long-time "elder" has caused immense grief, division and misery amongst the Nazarenes in Australia. Some even call him a sadist... not that Andrew really cares about anyone's opinion, though. Currently residing in a nursing home in Perth.
Earned his nickname by constantly repeating "Ljubazni" (Dear Ones) while preaching. This recently appointed "elder assistant" is ambitious, but at the same time not clever enough to realize he will always be just Paul's and Janko's messenger boy.
Philip is Paul Pentsa's son-in-law and definitely his best student. Proud, stubborn, arrogant - a classic bigot. Due to his off-putting personality and some weird beliefs, he's not on very good terms with Janko Tomek and other Slovaks in Tarneit.
Here is your future Elder, whether you like the idea or not. Nicky is "a very nice guy". No gift for preaching or leadership skills, but being Paul Pentsa's son, he's actually got everything he needs. Sooner or later his Dad will find the way to install him as his successor.
Janko Tomek's loyal admirer and bodyguard - sleazy, hypocritical, dishonest and ignorant. His interpretation of the Scriptures can make you laugh as well as his awkward sermons in broken English.

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