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be on high alert
Australia
Australia
8 Aug 2020 23:38
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re. sermon on Sunday August 2nd, 2020, by assistant elder, Janko Tomek...........last part of his sermon in English, in the afternoon sermon
brother Janko Tomek's comments were:
"many were in jail for the faith, for not sighing the oath, and for not accepting the weapons...."
(HOWEVER, you, dear brother Janko Tomek, had an opportunity and you DIDNT want to witness for the Lord Jesus, and suffer for his name. You accepted to be part of the Yugoslav communist government, by accepting to be part of their communist party. Having your red booklet filled in, updated and stamped was clear proof that you had given allegiance to the communist party via the government, while many brothers wanted to be in communion with God giving their vows to the Holy Spirit. People coming to the Lord Jesus MUST reject allegiance to the government or the communist party prior to baptism, which you did NOT do. Brothers that were imprisoned did not and were not able to be part of the communist party, nor did they have a validated red booklet, where you did have that to prove your stand against God, the Faith and the Nazarene Church doctrine. You had trodden the Nazarene Church doctrine under your feet by lying about it to the church and the elders, prior to your baptism).
"the older brother was a re-offender because God was not pleased with him"?
(What a load of rubbish, and deceit from hell and from the devil. Everyone that was in prison for the faith of Jesus Christ, was a servant and sufferer of Jesus Christ, for Jesus Christ, (regardless of how many times he was able to prove and testify that he will not bow down to the governments orders) but you were NOT a servant of Jesus Christ. You wanted to remain a servant to the Yugoslav Government, and a servant of the Communist Party, having your red booklet to prove your continual allegiance to them, not repenting from that grave sin prior to your baptism).
"the older brother was a repeat offender, because he didn't obey the government...."
(What are you trying to prove here? That he should have obeyed the first time he was conscripted? Because he would not have been conscripted the second time!! He WAS supposed to disobey the government, because the Government requested the brothers to go contrary to Gods Word, that was why they were imprisoned. Who are you trying to deceive here? We MUST disobey the Government in EVERY way its contrary to Gods word).
"you commented that God was not pleased with him, and that's why he was in prison the second time"
(.....what blasphemy!!......he continued to disobey the Government, and continued to obey Gods word, that's why he was in prison the second time. But this is what GOD'S will is!! We MUST disobey the Governments when they are going against Gods Word. What is your point here, brother Janko? Are you stating he wasn't supposed to disobey the Governments? Are you stating that he was in fault for being in prison the second time? He continued to be a Christian and remained a Christian, loyal to God, and disloyal to the communist party and Yugoslav government, that's why he was persecuted. He lived a life Holy in Gods eyes, that's why he was and many were persecuted, in which you were afraid to be persecuted, because you were not born again in your heart, and chose not to live a Holy life)
You are attempting to show the Sunday school children that you are a servant of Jesus Christ? .........what baloney!! ....you are a HYPOCRITE!!
You didn't testify before the Yugoslav Government what God requires from His servants in time of persecution, nor were you willing to suffer for Jesus Christ.
You gave in to deceit and manipulation to the church and elders, that you are not part of the communist party, but you had lied in a nice way, saying you don't have the red booklet (probably not with you in your pocket, at that time when you were asked, nor currently with you at your home at the time of your baptism, because you had requested the communists to have it posted out so it can arrive after your baptismal Sunday.....etc....what deceit from the devil and from hell that you had in your heart even back then.......why are we surprised about your actions today???
brother Janko Tomek's comments were:
"many were in jail for the faith, for not sighing the oath, and for not accepting the weapons...."
(HOWEVER, you, dear brother Janko Tomek, had an opportunity and you DIDNT want to witness for the Lord Jesus, and suffer for his name. You accepted to be part of the Yugoslav communist government, by accepting to be part of their communist party. Having your red booklet filled in, updated and stamped was clear proof that you had given allegiance to the communist party via the government, while many brothers wanted to be in communion with God giving their vows to the Holy Spirit. People coming to the Lord Jesus MUST reject allegiance to the government or the communist party prior to baptism, which you did NOT do. Brothers that were imprisoned did not and were not able to be part of the communist party, nor did they have a validated red booklet, where you did have that to prove your stand against God, the Faith and the Nazarene Church doctrine. You had trodden the Nazarene Church doctrine under your feet by lying about it to the church and the elders, prior to your baptism).
"the older brother was a re-offender because God was not pleased with him"?
(What a load of rubbish, and deceit from hell and from the devil. Everyone that was in prison for the faith of Jesus Christ, was a servant and sufferer of Jesus Christ, for Jesus Christ, (regardless of how many times he was able to prove and testify that he will not bow down to the governments orders) but you were NOT a servant of Jesus Christ. You wanted to remain a servant to the Yugoslav Government, and a servant of the Communist Party, having your red booklet to prove your continual allegiance to them, not repenting from that grave sin prior to your baptism).
"the older brother was a repeat offender, because he didn't obey the government...."
(What are you trying to prove here? That he should have obeyed the first time he was conscripted? Because he would not have been conscripted the second time!! He WAS supposed to disobey the government, because the Government requested the brothers to go contrary to Gods Word, that was why they were imprisoned. Who are you trying to deceive here? We MUST disobey the Government in EVERY way its contrary to Gods word).
"you commented that God was not pleased with him, and that's why he was in prison the second time"
(.....what blasphemy!!......he continued to disobey the Government, and continued to obey Gods word, that's why he was in prison the second time. But this is what GOD'S will is!! We MUST disobey the Governments when they are going against Gods Word. What is your point here, brother Janko? Are you stating he wasn't supposed to disobey the Governments? Are you stating that he was in fault for being in prison the second time? He continued to be a Christian and remained a Christian, loyal to God, and disloyal to the communist party and Yugoslav government, that's why he was persecuted. He lived a life Holy in Gods eyes, that's why he was and many were persecuted, in which you were afraid to be persecuted, because you were not born again in your heart, and chose not to live a Holy life)
You are attempting to show the Sunday school children that you are a servant of Jesus Christ? .........what baloney!! ....you are a HYPOCRITE!!
You didn't testify before the Yugoslav Government what God requires from His servants in time of persecution, nor were you willing to suffer for Jesus Christ.
You gave in to deceit and manipulation to the church and elders, that you are not part of the communist party, but you had lied in a nice way, saying you don't have the red booklet (probably not with you in your pocket, at that time when you were asked, nor currently with you at your home at the time of your baptism, because you had requested the communists to have it posted out so it can arrive after your baptismal Sunday.....etc....what deceit from the devil and from hell that you had in your heart even back then.......why are we surprised about your actions today???
to all parents
Australia
Australia
8 Aug 2020 23:40
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ATTENTION ALL PARENTS THAT HAVE CHILDREN AT MOUNT COTTRELL:
STAY AWAY FROM BROTHER JANKO TOMEK
DO NOT ALLOW YOUR CHILDREN TO BE CLOSE TO BROTHER JANKO TOMEK
AVOID BROTHER JANKO TOMEK
BROTHER JANKO TOMEK IS A DECIVEFUL WORKER OF EVIL, LIES, SWEAT TALKER, MANIPULATES THE WORD OF GOD IN A EVIL WAY TO ALLOW SIN
BROTHER JANKO TOMEK THROUGH COVETOUSNESS AND WITH FEIGNED WORDS WANTS TO MAKE MERCANDISE OF YOU AND YOUR CHILDREN
The Bible teaches VERY clearly what servants and ministering brothers' actions should and should not be:
Deuteronomy 17:20
That his heart be not lifted up above his brethren,............
(this is what brother janko DID, DOES, and WILL DO, until the church and elder brother paul pentsa removes him from being an elder assistant)
Deuteronomy 17:26
But he shall not multiply horses to himself, nor cause the people to return to Egypt,..........
(brother janko tomek "IS" causing and "IS" teaching people to return to egypt (returning to the bondage to sin), with his comment to the sunday school children in his sermon on August 2nd, by going against the brothers that suffered for Jesus Christ by being imprisoned for the Faith of Jesus Christ)
blasphemy means:
something that you say and or do, that shows and indicates that you do not respect God, His Church or His Faith
Matthew 12:32
And whosoever speaketh a word against the Son of man, it shall be forgiven him: but whosoever speaketh against the Holy Ghost, it shall not be forgiven him, neither in this world, neither in the world to come.
STAY AWAY FROM BROTHER JANKO TOMEK
DO NOT ALLOW YOUR CHILDREN TO BE CLOSE TO BROTHER JANKO TOMEK
AVOID BROTHER JANKO TOMEK
BROTHER JANKO TOMEK IS A DECIVEFUL WORKER OF EVIL, LIES, SWEAT TALKER, MANIPULATES THE WORD OF GOD IN A EVIL WAY TO ALLOW SIN
BROTHER JANKO TOMEK THROUGH COVETOUSNESS AND WITH FEIGNED WORDS WANTS TO MAKE MERCANDISE OF YOU AND YOUR CHILDREN
The Bible teaches VERY clearly what servants and ministering brothers' actions should and should not be:
Deuteronomy 17:20
That his heart be not lifted up above his brethren,............
(this is what brother janko DID, DOES, and WILL DO, until the church and elder brother paul pentsa removes him from being an elder assistant)
Deuteronomy 17:26
But he shall not multiply horses to himself, nor cause the people to return to Egypt,..........
(brother janko tomek "IS" causing and "IS" teaching people to return to egypt (returning to the bondage to sin), with his comment to the sunday school children in his sermon on August 2nd, by going against the brothers that suffered for Jesus Christ by being imprisoned for the Faith of Jesus Christ)
blasphemy means:
something that you say and or do, that shows and indicates that you do not respect God, His Church or His Faith
Matthew 12:32
And whosoever speaketh a word against the Son of man, it shall be forgiven him: but whosoever speaketh against the Holy Ghost, it shall not be forgiven him, neither in this world, neither in the world to come.
Mr Snako Tomek
Australia
Australia
9 Aug 2020 14:06
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To your few followers to whom you preach and pray, perhaps you need to explain why 2 August preaching has been wiped and 2 Aug preaching appears as todays preaching 9 August!!! Or is it because of the above posts?
COnfused
USA
USA
9 Aug 2020 15:11
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What exactly does this mean? How is this relevant Please explain it simply and in context. Im not trying to be difficult or rude.. i just genuinly want to know what this situation is
double check
Australia
Australia
9 Aug 2020 16:09
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re.
To your few followers to whom you preach and pray, perhaps you need to explain why 2 August preaching has been wiped and 2 Aug preaching appears as todays preaching 9 August!!! Or is it because of the above posts?
the sermon on August 2 is on the accn website of mount cotrrell
To your few followers to whom you preach and pray, perhaps you need to explain why 2 August preaching has been wiped and 2 Aug preaching appears as todays preaching 9 August!!! Or is it because of the above posts?
the sermon on August 2 is on the accn website of mount cotrrell
very clear
Australia
Australia
9 Aug 2020 22:53
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the situation is clear, that he is a so-called assistant elder is attempting to indicate to the members of his church, parents with children, AND to the sunday school that he is holy, godly and has care towards them all, BUT the case is false.
his desire is COMPLETELY different to what he expresses in his words and sermons.
why?
because the Bible is true.
The Bible teaches us that you will know people by their fruits, not by their words, sermons of sweet talk, or attempts of discipline for disobeying him.
Matthew 7:
16 Ye shall know them by their fruits. Do men gather grapes of thorns, or figs of thistles?
17 Even so every good tree bringeth forth good fruit; but a corrupt tree bringeth forth evil fruit.
18 A good tree cannot bring forth evil fruit, neither can a corrupt tree bring forth good fruit.
Those that are awake spiritually can see this, but sad to say, many do not see this, choose not to see this, and do not want to realise fact.
his desire is COMPLETELY different to what he expresses in his words and sermons.
why?
because the Bible is true.
The Bible teaches us that you will know people by their fruits, not by their words, sermons of sweet talk, or attempts of discipline for disobeying him.
Matthew 7:
16 Ye shall know them by their fruits. Do men gather grapes of thorns, or figs of thistles?
17 Even so every good tree bringeth forth good fruit; but a corrupt tree bringeth forth evil fruit.
18 A good tree cannot bring forth evil fruit, neither can a corrupt tree bring forth good fruit.
Those that are awake spiritually can see this, but sad to say, many do not see this, choose not to see this, and do not want to realise fact.
he hates the light
Australia
Australia
10 Aug 2020 11:19
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Elder assistant, Brother Janko Tomek fits in this category.
but
MANY still choose not to accept this and make a move to remove such evil deceivers in the ACCN Church.
St.John 3:20
For every one that doeth evil hateth the light, neither cometh to the light, lest his deeds should be reproved.
but
MANY still choose not to accept this and make a move to remove such evil deceivers in the ACCN Church.
St.John 3:20
For every one that doeth evil hateth the light, neither cometh to the light, lest his deeds should be reproved.
Red Book?
USA
USA
10 Aug 2020 11:49
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Nobody cares about the Communist Party and the red book. My friend this is 2020 and you are living in the past!
For with what judgment ye judge, ye shall be judged: and with what measure ye mete, it shall be measured to you again.
And why beholdest thou the mote that is in thy brother's eye, but considerest not the beam that is in thine own eye?
Or how wilt thou say to thy brother, Let me pull out the mote out of thine eye; and, behold, a beam is in thine own eye?
Thou hypocrite, first cast out the beam out of thine own eye; and then shalt thou see clearly to cast out the mote out of thy brother's eye.
For with what judgment ye judge, ye shall be judged: and with what measure ye mete, it shall be measured to you again.
And why beholdest thou the mote that is in thy brother's eye, but considerest not the beam that is in thine own eye?
Or how wilt thou say to thy brother, Let me pull out the mote out of thine eye; and, behold, a beam is in thine own eye?
Thou hypocrite, first cast out the beam out of thine own eye; and then shalt thou see clearly to cast out the mote out of thy brother's eye.
sad to hear
Australia
Australia
10 Aug 2020 11:55
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re.
For with what judgment ye judge, ye shall be judged: and with what measure ye mete, it shall be measured to you again.
yes, very true.
i was not part of the communist part, am not, and will never be.
if i was then i would be judged accordingly.
re.
And why beholdest thou the mote that is in thy brother's eye, but considerest not the beam that is in thine own eye?
this is not a mote, but a grave sin in question.
dont justify the wicked, its an abomination to the Lord.
Proversb 17:15
He who justifies the wicked and he who condemns the righteous
are both alike an abomination to the Lord.
dont cover up janko tomeks sins of the past that have not be confessed, because whatever has not been confessed is still current, active and present.
the past confessed and repented sins should not be mentioned, but this is not the case.
do not support sin, as you will be condemned with janko.
God cares about the communist party, thats why he condemned it, and it came to an end, but those that were part of a movement that does not believe in God, is godly?
you seem to not worry about this ungodly movement?
do you have a sensitiviy towards sin?
hmmmm, doesnt seem like it....
For with what judgment ye judge, ye shall be judged: and with what measure ye mete, it shall be measured to you again.
yes, very true.
i was not part of the communist part, am not, and will never be.
if i was then i would be judged accordingly.
re.
And why beholdest thou the mote that is in thy brother's eye, but considerest not the beam that is in thine own eye?
this is not a mote, but a grave sin in question.
dont justify the wicked, its an abomination to the Lord.
Proversb 17:15
He who justifies the wicked and he who condemns the righteous
are both alike an abomination to the Lord.
dont cover up janko tomeks sins of the past that have not be confessed, because whatever has not been confessed is still current, active and present.
the past confessed and repented sins should not be mentioned, but this is not the case.
do not support sin, as you will be condemned with janko.
God cares about the communist party, thats why he condemned it, and it came to an end, but those that were part of a movement that does not believe in God, is godly?
you seem to not worry about this ungodly movement?
do you have a sensitiviy towards sin?
hmmmm, doesnt seem like it....
dont promote sin
Australia
Australia
10 Aug 2020 12:55
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don't promote sin, especially if it hasn't been repented of or confessed
and
plus, janko tomek is misleading the young in the wrong, evil and sinful direction, and leading away from an important foundation of the Nazarene Church
the bible tells us:
2 Corinth.2:11
Lest Satan should get an advantage of us: for we are not ignorant of his devices.
most people are not ignorant of the devises of janko tomek, but some are still ignorant.....
and
plus, janko tomek is misleading the young in the wrong, evil and sinful direction, and leading away from an important foundation of the Nazarene Church
the bible tells us:
2 Corinth.2:11
Lest Satan should get an advantage of us: for we are not ignorant of his devices.
most people are not ignorant of the devises of janko tomek, but some are still ignorant.....
can we guess
Australia
Australia
10 Aug 2020 17:26
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to: red book?
are your initials JD or MD maybe??
are your initials JD or MD maybe??
Grave Sin?
USA
USA
11 Aug 2020 0:10
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It is a grave sin if one was part of the Communist party prior to repentance? Did you see the sunrise this morning? Did God give you the breath of live today?
Brethren...whatsoever things are pure, whatsoever things are lovely, whatsoever things are of good report; if there be any virtue, and if there be any praise, think on these things
Brethren...whatsoever things are pure, whatsoever things are lovely, whatsoever things are of good report; if there be any virtue, and if there be any praise, think on these things
you are in hot water
Australia
Australia
11 Aug 2020 1:14
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the sun did not rise in the life of janko tomek, dear friend....
janko was suppose to repent from that sin of giving allegiance to the communist party, but he didnt.
janko was suppose to confess that sin of giving allegiance to the communist party, but he didnt.
this is the point in question here, dear fellow.....
the bible is clear:
john 3:
3. Jesus answered and said unto him, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born again, he cannot see the kingdom of God.
5. Jesus answered, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born of water and of the Spirit, he cannot enter into the kingdom of God.
was he born again?
only if he repented and confessed his sins.
promoting sin leads people to the devil.
this is what janko is doing, by his comments.
firstly, he gave alligance to the communist government.
secondly, he didnt repent from that.
thirdly, he was baptised under these conditons, rather then confessing that sin, and repenting from that sin.
and
many years later, he is promoting his sin (that he didnt repent from nor confess), by de-grading the suffering of hundreds of brothers that suffered for the name of jesus christ.
and
you are trying to back janko.
why?
who are you?
and
what are your efforts here?
were you born again?
stop supporting life in sin.
stop supporting living an ungodly life.
stop supporting janko's actions of pure filth.
janko was suppose to repent from that sin of giving allegiance to the communist party, but he didnt.
janko was suppose to confess that sin of giving allegiance to the communist party, but he didnt.
this is the point in question here, dear fellow.....
the bible is clear:
john 3:
3. Jesus answered and said unto him, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born again, he cannot see the kingdom of God.
5. Jesus answered, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born of water and of the Spirit, he cannot enter into the kingdom of God.
was he born again?
only if he repented and confessed his sins.
promoting sin leads people to the devil.
this is what janko is doing, by his comments.
firstly, he gave alligance to the communist government.
secondly, he didnt repent from that.
thirdly, he was baptised under these conditons, rather then confessing that sin, and repenting from that sin.
and
many years later, he is promoting his sin (that he didnt repent from nor confess), by de-grading the suffering of hundreds of brothers that suffered for the name of jesus christ.
and
you are trying to back janko.
why?
who are you?
and
what are your efforts here?
were you born again?
stop supporting life in sin.
stop supporting living an ungodly life.
stop supporting janko's actions of pure filth.
read for yourself
Australia
Australia
11 Aug 2020 1:19
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.....if you want to accept the truth.
judges 2:
2. And ye shall make no league with the inhabitants of this land;......
2 corinthians 6
14. Be ye not unequally yoked together with unbelievers: for what fellowship hath righteousness with unrighteousness? and what communion hath light with darkness?
15. And what concord hath Christ with Belial? or what part hath he that believeth with an infidel?
16. And what agreement hath the temple of God with idols? for ye are the temple of the living God; as God hath said, I will dwell in them, and walk in them; and I will be their God, and they shall be my people.
17. Wherefore come out from among them, and be ye separate, saith the Lord, and touch not the unclean thing; and I will receive you.
judges 2:
2. And ye shall make no league with the inhabitants of this land;......
2 corinthians 6
14. Be ye not unequally yoked together with unbelievers: for what fellowship hath righteousness with unrighteousness? and what communion hath light with darkness?
15. And what concord hath Christ with Belial? or what part hath he that believeth with an infidel?
16. And what agreement hath the temple of God with idols? for ye are the temple of the living God; as God hath said, I will dwell in them, and walk in them; and I will be their God, and they shall be my people.
17. Wherefore come out from among them, and be ye separate, saith the Lord, and touch not the unclean thing; and I will receive you.
only option
Australia
Australia
17 Aug 2020 10:51
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.......is to repent dear elder assistant!!
it seems quite evident that janko is quite upset of the comments posted here about his unrepentant status....
we hope and pray that janko doesn't spend time attempting to locate who is posting these comments (through many people and many ways), as this will not bring inner peace to his soul.
we hope and pray that he repents and confesses his errors of sin, as this WILL bring inner peace and security for his eternal life.....
don't spend time to manipulate your sweet talk and pretended deceitful words to locate who is posting these comments.
your attempts to hide has failed, is failing and will only fail, until you choose to change from your sinful actions
sincere and genuine confession and repentance brings inner peace with Jesus Christ, and your communion with Gods Spirit
it seems quite evident that janko is quite upset of the comments posted here about his unrepentant status....
we hope and pray that janko doesn't spend time attempting to locate who is posting these comments (through many people and many ways), as this will not bring inner peace to his soul.
we hope and pray that he repents and confesses his errors of sin, as this WILL bring inner peace and security for his eternal life.....
don't spend time to manipulate your sweet talk and pretended deceitful words to locate who is posting these comments.
your attempts to hide has failed, is failing and will only fail, until you choose to change from your sinful actions
sincere and genuine confession and repentance brings inner peace with Jesus Christ, and your communion with Gods Spirit
"DID YOU?"
USA
USA
17 Aug 2020 14:16
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Do you realize that Janko could very easily ask for a members meeting in Melbourne and go from member to member asking if they wrote what they did? This HAS been practiced in the past. Whoever lies during this public meeting would answer to God and be in grave sin. So instead of posting, perhaps its better to tell him to his face. Otherwise you will be in hot water too. Manipulative people would do such a thing as hold this type of thing. I believe this was practiced in the old country as well, someone who knows can chime in.
Moderator
Australia
Australia
17 Aug 2020 14:29
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>>Do you realize that Janko could very easily ask for a members meeting in Melbourne and go from member to member asking if they wrote what they did?
You should simply say, brother Janko, that's not your business.
You should simply say, brother Janko, that's not your business.
fear man? no way!
Australia
Australia
17 Aug 2020 18:00
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with some, there is no other option available.
with some, they have not left any other option available.
with some, things need to be dealt with very severley for their open rebellion, open sinning (but trying to hide it), open deceit (but trying to smile to cover up their sin)...and the list goes on.
every one that FEARS the discipline that is man made and man implemented, should read the following words slowly at least a number of times:
Revelation 21:8
But the fearful, and unbelieving, and the abominable, and murderers, and whoremongers, and sorcerers, and idolaters, and all liars, shall have their part in the lake which burneth with fire and brimstone: which is the second death.
can you make note of the first one mentioned....."but the fearful"
with some, they have not left any other option available.
with some, things need to be dealt with very severley for their open rebellion, open sinning (but trying to hide it), open deceit (but trying to smile to cover up their sin)...and the list goes on.
every one that FEARS the discipline that is man made and man implemented, should read the following words slowly at least a number of times:
Revelation 21:8
But the fearful, and unbelieving, and the abominable, and murderers, and whoremongers, and sorcerers, and idolaters, and all liars, shall have their part in the lake which burneth with fire and brimstone: which is the second death.
can you make note of the first one mentioned....."but the fearful"
be aware
Australia
Australia
17 Aug 2020 18:02
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matt 24:4
what were the first words of Jesus:
And Jesus answered and said unto them, Take heed that no man deceive you...........
what were the first words of Jesus:
And Jesus answered and said unto them, Take heed that no man deceive you...........
fear God not man
Australia
Australia
17 Aug 2020 18:04
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Hebrews 13:6
Hence we can confidently say, “The Lord is my helper; I will not be afraid. What can anyone do to me?”
Luke 12:4-5
“My friends, I can guarantee that you don’t need to be afraid of those who kill the body. After that they can’t do anything more. I’ll show you the one you should be afraid of. Be afraid of the one who has the power to throw you into hell after killing you. I’m warning you to be afraid of him.
Hence we can confidently say, “The Lord is my helper; I will not be afraid. What can anyone do to me?”
Luke 12:4-5
“My friends, I can guarantee that you don’t need to be afraid of those who kill the body. After that they can’t do anything more. I’ll show you the one you should be afraid of. Be afraid of the one who has the power to throw you into hell after killing you. I’m warning you to be afraid of him.
good point
Australia
Australia
17 Aug 2020 18:10
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re.
Do you realize that Janko could very easily ask for a members meeting in Melbourne and go from member to member asking if they wrote what they did? This HAS been practiced in the past. Whoever lies during this public meeting would answer to God and be in grave sin.
why is it only a grave sin if somebody lies during a members meeting?
is it not a sin when janko lied that he is not part of the communist party when he still was (prior to his baptism) (that he needed to repent from, which he didnt)?
does it matter what you lie about or when you lie about it?
it is sin every time, and for anyone and for everyone.
there is no exceptions that lying is sometimes allowed.
seems like it is partially with you that commented it that way...
as if only then its a sin....
well, it seems clear, that you may be the perect person that needs to contact janko and explain the biblical reasoning that lying is a sin.
and
please do, because he hasnt accepted any admonishment from anyone else, so far, and maybe he will accept it from you.
do explain that he needs to confess his sins before the congregation, and accept the disciline the church applies upon him for his error of sin.
many thanks
Do you realize that Janko could very easily ask for a members meeting in Melbourne and go from member to member asking if they wrote what they did? This HAS been practiced in the past. Whoever lies during this public meeting would answer to God and be in grave sin.
why is it only a grave sin if somebody lies during a members meeting?
is it not a sin when janko lied that he is not part of the communist party when he still was (prior to his baptism) (that he needed to repent from, which he didnt)?
does it matter what you lie about or when you lie about it?
it is sin every time, and for anyone and for everyone.
there is no exceptions that lying is sometimes allowed.
seems like it is partially with you that commented it that way...
as if only then its a sin....
well, it seems clear, that you may be the perect person that needs to contact janko and explain the biblical reasoning that lying is a sin.
and
please do, because he hasnt accepted any admonishment from anyone else, so far, and maybe he will accept it from you.
do explain that he needs to confess his sins before the congregation, and accept the disciline the church applies upon him for his error of sin.
many thanks
does truth hurt
Australia
Australia
17 Aug 2020 18:34
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if janko asks you 'whether you wrote the post comments on the website', you shouldn't lie, as lying is a sin.
but
you don't have to answer him either.
that is not his business.
his business is to repent from that sin and confess that sin.
janko will not give an account before God on the comments that someone wrote about him thats false.
janko will give an account before God if janko lies, and does not repent and confess that sin.
the bible teaches us in:
Titus 3:9
But avoid foolish questions, and genealogies, and contentions, and strivings about the law; for they are unprofitable and vain.
we are not obliged to answer every question that anyone asks us.
plus
why would this bother him, if its not true?
it can and will only bother him if its true.
but
you don't have to answer him either.
that is not his business.
his business is to repent from that sin and confess that sin.
janko will not give an account before God on the comments that someone wrote about him thats false.
janko will give an account before God if janko lies, and does not repent and confess that sin.
the bible teaches us in:
Titus 3:9
But avoid foolish questions, and genealogies, and contentions, and strivings about the law; for they are unprofitable and vain.
we are not obliged to answer every question that anyone asks us.
plus
why would this bother him, if its not true?
it can and will only bother him if its true.
nothing to fear
Australia
Australia
17 Aug 2020 20:58
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to "DID YOU?"
Regarding your comment:
Do you realize that Janko could very easily ask for a members meeting in Melbourne and go from member to member asking if they wrote what they did? This HAS been practiced in the past. Whoever lies during this public meeting would answer to God and be in grave sin.
Ofcourse he could do that..............and?
Whats the problem with this?
The church can then question Assistant Elder Janko whether its true whats been posted about him?
and
The church can then question the ministers whether they suppose Brother Janko in this as well?
Many members from Altona and Mount Cottrell now his past.
and
Brother Janko could question everyone individually at Sydney Church, Marsden, Adelaide, Altona Church if he likes as well, and even the Friends, the Sunday School Children as well.
Regarding your comment:
Do you realize that Janko could very easily ask for a members meeting in Melbourne and go from member to member asking if they wrote what they did? This HAS been practiced in the past. Whoever lies during this public meeting would answer to God and be in grave sin.
Ofcourse he could do that..............and?
Whats the problem with this?
The church can then question Assistant Elder Janko whether its true whats been posted about him?
and
The church can then question the ministers whether they suppose Brother Janko in this as well?
Many members from Altona and Mount Cottrell now his past.
and
Brother Janko could question everyone individually at Sydney Church, Marsden, Adelaide, Altona Church if he likes as well, and even the Friends, the Sunday School Children as well.
give an answer
Australia
Australia
17 Aug 2020 21:01
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to
"DID YOU"
whats your stand on this issue?
1). do you agree with Assistant Elder Janko Tomek, in contining in being a member of the Communist Party, that he didnt repent from?
or
2). do you agree that he shouldnt continue to be a member of the Communist Party?
What is your belief on this?
"DID YOU"
whats your stand on this issue?
1). do you agree with Assistant Elder Janko Tomek, in contining in being a member of the Communist Party, that he didnt repent from?
or
2). do you agree that he shouldnt continue to be a member of the Communist Party?
What is your belief on this?
please clarify fully
Australia
Australia
17 Aug 2020 23:12
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to dear "DID YOU"
so nice of you to comment from all the way out there in the US.
re.
.......I believe this was practiced in the old country as well, someone who knows can chime in.
yes, it was indead practised in the old country as well, but that does not allow nor justify anyone remaining a member of the communist party prior to their conversion to Christ.
please clarify the whole truth in your comments against the sin in question here....
so nice of you to comment from all the way out there in the US.
re.
.......I believe this was practiced in the old country as well, someone who knows can chime in.
yes, it was indead practised in the old country as well, but that does not allow nor justify anyone remaining a member of the communist party prior to their conversion to Christ.
please clarify the whole truth in your comments against the sin in question here....
somethings odd
Australia
Australia
18 Aug 2020 23:07
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Isnt it rather interesting that "DID YOU" isnt coming back to comment and answer the questions above???
When its siding with an elder or assistant elder, they always seem to be in the right, regardless, and hard to realise fact when proven wrong. (Many members believe that because they are annointed twice, they are without error and cannot sin, and MUST be in the right every single time.....)
and
All the elders' and assistant elders' unconditional supporters are always there to show up, but, when the two edged sword is used, they run away, and or dont show up to answer......
Its obvious how serious our accountability is before God, knowing that we will all stand before the judgement seat of Christ, and will give an account of our lives before Him....
Alot of people forget these Biblical verses:
Proverbs chapter 17, verse 15
He that justifieth the wicked, and he that condemneth the just, even they both are abomination to the LORD.
and
Ecclesiastes chapter 8, verse 11
When the sentence for a crime is not quickly carried out, people's hearts are filled with schemes to do wrong.
(maybe "DID YOU" might come back when they read this comment) :)
When its siding with an elder or assistant elder, they always seem to be in the right, regardless, and hard to realise fact when proven wrong. (Many members believe that because they are annointed twice, they are without error and cannot sin, and MUST be in the right every single time.....)
and
All the elders' and assistant elders' unconditional supporters are always there to show up, but, when the two edged sword is used, they run away, and or dont show up to answer......
Its obvious how serious our accountability is before God, knowing that we will all stand before the judgement seat of Christ, and will give an account of our lives before Him....
Alot of people forget these Biblical verses:
Proverbs chapter 17, verse 15
He that justifieth the wicked, and he that condemneth the just, even they both are abomination to the LORD.
and
Ecclesiastes chapter 8, verse 11
When the sentence for a crime is not quickly carried out, people's hearts are filled with schemes to do wrong.
(maybe "DID YOU" might come back when they read this comment) :)
"DID YOU?"
USA
USA
19 Aug 2020 0:01
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Actually I am coming back to comment and no I do not support Janko Tomek for hiding the fact that he was a part of the Communist Party. I was just making a point of something he could do, and then punish whoever is posting here. The reality of this all is that ONCE AGAIN its us the minority who are against him and the vast majority of members will support him like they always have. The members never stand up, just like here in the US and abusers just continue abusing. Look at all the stuff JT has done till now and you think that the fact that he was a member of a Communist Party 40 years ago will all of a sudden bring him down? Youre dreaming.
apologies
Australia
Australia
19 Aug 2020 10:56
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ok
apologies
sorry for that....
yeah, understand your point.
the church and its members need to stand up, but many are sleeping...
1 Corinthiasn 11:30
That is why many among you are weak and sick, and a number of you have fallen asleep.
apologies
sorry for that....
yeah, understand your point.
the church and its members need to stand up, but many are sleeping...
1 Corinthiasn 11:30
That is why many among you are weak and sick, and a number of you have fallen asleep.
for Janko direct
Australia
Australia
23 Aug 2020 16:01
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4413 views
" For the Lord heareth the poor, and despiseth NOT his prisoners "
Psalm 69:33
Psalm 69:33
For sure
USA
USA
27 Aug 2020 12:30
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Who knows that he did not repent and confess that he was in the Communist Party? What was in unbelief and later repented of when one comes to the Lord, should not be mentioned anymore. What God has cleansed, do not call unclean.
his works prove it
Australia
Australia
27 Aug 2020 17:50
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4289 views
re.
Who knows that he did not repent and confess that he was in the Communist Party?
this is the answer 'who knows'. God knows and the bible tells us whether he did or didnt in this verse.....
matt.7:16
Ye shall know them by their fruits....(not by their words)
re.
What was in unbelief and later repented of when one comes to the Lord, should not be mentioned........
very true.
but this is not the fact here, dear and beloved mr/mrs/ms"for sure".
his validated red communist book proves he was still part of the communist party, AFTER his baptism. (thus meaning he did not repent from his alliagance to the communist party and government)
the communist book being validated proved that he did not disconnect from them, but remained part of the ungodly rule.
James 4:4
.......know ye not that the friendship of the world is enmity with God? whosoever therefore will be a friend of the world is the enemy of God.
this is whats in question.
and
ALSO for promoting sin in his sermon to the sunday school children on August 2nd, 2020
(by degrading the work of Jesus through the brothers suffering for God, by their resistance AGAINST the communist ungodly rule)
Who knows that he did not repent and confess that he was in the Communist Party?
this is the answer 'who knows'. God knows and the bible tells us whether he did or didnt in this verse.....
matt.7:16
Ye shall know them by their fruits....(not by their words)
re.
What was in unbelief and later repented of when one comes to the Lord, should not be mentioned........
very true.
but this is not the fact here, dear and beloved mr/mrs/ms"for sure".
his validated red communist book proves he was still part of the communist party, AFTER his baptism. (thus meaning he did not repent from his alliagance to the communist party and government)
the communist book being validated proved that he did not disconnect from them, but remained part of the ungodly rule.
James 4:4
.......know ye not that the friendship of the world is enmity with God? whosoever therefore will be a friend of the world is the enemy of God.
this is whats in question.
and
ALSO for promoting sin in his sermon to the sunday school children on August 2nd, 2020
(by degrading the work of Jesus through the brothers suffering for God, by their resistance AGAINST the communist ungodly rule)
Is any sinless?
USA
USA
27 Aug 2020 22:52
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But if ye do not forgive, neither will your Father which is in heaven forgive your trespasses!
Forgiveness brings peace of heart and mind, my loved ones!
Forgiveness brings peace of heart and mind, my loved ones!
definitely spot on
Australia
Australia
28 Aug 2020 6:24
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Janko needs to ask forgiveness for many deeds, to many people (well overdue my loved ones)
read the bible
Australia
Australia
28 Aug 2020 11:51
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we cannot forgive what God needs to forgive, beloved dear ones....
as much as we would like to be able, we are not given that power...
we can forgive and need to forgive, that part that was sinned towards us.
but, what he sinned towards God, is what GOd needs to forgive, when he repents and confesses that sin to God through the Church, otherwise, there is no forgiveness and peace of heart and mind.
1 John 1:9
If we confess our sins, he is faithful and just to forgive us our sins and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness.
he didnt confess this sin, and did not repent from it, thats why it is still active.
(the proof is his red communist booklet still being validated AFTER his baptism)
the past is the past when its repented and confessed.
what has not been repented of and confessed, is not the past, its still current and live.
as much as we would like to be able, we are not given that power...
we can forgive and need to forgive, that part that was sinned towards us.
but, what he sinned towards God, is what GOd needs to forgive, when he repents and confesses that sin to God through the Church, otherwise, there is no forgiveness and peace of heart and mind.
1 John 1:9
If we confess our sins, he is faithful and just to forgive us our sins and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness.
he didnt confess this sin, and did not repent from it, thats why it is still active.
(the proof is his red communist booklet still being validated AFTER his baptism)
the past is the past when its repented and confessed.
what has not been repented of and confessed, is not the past, its still current and live.
Why? Disappointed...
Australia
Australia
22 Dec 2020 19:45
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3712 views
Why does this website exist. All you guys are doing is gossiping. I still had some innocence left in me, but this blew it. I was searching the internet for a picture of Marsden Church, when I stumbled across all this. It didn't even take me half a minute of reading before I had to start crying. All these rumouring comments left me heartbroken. Who cares if these people you talk about did evil things. Fix up your own behaviour and just stop. Why does someone younger than you people have to tell you to stop doing stuff like that anyway? I believe Moderator is in charge here so please Mr. Moderator read this verse and stop and look at how you are influencing others. Everyone else should also consider your ways of life.
"Above all, love each other deeply, because love covers over a multitude of sins."
– 1 Peter 4:8
LOVE YOUR ENEMIES!!! DO NOT GOSSIP ABOUT THEM (WHETHER ENEMY OR NOT)!!
I am very upset. ????
"Above all, love each other deeply, because love covers over a multitude of sins."
– 1 Peter 4:8
LOVE YOUR ENEMIES!!! DO NOT GOSSIP ABOUT THEM (WHETHER ENEMY OR NOT)!!
I am very upset. ????
be careful
Australia
Australia
22 Dec 2020 23:58
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if you want a picture of our marsden church. search marsden address on google maps, and the aerial view will show you that the church is built like the symbol of a cross, following the catholic unbiblical teaching and rule.
it is very upsetting and truly sad that this website is set up, but its more upsetting when alot of members are scared to stand up in church against sin committed by ministers and elders.
this is more devasting, then this website.
we would like you to explain in simple terms, how you could assist in this issue with our church in Marsden.
love covers the multitudes of sin, when the sin is repented of and confessed.
without confession, there is no forgiveness
we need to forgive one another, even if the person doesnt seek forgiveness from us, but the person in sin is only free from their sin when God forgives them. Until then, the person is enslaved in their sin.
here, the church needs to stand against the sin, when a sin is exposed in a member, even if its a minister or elder.
coverring up, does not mean forgive them and forget it, God will deal with it......thats an unbiblical teaching from hell.
sin is not allowed in the fellowship, and the fellowship and its members will be accountable towards God if they do not make a stand against the sin in a member.
1 Timothy chapter 5, the last part reads: ...................neither be partaker of the sins of others; keep thyself pure.
it is very upsetting and truly sad that this website is set up, but its more upsetting when alot of members are scared to stand up in church against sin committed by ministers and elders.
this is more devasting, then this website.
we would like you to explain in simple terms, how you could assist in this issue with our church in Marsden.
love covers the multitudes of sin, when the sin is repented of and confessed.
without confession, there is no forgiveness
we need to forgive one another, even if the person doesnt seek forgiveness from us, but the person in sin is only free from their sin when God forgives them. Until then, the person is enslaved in their sin.
here, the church needs to stand against the sin, when a sin is exposed in a member, even if its a minister or elder.
coverring up, does not mean forgive them and forget it, God will deal with it......thats an unbiblical teaching from hell.
sin is not allowed in the fellowship, and the fellowship and its members will be accountable towards God if they do not make a stand against the sin in a member.
1 Timothy chapter 5, the last part reads: ...................neither be partaker of the sins of others; keep thyself pure.
Moderator
Australia
Australia
23 Dec 2020 13:24
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>>Who cares if these people you talk about did evil things.
What to say? Does this deserve any comment?
What to say? Does this deserve any comment?
Why? Disappointed...
Australia
Australia
23 Dec 2020 13:48
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To: Moderator.
You know that is not the way I meant it. I KNOW it is a problem that those people did evil things, but that does not mean 'make a website and bully'. It means to help them to see the light and not criticise them. Help them find God again. Talk to them personally, face to face, and HELP them. Those people probably read this website too, and do you think that makes them feel better about themselves? NO! It makes them feel like they are not good enough.
Do not speak evil against one another, brothers. The one who speaks against a brother or judges his brother, speaks evil against the law and judges the law. But if you judge the law, you are not a doer of the law but a judge. There is only one lawgiver and judge, he who is able to save and to destroy. But who are you to judge your neighbour?
- James 4:11-12
You just encouraged other people to make comments about my comment before. You're urging them to do the wrong thing and keep fighting, gossiping and criticising.
Abstain from EVERY form of evil.
- 1 Thessalonians 5:22
That includes what people are doing on this website.
Please stop.
You know that is not the way I meant it. I KNOW it is a problem that those people did evil things, but that does not mean 'make a website and bully'. It means to help them to see the light and not criticise them. Help them find God again. Talk to them personally, face to face, and HELP them. Those people probably read this website too, and do you think that makes them feel better about themselves? NO! It makes them feel like they are not good enough.
Do not speak evil against one another, brothers. The one who speaks against a brother or judges his brother, speaks evil against the law and judges the law. But if you judge the law, you are not a doer of the law but a judge. There is only one lawgiver and judge, he who is able to save and to destroy. But who are you to judge your neighbour?
- James 4:11-12
You just encouraged other people to make comments about my comment before. You're urging them to do the wrong thing and keep fighting, gossiping and criticising.
Abstain from EVERY form of evil.
- 1 Thessalonians 5:22
That includes what people are doing on this website.
Please stop.
Moderator
Australia
Australia
23 Dec 2020 13:59
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I am patient with you because I see you are a young person and don't understand many things.
These evil people are ACCN leaders, i.e. elders and ministers.
Like all men with power, they have abused their power, simply because - they could. There was no one inside the church to stop them. If someone raises his voice, they find a way to get rid of him.
That is why we have this website. People come here and freely discuss their problems. Normally, all problems should be resolved within the church walls, but that obviously doesn't work, hence a website like this.
Any more questions?
These evil people are ACCN leaders, i.e. elders and ministers.
Like all men with power, they have abused their power, simply because - they could. There was no one inside the church to stop them. If someone raises his voice, they find a way to get rid of him.
That is why we have this website. People come here and freely discuss their problems. Normally, all problems should be resolved within the church walls, but that obviously doesn't work, hence a website like this.
Any more questions?
Why? Disappointed...
Australia
Australia
23 Dec 2020 14:06
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3626 views
Does it work here? NO! Problems are not being resolved here either!
I know who these people are. Do not clarify that to me. Tell THEM who they are. REMIND them and HELP them to see right, please.
I know who these people are. Do not clarify that to me. Tell THEM who they are. REMIND them and HELP them to see right, please.
Moderator
Australia
Australia
23 Dec 2020 14:08
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How about you try and help them to see their mistakes? Good luck. Come back later and tell us how that worked out.
Why? Disappointed...
Australia
Australia
23 Dec 2020 14:12
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3621 views
I'm very sorry. Please forgive me.
understand Gods ways
Australia
Australia
24 Dec 2020 14:08
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3543 views
you dont need to seek forgivenss, as you didnt do anything
just
tell us a way to improve the condition within the churches
we all need each other, and please tell us of a number of ways to help out by standing in church against the sin committed, regardless of who is in question.
Romans 2:11
because God does not show partiality.
Colossians 3:25,
"Anyone who does wrong will be repaid for their wrongs, and there is no favoritism."
James 4:17
If anyone, then, knows the good they ought to do and doesn't do it, it is sin for them.
1 Timothy 5:20
But those elders who are sinning you are to reprove before everyone, so that the others may take warning.
just
tell us a way to improve the condition within the churches
we all need each other, and please tell us of a number of ways to help out by standing in church against the sin committed, regardless of who is in question.
Romans 2:11
because God does not show partiality.
Colossians 3:25,
"Anyone who does wrong will be repaid for their wrongs, and there is no favoritism."
James 4:17
If anyone, then, knows the good they ought to do and doesn't do it, it is sin for them.
1 Timothy 5:20
But those elders who are sinning you are to reprove before everyone, so that the others may take warning.
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