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Covid masks

20 Oct 2020 4:25
I heard there has been some issues in our churches with people not wearing masks(US).

Arent we supposed to protect the vulnerable?

Is there going to be legal ramifications?

There have several churches in the news who have "taken a stand",
what would happen if this happened in the ACC?

fear who?
20 Oct 2020 19:04
who so ever fears the enemy, and what the enemy can do, read:
1 samuel 31:
1 Now the Philistines fought against Israel, and the men of Israel fled before them, and many fell slain on Mount Gilboa.
2 The Philistines followed hard after Saul and his sons, and they killed Saul’s sons Jonathan, Abinadab, and Malchishua.
3 When the battle intensified against Saul, the archers overtook him and wounded him critically.
4 Then Saul said to his armor-bearer, “Draw your sword and run it through me, or these uncircumcised men will come and run me through and torture me!”
5 But his armor-bearer was terrified and refused to do it. So Saul took his own sword and fell on it.

hebrew 4
12 For the word of God is alive and active. Sharper than any double-edged sword, it penetrates even to dividing soul and spirit, joints and marrow; it judges the thoughts and attitudes of the heart.

dont fear government
20 Oct 2020 19:08
matthew 10
28 Do not be afraid of those who kill the body but cannot kill the soul. Rather, be afraid of the One who can destroy both soul and body in hell.

psalm 118
6 The LORD is for me; I will not fear; What can man do to me?

Dear Pandemic
20 Oct 2020 23:36
Our Church Leadership should focus on providing Spiritual nourishment.
The New Testament doesn't ask the Church to regulate our occupation, housing, automobiles, meal preparations, dress, vacations, etc.

21 Oct 2020 10:02
so true

science facts
14 Feb 2021 23:36
Although Covid is no worse than the flu, the latter of which has suddenly disappeared from existence in America, students and school faculty alike who are attending “in-person” are forced to endure all the stupidity and idiocy that comes with quarantining the healthy. There’s a reason every student and teacher in America must wear a mask to school, and it’s not about Covid safety — in fact, it has nothing to do with Covid protection at all. This is very shocking to most people, especially those who believe that our entire medical system is designed to help you.

You see, just like the flu shot or the Covid shot, masks spread disease rather than prevent it from spreading. How? Simple. The person wearing the mask gets sick from diseases like pneumonia, as the bacteria in the mouth releases toxins that make their way to other parts of the body, including the lungs and brain. Yes, oral bacteria can break into the bloodstream, that’s a scientific fact we already know from chronic gum disease. Still, masks are mandatory nearly everywhere, no matter the science or facts.

Baloney, stupidity and idiocy.

very odd
14 Feb 2021 23:38
US most hypocritical school rule during Covid is… wait for it…
Schools must limit the time students spend outside during school, or the kids might ‘overdose’ on vitamin D!

So all teachers should be fired for taking their students outside for recess during fall/spring since that’s “giving” them vitamin D supplementation, and according to the FDA, CDC, and WebMD, Vitamin D is poison, even from sunshine, but vaccines containing heavy metal toxins (including mercury and aluminium) are good for the kids! So, that also means no more orange juice with added vitamin C or milk with added vitamin D. Tune your internet dial to for updates on natural remedies for everything under the sun.

read a few times
23 Feb 2021 17:01
Everything about the “new norm” in America is modeled after Communist China. Most Americans think it’s all about protection from Covid-19, but that’s just the cover story, just like 9/11 was a cover story for the Patriot Act to enable the US government to spy on every American and disable constitutional rights. Under a communist regime, the people are not allowed to have personalities, businesses, religion, healthy social interactions, or more money than each other. Everyone is poor so everyone is the same – subservient to a tyrannical government that ends creativity, entrepreneurship, believing in God, speaking your mind, and printing opinions about the government.

interesting facts
2 Mar 2021 22:24
According to the latest figures from the U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC), a private corporation, about 42 million people living in the United States have been vaccinated with at least one dose of a China virus injection. Of these, only 17 million have received both doses.

This is not enough, according to Fauci, to get things back to normal. It could take until 2022, 2023, or who knows when to satisfy Fauci’s requirements to return back to “normalcy” where, you know, people are allowed to interact as they were designed to do.

Keep in mind that Fauci is directly responsible for unleashing the WuFlu, having “hot-wired” the virus to be contagious in humans.

The China virus was deliberately engineered as a bioweapon to collapse the global economy and massively depopulate the planet. Thus far, it is working marvelously at accomplishing these two globalist goals.

search yourself
8 Mar 2021 23:08
Masks cause gum disease, which means masks increase risk of coronavirus death
Back in the summer, it was revealed that persistent mask wearing is becoming a leading cause of gum disease.

Two Manhattan dentists came forward to say that they are seeing hordes of new patients with gum disease, all due to them wearing masks on a regular basis.

So, if masks are causing more gum disease and gum disease massively increases a Wuhan coronavirus (Covid-19) patient’s risk of complications and death, then the only logical conclusion with all this is that masks increase the risk of Covid-19 death.

important news
17 Mar 2021 15:11
A top vaccine scientist named Geert Vanden Bossche, who has worked with numerous vaccine corporations and organizations including GAVI, is sounding the alarm over the mass vaccination of populations around the world with covid-19 vaccines.

He says covid-19 vaccines are “brilliant” medicine and insists they do work on an individual level, but says they are “the wrong weapon” to be deployed on a global scale when high pressures of infectious pathogens are present.

As he tweeted on March 3rd, “I am EXTREMELY concerned about the impact current Covid-19 vaccines will have when increasingly deployed in mass vaccination campaigns conducted in the heat of a pandemic. Read my global WARNING & scientific evidence.” He then gives the following link for his warning:

important facts
17 Mar 2021 15:17
When George Orwell’s prophetic book “1984” was published in 1949, there was no way even he could have known what a visionary he was.

A novel about a dystopian future featuring an all-knowing, all-seeing, all-powerful central government, there was no way anything like that could ever happen in the United States or any of Europe’s liberal, civil rights-protecting democracies…right?


While Orwell’s date — 1984 — might have been just a tad premature, it wasn’t by much. Not long after, within a decade, the world would embrace the Internet, which would then be mastered and taken over by a handful of “big tech” companies that learned everything about everyone and used that information to profit and consolidate power.

And curry favor with authoritarians in government, many of whom have now exposed themselves during the COVID-19 pandemic.

Perpetual lockdowns, closing of businesses, and the curbing of constitutional liberties have all pretty much gone on with little resistance, from we the people, save a protest here and there. And because of that, the elites in big tech and government who know us better than we know ourselves and who now control virtually every aspect of our lives are using their power in the most authoritarian manner.

interesting update
25 Mar 2021 23:11
Covid-19 is beginning to spike in over a dozen states, most with high vaccination rates. Hawaii’s Department of Health has begun to report on covid-19 cases occurring in people who are fully vaccinated against covid-19. The Department is labeling these “breakthrough cases,” but says that people should not be alarmed. It turns out that healthcare professionals are not worried about these post-vaccination covid-19 cases.

For over a year, a covid-19 case was treated as a serious issue, with 14-day quarantines and aggressive contact tracing. But if the covid-19 case is detected after vaccination, the public should NOT be alarmed. In an attempt to plunge as many needles in people arms as possible, health authorities deceive patients about vaccine safety and efficacy and nonchalantly brush aside any covid-19 cases that appear in the fully vaccinated.

health facts
17 Apr 2021 11:49
It’s all planned to hurt you, folks. Let that sink in. The pandemic was a plandemic, and all the advice and rules come from the CCP, who want us all weak and dying. Let us explain with great detail.

Masks do not help. First off, nearly every mask every American is wearing right now has material holes that are 3 to 5 microns in size, where the COVID-19 virus fragments and particles average 2 microns in size. So masks are not protecting you or the people around you from anything. What’s worse is that bacteria in your throat and mouth is collecting and can lead to pneumonia, while your mask limits oxygen intake, severely restricting nutrients from flowing throughout your body, thus damaging your immune system.

Social distancing doesn’t help. Currently, people are not building antibodies to anything because they’re not being exposed to bad bacteria at all. All these antibacterial wipes and sprays and hand gels are killing all the bacteria, including good gut flora. Disinfectants are chemical-based usually and cause respiratory malfunctions and distress, not to mention cancer of the cleansing organs as you breathe it all in all day at home and work.

government lies
26 Apr 2021 0:20
Queensland government 'caught in a massive COVID lie'

do the search on u tube, sky news, paul murry

Y’all r’ Zooked!
26 Apr 2021 8:44
After reading a couple comments on here I feel significantly less intelligent.

oh, dear one
26 Apr 2021 22:52
people have died from cold and flu's
people have died from a simple disease
people have died from a common problem
people have died from a type of virus, that didn't seem that deadly.........
MOSTLY because of a possible pre-existing health issue, health problem or any other pre-existing disease.
this is what most of us understand and believe
BUT the lies that are globally circulating based on the worldwide governments' manipulative attempts on what's not proven, is what MANY choose NOT to accept

interestg vaccine
1 May 2021 17:31
Passengers on a flight bound to Hong Kong from Delhi in India tested positive for the Wuhan coronavirus (COVID-19). The positive test results came as a surprise since the 52 travelers all presented negative test results prior to boarding. Because of these new infections, Hong Kong’s strategy to keep the Wuhan coronavirus at bay – in place since January 2021 – has taken a hit.

The passengers were on board an aircraft operated by Indian carrier Vistara. From the Indian capital, the plane flew into Hong Kong on April 4. The city’s authorities did not disclose the total number of passengers, but reports surmised that there could have been as much as 188 passengers on the flight.

Hong Kong has one of the strictest entry and quarantine measures in the world. All passengers flying in must submit a negative COVID-19 test 72 hours before departure. They are also required to take another COVID-19 test upon arrival and are mandated to quarantine themselves for a three-week period.

further more
1 May 2021 17:38
The Centner Academy in Miami sent out an email to its staff this past week warning them not to take any Wuhan coronavirus (Covid-19) injections because of the serious risks involved.

Administrators at the private school explained that it is simple too risky for “unvaccinated individuals” to have injected people roaming around campus. Any staff member who does get vaccinated will not be allowed to remain employed.

“Until further notice, we ask any employee who has not yet taken the experimental COVID-19 injection, to wait until the end of the school year,” the email reads.

“We also recommended that all faculty and staff hold off on taking the injection until there is further research available on whether this experimental drug is impacting unvaccinated individuals.”

4 Jul 2021 22:08
Wow Marsden church under the dictatorship of John Petrak and Dennis Flora are enforcing qr code checkins and if you don't checkin don't bother coming to church says amature enforcement officer George flora Wow what happened to these brothers who we all know have turned against the children of God against Christ and now serve the antichrist (the government).

Well John petrak your father chose to serve God and ended up in prison but your doing the opposite You serve the antichrist so you don't end up in prison. You will know them by there fruits Matthew 7:20,22

QR code checkin
Under Section 94H of the Privacy Act 1988 it is illegal to scan and checkin with the qr code in Australia.
Penalty: Imprisonment for 5 years or 300 penalty units, or both.
It is illegal to refuse to allow another person to enter the premises. That one's for you George flora and all of those who are committing this offence same penalties apply.

Ah you might end up in court soon so be prepared the magistrates courts run by the rule of law not directives.

Thank you

5 Jul 2021 12:27
Well now, what's a big deal with QR code checking? It's a reasonable measure against the spread of the virus. That's how they trace the infection, in case of an outbreak.

6 Jul 2021 15:29
Its important, we need to protect those each other. Hopefully soon it will be over.
Just curious does Australia still require masks? know they have another lockdown.

did you or not
6 Jul 2021 22:15
did you read the privacy act?

read it!!

To enforcement
28 Jul 2021 13:25
re: Wow! Marsden church, they may be under the dictatorship of John Petrak and Dennis Flora. Amature enforcement officer George Flora is enforcing QR code checkins and if you do not check-in, do not bother coming to church (this last part, seems to be subjective, as no part did he advise such nonsense you big fat liar who stills Marsden air conditioner and eat KFC during lunch breaks cause you are too cheap to invest in your own). I much prefer you do not start your sentence with "Wow" you sound illiterate. Perhaps start with something like this..?? I do wonder what has happened to these brothers, have they turned against the children of god and against christ and now serve the anti-christ(i.e., the government).

I am not even going to try to fix the other para's. You clearly are dry, and to try and support your argument against the government acts which you claim to be the anti-christ, ... mate... I think you just shot yourself in the foot by being a hypocrite.

You are the scum of the earth, to sit in church and then come on the forum and post your illogical ramblings that have no structure whatsoever, which has the equivalence to an uneducated donkey... says more about the person you are you cheap coward. I do not wish COVID on anyone, but.........

28 Jul 2021 13:34
While I am at it, the Gov has been tracking you since forever. Medicare, vaccinations, bank transactions, etc.... So, I guess you are the anti-christ using their services. How awkward for you! LOL. I guess you can go use cash, but it'll only get you so far with it being phased out ... hahahahahhahahahahahhaha
youre stuffed!

stop it USA
28 Jul 2021 22:22
stop it mister or miss USA.

give a biblical text to your arguement, or dont bother.

everyone is different, and is allowed to voice their understanding of this plandemic, so stop it!

give bible, chapter and verse that is backing your arguement or comment please!!

Stop it USA
29 Jul 2021 21:42
More smart, More safe, Mortein!

Mr. Mars Den
31 Jul 2021 21:28
To all you opinionated Covid deniers, comparing it to a 'glorified' strain of influenza, please be practical, infect yourself with the disease then proceed to thumb your nose at the 'ignorant and naïve' world.
Any takers?

read yourself
31 Jul 2021 22:17
2 Corinthians 11:3

But I am afraid that, as the serpent deceived Eve by his craftiness, your minds will be led astray from the simplicity and purity of devotion to Christ.

22 Aug 2021 13:25
We are sad to hear about sister Danica and Brother Zoli leaving our congregation. The Marsden church need to check themselves and do better! Especially the way George Flora attacked him, that was extremely inappropriate and simply not necessary. George you need to check your attitude and stop being such a cruel person. John Petrak please do better. May God bless you both Danica and Zoli.

To: Shame
22 Aug 2021 13:28
Maybe John Petrak is not fit to be the assis. elder?? They should put Alex Taba up, or Dennis. Nick?

22 Aug 2021 14:02
Matthew 10:23

But when they persecute you in this city, flee ye into another: for verily I say unto you, ye shall not have gone over the cities of Israel, till the son of man has come.

Also verse 24
The disciple is not above his master,nor the servant above his Lord.

Philippians 2;12

Wherefore, my beloved, as ye have always obeyed, not as in my presence only,but now much more in my absence, work out your own salvation with fear and trembling.

I think
22 Aug 2021 15:41
No, not Dennis. Nick or Alex to be assis elder

How about
22 Aug 2021 16:49
How about Anastasia Palecek as your assistant elder most of you obey her anyway ???????????? hahaha

what bible states
22 Aug 2021 21:47
Nick and Alex are related to our current Elder.

To avoid favourtism, it is not a practice within our Church to anoint a relative to the existing Elder.

Romans chapter 2, verse 11
For God does not show favoritism.

To:what bible states
22 Aug 2021 22:37
Well maybe nick or Alex would be better than what is John is doing. Don’t forget that Alex came from Germany- good morales. Nick married into that family, so who knows. Maybe he could do a better job also. So much chaos going on. Sad. John looks to be struggling

Questions the church
22 Aug 2021 22:40
This point is very good. Instead of asking real question we just judge people. Maybe looks like marsden church is not encouraging and people leave because this. Petyka and Melisa was very passion for the faith, not like people in this church. They want to leave because marsden is fail. Same on Danica and Zol

22 Aug 2021 22:43
Well if you are all tooo busy trying to replace the assistant elder, and not being zealous about the faith then maybe you all need to check yourselves! Be an example, be faithful and never ending in your attendance, don’t gossip, and love one another. Whether Nick or Alex or Dennis, is better suited, we will never know. But focus on yourselves first and be good standing members with 100% attendance and a clean record, before you start talking. God bless.

No no
24 Aug 2021 10:39
Wow, absolutely not! I wouldn’t even like to see Alex, Nick or Dennis try to do what John has done for the church. John has transformed and brought so much peace to our congregation, and if God wanted another brother there, he would have put them there. John is the best person suited for his position and he is doing a terrific, something that the other ministering brothers cannot achieve. And speaking about attendance record, John has 100% compared to the other brothers, so no use putting someone else there when they’re not always at church. Don’t forget that a shepherd needs to be available 100% of the time, not just 20, 30, 50. Sounds like you’s are just jealousssss!

24 Aug 2021 18:56
2 Timothy 3:7
Ever learning, and never able to come to the knowledge of the truth.

No matter how much you come to church, if you are blind your blind.

The above comment mentioned John is the best person suited. That's your opinion ???????

But Acts 5:29 says

Then Peter and the other apostles answered and said, We ought to obey God rather than men.

John obeys the government rather then God you can't hide this it's in clear sight that he is lost ???????

You can defend him all you like but the truth is the truth he shouldn't even be a minister let alone assistant elder ???????

24 Aug 2021 21:18
Where did Zoli go if he left??

To: attendance
24 Aug 2021 21:43
So if John is not the best person suited to this position, who is? Besides your going to be more blind not coming to church than actually coming to church. The less time you spend with God and the brethren the quicker you’ll be lead away. It’s really not rocket science. Wake up! John may not be perfect, but none of the other ministering brothers aren’t any better of an example.

24 Aug 2021 21:45
Zoli and Danica want to move to the Doroslovac church it seems.

To above comment
24 Aug 2021 23:49
Matthew 18:20 For where two or three are gathered together in my name, there am I in the midst of them.

I think that verse sums it up for all of your objections. If you think God is only in Marsden church your blinded and don't know what your saying. You can go to church all your life and still be blind and never come to the truth.

2 Timothy 3:7 ever learning and never come to the truth.

Church lunch
25 Aug 2021 4:15
What is wrong with eating KFC for Church lunch?

25 Aug 2021 14:57

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