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Mt Cottrell church to pay $10,240

Moderator
Australia
13 Mar 2023 0:06
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Here is the outcome of the church work done by the four elders in Mt Cottrell, Melbourne.

The total cost that needs to be paid for the elders coming to Australia, which includes the airfare tickets, Airbnb accomodation for a week, the car rental for a week, etc is:

10,240 AU dollars


(around 6,750 USD)


This would be the cost of two resignations - PP's and Janko Tomek's. Actually, PP did not resign, he only "retired".

The members are upset and even saying they won't pay anything into this total.



No worries mate
Australia
13 Mar 2023 10:21
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The older members may eventually change their minds and end up paying into this total. They'll feel bad to have this cost left to the young ones.

Otherwise they can always sell their church for the cost of $10240 to the Altona church group. Then their debts will be paid in full.

Moderator
Australia
17 Mar 2023 3:37
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I think it would be fair if brothers from US and Canada help a bit with a donation. After all, the US dollar is so much stronger.

Why US
USA
18 Mar 2023 7:48
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There will be more travel costs for Elders to travel from US soon, who will pay for those flights? Australia has still three active Elders, The new one,in Brisbane J.Petrak, A.Bauman from Brisbane, and M. Cucanic in Melbourne, not to mention the ones from the other conference. So why should Canadians and Americans pay for Elders to go to Australia ???????? when they can have the Australian Elders do the same work? Are not the American Elders the ones who ordained Bauman and Cucanic? Why were they ordained, was it not that US Elders do not know better the things pertaining to Australian issues then Australian Elders do?
Whoever invites should pay for travel expenses.




Fair is fair
Australia
18 Mar 2023 9:37
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PP said "he doesn't work with American Elders" so he invited Hungarians,organized Airbnb,car rental etc.He should pay for all.

If JT would have Elders the one he wanted,they would stay at his or other members house,that be less cost.

sad but true
Australia
18 Mar 2023 22:08
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A Baumann is not from the same conference anymore

Confused
USA
19 Mar 2023 0:34
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To above statement:
Arnold baumann is with Jim and Mark igic in the same conference. They work and share communion together in America. How messed up are you mt cotrell? Don't you see what's going on? Jim wants power over you weak ones too.
Use A Baumann. At least he won't lie like vlado.

How many conferences
USA
19 Mar 2023 0:38
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Wow,conferences?, how many conferences are there in Australia? And what conference do these
three Australian Elders belong too? Can you please name them. And how many conferences are there in North America Australian?
Are they not all in Christ?

hard to understand
Australia
19 Mar 2023 21:21
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there are 3 in australia
and
about 6 in USA

Moderator
Australia
30 Mar 2023 23:02
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That word "conference", I'm just guessing, means "we can't stand each other and work together" (?)

hmmmm
Australia
30 Mar 2023 23:07
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paul pentsa was the elder body of elders in australia.

NCAA Elder basketbal
USA
1 Apr 2023 5:31
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So conferences... are we going to fill out brackets and see which elder from which conference is going to be the winner. One on one basketball, AC style, there will be a dinner and singing after each game.

Moderator
Australia
13 May 2023 16:20
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The latest information. The collection for the elders trip to Mt Cottrell is finalised. Only a little over 7000 AUD was collected. There is an outstanding balance still to be paid. The rest will be taken as a loan and be paid back by the church with interest.

Moderator
Australia
14 May 2023 0:32
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So, the first debt has not been paid and another is already given to the Mt Cottrell church. The elders Mark Igic and Matei Augustinov are coming to Mt Cottrell for the Sunday's of the 21st and 28th (baptism weekend). There is going to be another collection of 4500 AUD for the both of their travel expenses.



who now
Australia
14 May 2023 23:12
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is paul pentsa paying for the travel tickets of matei augustinov and mark igic?



What is new
USA
15 May 2023 5:22
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Mt. Cottrell will have to pay all traveling expenses.
While they had Australian Elders working in their church, P.P. almost always paid his travel expenses.
Why should he pay for US Elders to go to Australia when there are
Other Elders in Australia who can do the work?

WOW
Australia
15 May 2023 10:25
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American Elders coming to ordain Vlado.

Hungarian Elders said pray for Vlado.

please explain
Australia
15 May 2023 12:01
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hungarian elders stated that mount cottrell will not have an elder until there is peace.

what did mount cottrell do in 2 months to gain that peace?

what level of repentance did they achieve with them stealing altona church?


To WOW
USA
16 May 2023 8:34
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They are not going to Australia to Ordain Vlado. They are going for baptisms.

Why not
Australia
16 May 2023 14:16
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The elders can't do any work in the Australian church because the only one praying for Vlado Papuga is Vlado Papuga

Janko Tomek is praying for Janko Tomek.

And he isn't even an assistant elder anymore. He didn't even want to stay as a minister.



who
Australia
16 May 2023 15:12
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who didnt want to stay a minister?

Why not
Australia
16 May 2023 16:07
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The brother Janko Tomek

serious?
Australia
17 May 2023 12:03
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really?
how come he is still holding sermons?
you can still listen on their website........

t0 why not
Australia
29 Jul 2023 2:36
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JT and PP were forced by Hungarians elders to resign.
But VP somehow manipulated his actions.

Falsehoof
Serbia
29 Jul 2023 6:18
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Forced to resign doesn't get your sins forgiven.
Confessing your fault and accepting the correct measure of correction does.
Most churches and elders are living in falsehoid.

To falsehood
Australia
29 Jul 2023 10:04
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What are you saying? That VP confessed his and Hunga.elders forgave him, so he carry on as assistant waiting to be ordained.

Read slowly
Serbia
30 Jul 2023 9:20
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Maybe.

I didn't comment regarding VP,it was a general comment regarding how many elders and churches function today.

Time will show re. VP.....

Many approve, ignore and cover all elders sins to become a minister, assistant elder or elder.....until they are mistreated.....only then do they expose the elders' sins!!!!!!!

Interesting
Australia
30 Jul 2023 11:29
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I agree to your comment that many cover elders sins till he becomes elder or assis.elder....now what I understand is that JT was mistreated and he exposed PP sin, so he had to resign.
Very mysteriously interesting issue.

SohelpusGod
Australia
27 Mar 2024 9:11
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The bible is clear, we ought to Love one another, to show no partiality, We must Love what is Good , To be Holy with self control, Ministry must be loving towards all mankind especially those in the church house hold, to show no partiality, To speak evil of no one, to avoid quarrelling, to be gentle, to show perfect courtesy towards others. If church is in decline, then it’s lacking most what I’ve mentioned here. Just have to overcome Pride, now that’s going to be difficult

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