26 Apr 2023 9:29
This has become an issue in the ACF church, elders are asking young converts a list or questions including if they have ever used adult toys, and other things that are exposing these children to sexual ideas most of them were previously innocent to.
The same elder is asking married couples questions that seem to be less about their personal holiness, and more about his personal curiosity.
I know this site is about the ACCN, but this needs to be brought to light, and exposed to the other branches of the AC movement. Most members are brainwashed into thinking the elder is doing this in good faith, but it has pushed many people back to the ACCA, or out into the world.
Is this something that was lost in the ACCA/N that the ACF is trying to go back to? Or just a few perverted old men that get satisfaction by asking 13 year old girls about their sexual history?
26 Apr 2023 10:25
Do you mean to say that the ACF baptizes 13 year old children?
26 Apr 2023 10:36
I'm not sure what age they baptize, I am hearing all this from 2 friends that have family in the ACF. Apparently some of their elders have a list of questions they are asking converts when they start repenting. I know kids begin their conversion as young as 10 sometimes, but 13 is the youngest I have heard being asked adult questions.
26 Apr 2023 10:38
P.S. these two friends are not related to each other, and both have a very similar story from different states.
26 Apr 2023 12:39
Who is this ACF church and where is the location?
Did they split from ACCA or ACCN?
26 Apr 2023 13:45
ACF stands for Apostolic Christian Faith. They broke out of the ACCA, but have pulled quite a number of ACCN members into their ranks in Ohio, and Canada.
26 Apr 2023 14:12
for which reason/s did they break away?
27 Apr 2023 6:11
The national ACC changed
Policies on reinstatement, which the ACF do not agree with.
more details please
27 Apr 2023 11:03
reinstatement for what and for who?
28 Apr 2023 1:05
It wasn't really that cut and dry. The issue goes back much further. Reinstatement was one of the issues brought up, but differing views on the Blood of Christ was the biggest deal. The ACF founding elders believed that once a believer sins after baptism, Christ's blood covering is of no affect, and one must rely on Jesus's advocacy before God for salvation. This leads to calling some sin shortcomings, and the national church elders were saying this is very risky because the ACF elders were dismissing sin.
The split also lined up with values brought in from the Mennonite/Amish US converts vs. the churches that were founded directly from European immigrants.
28 Apr 2023 11:43
Did the sins unto death theory come into question?