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There are many souls that are not attending church anymore. We don't know if they are going to a different church, different faith or just sitting at home. Did Janko Tomek or ANY church members call up ALL those people to ask where they are? Are they caring enough to call or are they just noisy so they can gossip? We all know Janko doesn't call anyone and there's any one or two that would. The rest don't care about anyone. They are only selfish and only care about themselves so where's their Love???!!! They don't have the love Christ has or wants them to have. The love has gone. So instead of saying to the person who wrote the comment below what to do, where to go, because everyone has their own interpretation of the Bible (as we are seeing from all these comments), they should be dealing with the source. That source is Janko! Janko is supposed to be the shepherd who cares for his sheep but instead he is the shepherd that leads them to the wolves. So therefore another shepherd may find the sheep and take them in and LOVE them before they are gone forever. Deal with the source: Janko. That's why there are so many problems, because he goes against the word of God. We know Pentsa won't take Janko down because it seems that Janko has something on Pentsa which Pentsa doesn't want anyone to know. Well one day we will all know. It seems the elder is so scared and ashamed to have whatever he is hiding revealed. Please stop bickering everyone and let's show that we all still have love & kindness. (AUS)

Hello! Can anyone share details on how's the new church in Tarneit progressing? We know that Janko and Company put the concrete slabs but do they have enough funds to finish the building? Perhaps they hope they will get some money from Sydney or Adelaide church, when they sell them too? How many members are currently worshiping in Tarneit and how many of them are willing to pay for the new church? (AUS)

As far as I know, they have all the funds from selling Altona church. They keep all the money to themselves even though most of them didn't put the money in for it. It isn't Tarneit. It's in Mt Cottrell. They only say Tarneit so they can make people think it's in a suburb but it's not, it's in the bush. (AUS)
   
COMMENT 3:
     
I wrote Comment 1. Thank you. Well, I am trying to figure out why would anyone want to go that far from populated areas. What is the exact address of this new "Janko's church"? How long do you need to drive from, for example, Altona, to get there? Is there any public transport available? (I was told there isn't.) (AUS)

Loved ones, be not deceived by Janko Tomek. We gather together on Sundays and see all the corruption that he is committing. He and 'elderess' Martha. He and his family try to convince everyone that everything is right but they LIE and TWIST everything to convince the vulnerable. The sad thing is the vulnerable and naive people actually believe him and therefore are partakers of their sin and corruption. Well loved ones, the Devil himself is also very convincing and persuasive to tempt each one that the sin is OK to do it once then twice then so forth and before you know it, that sin is no longer a sin but just another OK thing to do. That's the way we all know the Devil acts and he is very nice and convincing to get what he wants. If you don't listen, his aim is to attack you even more. Janko is doing that to the church members and I'm thinking of leaving. I would rather leave the church and attend another than to put up with the corruption and sin, otherwise I will be a partaker of his sin. We all know that Janko will never come down because Pentsa supports him and supports the sin too. I really wonder if he really knows the truth about Janko but then again Janko is very convincing to naive people. (AUS)
   

To comment 1 leave the church if you think it is full of sin otherwise you are guilty as well. (AUS)

The author of this entry writes "I would rather leave the church and attend another than to put up with..."
As a member in the ACC I know our policy has always been [if you don’t like the way we (leadership) do things then leave]
"The Church” has never been a democracy"... a direct quote from Brother Andy Kozy.
Your least brother in Christ (USA)

Remember, if Pentsa reveals ANY sin committed by Tomek, Tomek is there quickly to reveal Pentsa’s sin. So, both seem buddies, and friends, until one starts opening his mouth. Until then, they indicate to people that they are all OK. Yet, it's very clear that the last TWO weddings in Marsden church, neither Elder or Assistant Elder was present. Mister hog PENTSA was very capable in conducting them both on his own. Pentsa has no shame to even marry his own daughter. How stupid. Out of Szabo, Tomek, Papuga, one of them was suppose to marry Jessica and Dylon, not a blood related father. How shameful! And nobody even dare to ask why? Most are spiritualy dead or just about dead to not even notice this. Hello??? Where are you??
 
And, we have a baptism coming up in Marsden in December, and who is going to baptise Pentsa’s son that is ready for baptism? Szabo already indicated he is unable to attend due to health reasons. Does this mean Pentsa is going to baptise his own son? Or will he call his dear brother Elder Roman from Florida to baptise his nephew? No shame at all. Well, let's give him another go, at least at this coming baptism, whether he will conduct confession with his own son. Tomek and Papuga don’t even know enough English to conduct an English sermon (properly and understandable), let alone some baptismal work. And they are assistant elders in an English speaking country. Where is logic here? (AUS)
 
COMMENT 4:
     
No, do not leave the Church. That is not a solution. That is their aim. That you either leave the Church or follow him (Tomek). Both is wrong. So do not do either. Keep battling, do not waver, soon you'll thank Him (God) for his favour. What will you achieve if you leave? Remember some things done, cannot later be undone. Be patient and still. The Lord will help you carry this cross. But, do not leave Church. Ask yourself, is that "GOD's" will? (AUS)
 
COMMENT 5:
     
To comment 3, wow!! We all knew there was a baptism coming up in Brisbane but yes you are right. The confession part is very awkward for a father to hear his sons sins. Is that so no one else would know what sin his son has done & he wants that kept quiet???!!! Seems that way. Keeps his families sins all hidden for no other ears to hear. Makes me think about that more now.
   
For the person who wrote the topic. I feel for you and I am praying for you. You know what is still right as the Holy Spirit is guiding you. There is another church of ours in Altona. I heard they are ALL FULL of love and kindness and everyone says Hello to everyone. There are no groups, they are all ONE. The sermons are really inspiring and fulfilling, and the singing is sooooo beautiful. I heard them on a CD & wow, I haven't heard singing that beautiful in many years. Imagine how nice it will sound when personally there???!!! What each soul needs is inspiration, love and guidance. If you are not receiving it then pray and let God lead you, but do not be afraid. (AUS)
 
COMMENT 6:
     
There is a reason why they are still attending that church. They must all be very similar. As for the person who wrote 'do not leave', you clearly are a lost sheep sitting quietly and listening to every command the shameful Tomek makes. Examine yourself before giving such advice! You clearly are lost considering you attend such a hateful church. Yes, I also have spoken with a few from Altona and they say 'we finally look forward to Sundays'. I look forward to visiting Altona in the coming weeks. (AUS)

Don't leave the Nazarene Faith, you can move to another Nazarene Church, that is Godly and Biblically correct.
Remember your duty first in the teaching of St. Matthew 18: 15-17 and Titus 3:10,11:
10 A man that is an heretic after the first and second admonition reject;
11 Knowing that he that is such is subverted, and sinneth, being condemned of himself. (AUS)

I wrote Comment No.4, and now replying to Comment No.6. I have salvation. And I have peace with God. I am not a lost sheep. Why are you judging me? Do not attack me personally, attack my point (if it is incorrect). Do you remember what Christ said? "Love your enemies". It is not sound advice to recommend someone to leave Church, nor is it the will of God. What did Job say? Shall we only accept good days, but not persecution. This is a test. Are you willing to carry the cross? Or, should you flee when wolves circle us? Read Z.H 171 verse 3. Help should be offered to those who are suffering, and not a recommendation to stop attending Church.
 
COMMENT 9:
     
To comments 4 & 6: You don't have to start throwing stones at each other but yes, attending the church where there's too many problems, it's not beneficial spiritually nor mentally. (AUS)
 
COMMENT 10:
     
Leaving the Nazarene Faith is one thing, and start attending a different Nazarene Church is a second thing. I think we have these 2 topics a little confused. (AUS)
 
COMMENT 11:
     
To comment 4 and 8. You seriously are a lost sheep. Nobody is leaving church, they are leaving Janko's church not the faith and it is written. Matt 10. 22,23,24. And they will be hated by all for My name's sake. But he who endures to the end will be saved.... When they persecute you in this city (CHURCH), flee to another. No one is judging you. Just because you serve Janko (your boss) doesn't mean we all have to serve him. (AUS)
 
COMMENT 12:
     
Comment 8, my apologies for sounding somewhat abrupt. My point is this: your advice is not beneficial for the soul that is hurting. You are saying they should put up with it despite the fact that they don't know where to turn. Is it Biblical to be spiritually abused by the leaders of the church? Is it Biblical to be constantly judged by the leaders of the church? Is it Biblical to be constantly discouraged from leaders of the church? The answer is no! The fellowship sounds gravely ill and to me it sounds like you are attending a cult and not a church. Are you sitting quietly or are you standing up for what is Biblical? My advice to this soul would be: Leave the cult and follow Jesus. (AUS) 
 
COMMENT 13:
     
To comment No. 11. You must not change the Word of God, changing the Word of God is sin. The Bible does not say, "When they persecute you in this Church, flee to another". What the Word of God DOES say is, 2Ti.3:12
"Yea, and ALL that will live godly in Christ Jesus shall suffer persecution". And, 2Ti.2:12  "If we suffer, we shall also reign with him: if we deny him, he also will deny us:" You need to learn that real and true Christians were persecuted, are being persecuted, and will be persecuted. This is normal. A Christian without a cross, is not a Christian. Are you fully aware that we are on earth and not in heaven? I am not attacking you personally (I am not attacking your person), I am opposing your point and argument. (AUS)
 
COMMENT 14:
     
Janko thinks whoever follows him will be saved. Comment 8 is a two face who is pretending to be buddies with all. (AUS)
 
COMMENT 15:
     
Fleeing the cross: Christians need to carry what we all need to carry. But, when a Church doesn’t function Biblically, and after the admonishments of members that follow the right, being continually rejected, the Bible doesn’t teach us to just sit there and carry THAT cross. This is not the cross Christ carried. Christ proved people wrong, and moved to other cities. Christ didn’t stay in each city until people that sinned WILFULLY repent from their sins. This is the cross you are probably talking about. The Bible doesn’t teach us this cross that you seem to be talking about. The Bible teaches us in Matthew 18:15-17 what the duty is of admonishing and reminding members of their sins. The last step states that he/she is a publican/heathen. A heathen means a non-Jew or in our times a non-spiritual Jew, or a non-member. If the Fellowship allows members that are non-members to stay in the fellowship and remain as free members, is that Christ's Fellowship?
To comment No 13: Can you give me an honest answer to this question?
Nobody is trying to say here that we shouldn’t carry the cross. This is not a question. What is a question is 2 Corinthians 6:14, Hebrews 10:26, Titus 3:10.
Not all Nazarene Churches are real Nazarene Churches. You need to remember this. Real Nazarene Churches does NOT permit non-members to be in fellowship with THE Fellowship. This is where each Church proves how they REALLY stand for the right, if and when and HOW they permit sin, and how they deal with sin. Baring the cross as a Christian does not fit in with the code of allowing the member in sin to stay in the Fellowship, if we are the true Nazarene Church of Christ’s. (AUS)
 
COMMENT 16:
     
To comment 13, no one is changing the word of God. I have put the chapter and verses down so open your Bible if you have one or is St Matthew changing the Word of God? If we are supposed to be persecuted by Janko and his clan, Jesus would have said to his disciples to listen and obey the Pharisees but instead he said the Pharisees have no eternal life. Jesus had nothing to do with Pharisees (Janko). They don't practice what they preach, in Janko's case he doesn't even preach the Word but makes up his own version of the Bible. You clearly don't understand the Bible because you are blinded by Janko. (AUS)
 
COMMENT 17:
     
To comment 8. You must have the new revised version of the New Testament. Its the Gospel according to Janko yeah. (AUS)
 
COMMENT 18:
     
To comment No. 16. I am trying hard not to argue, but instead to logically explain, yet it seems to me that you are drawing me into an argument, and that is not what I want to do. It is better to discuss things in a respectful way. If we throw mud at each other nothing good will be acheived. Correct me if I am wrong. (AUS)
 
COMMENT 19:
     
To comment No.15 Ask yourself, are you looking for reasons not to carry the cross? According to your interpretation (as I understand it) Heb. 10:27 is incorrect. For I know this, that after my departing shall grievous wolves enter in among you, not sparing the flock. Also of your own selves shall men arise, speaking perverse things, to draw away disciples after them. Therefore watch, and remember, that by the space of three years I ceased not to warn every one night and day with tears. Acts 20:29,30,31. After this verse it does not recommend to leave Church. "OF YOUR OWN SELVES", All that is written in the Word of God WILL be fulfilled. If you stop attending Church, then how could 2 Peter 2:1 be true/fulfilled? But there were false prophets also among the people, even as there SHALL BE false teachers "AMONG YOU", who privily shall bring in damnable heresies. How clear is that? FALSE TEACHERS AMONG "YOU". You will not find peace on earth, be sure of that. There "are" false apostles, For such are false apostles, deceitful workers, transforming themselves into the apostles of Christ. 2Corin.11:13 It cannot be that this be not fulfilled. In journeying often, in perils of waters, in perils of robbers, ... ... ... in perils among false brethren; Read Gal 2:4  And that because of FALSE BRETHREN unawares brought in, who came in privily to spy out our liberty which we have in Christ Jesus, that they might bring us into bondage: IT CANNOT BE THAT THE WORD OF GOD BE NOT FULFILLED. And how will it** be fulfilled, if you stop attending Church? This **it being, "there SHALL be false teachers and brethren -AMONG YOU-"?? Also I have another point: we as soldiers of the Lord cannot choose what battles (cross) we will confront. Soldiers do not choose their battles (cross), the Captain (Jesus Christ) decides what (cross) we should carry. Do you know better that Christ? WHEN I COMMIT MYSELF TO CHRIST 100% NO CROSS WILL BE TOO DIFFICULT TO CARRY. The Lord is good and will not place on us more than we can carry. THE LORD CARRIED THE CROSS FOR US ON GOLGOTHA, WILL YOU CARRY THE CROSS FOR THE LORD? Site manager, be sure to post this message, please. (AUS) 

That is true Bro, comment 19. That happened, is happening and will happen.
All your quoted verses are true and valid.
How do you interpret: 2 Corinthians 6:14, Hebrews 10:26, Titus 3:10, Matthew 18:17.
Give me some examples of your interpretation.
Are you able to give an honest answer to my question:
- If the Fellowship allows members that are non-members to stay in the fellowship and remain as free members, is that Christ's Fellowship? (AUS)

Such a sick feeling knowing it is knocked down. Janko might get punished on this Earth or he might not be but we know that he will. Janko is in such deep sin that he doesn't know what is right or wrong. He is so deep into sin that he (and his whole family & clan) think everything they do is right. Janko & Martha will be so happy to see these photos knowing that they have accomplished what they wanted. We will all see what God has in store for their future. (AUS)

We would really hope and pray that Masterminds Mister Pentsa and Tomek repent... refer following verses in Nehemiah 1:2-4:
2 That Hanani, one of my brethren, came, he and certain men of Judah; and I asked them concerning the Jews that had escaped, which were left of the captivity, and concerning Jerusalem.
3 And they said unto me, The remnant that are left of the captivity there in the province are in great affliction and reproach: the wall of Jerusalem also is broken down, and the gates thereof are burned with fire.
4 And it came to pass, when I heard these words, that I sat down and wept, and mourned certain days, and fasted, and prayed before the God of Heaven. (AUS)

It's very sad and very shocking how the church is being destroyed because of corrupted church leaders who sold the church without asking ALL its members then stealing the money, doing whatever THEY want to do with it. I guess we will all see on judgement day what God thinks on what they have done and are going to do. They have No fear of God otherwise they would have never done such a thing. No conscious either. It's actually a really good thing that they are in the bush, away from the world because people would be seeing the corruption and hatred and think that that's how Christians act. This way they can do their corruption where no one sees them but God. They are not a light to the world, they are actually pitch black darkness. They only put shame on God and the faith. So you never know, maybe God did have a plan for Janko to go into the bush so the world doesn't see all the corruption and sin that Janko is doing and puts all the shame on The Lord and the faith. (AUS)

Comment 1 is spot on. Matthew 5:14 You are the light of the world. A city that is set on a hill cannot be hidden. Nor do they light a lamp and put it under a basket, but on a lampstand, and it gives light to all who are in the house. Janko is building a church under the busket in darkness so only his followers follow him. Only cults build churches in forests and farms so nobody can see what they do. (AUS)

Pentsa and Tomek not only do they defile people's souls, they also defile God's Church.
But, they obviously have forgotten these verses...
1 Corinthians 3:
16 Know ye not that ye are the temple of God, and that the Spirit of God dwelleth in you?
17 If any man defile the temple of God, him shall God destroy; for the temple of God is holy, which temple ye are. (AUS)

Being a bully is the easiest way to get what you want. Here we have ACCN church groups where people usually have to work together, and work out how to live as Christians. That means give and take, compromise and collaboration. Bullying, however, means you can get anything and everything you want. You can bend people to your wills and desires without giving anything up in return. And as a bully, you don’t have to work with, consider or respect others. Bullying is the easiest way to get what you want.

Bullies can offer anonymous feedback. Churches are already pretty good at not requiring people to stand behind what they say. We send out surveys and feedback tools that remain anonymous. But bullies have it really great. They can send anonymous emails to leaders. They can give in-person feedback with the qualifier, "people are saying." Bullies never have to own the criticisms, and so are free to criticize anything they want to.

Bullies often have gossip clubs. Bullies are often supported in a small group that likes to keep up on the latest church gossip. This kind of group can meet for coffee during the week or lunch on Sundays or any number of places. As a bully, you can find allies who are ready to support you, who will offer behind-the-scenes support to your behind-the-scenes bullying. It is always easier to bully when you can be confident you are supported by, or acting on behalf of a club. (AUS)

Can you please take Philip's photo off this site as he is a victim now and the one getting bullied and abused? (AUS)

OUR COMMENT: Who is that?

Philip may change, and CAN change. Give him time, and let's pray that God reveals things to him. And let's hope Philip REALISES that some things he is going through now, is what ALTONA 2 was going through from Tomek and Pentsa. eg. abuse, rejection, humiliation, hatred, sowing discord among brethren, justifying the wicked AND condemning the righteous... etc.

It's quite often that a lot of people see this only THEN when they are going through it. Where were you before?

Well, its always better ever then never!! (AUS)

There are ACCN members who have never done anything for Jesus Christ but for man they have done, I have no doubt there are preachers as well, who have never done anything for God or the Church but for themselves and man. If it was for God, there would be unity and great love not fake love. (AUS)
 
COMMENT 5:
     
Comment 1, are you talking about Joe Ruzeu? Yes, he is a minister supporter as well. (AUS)

We All Want To SEE a new photo of Philip with his proud beard. We as Christians should not be proud nor uplifting ourselves as the Pharisees but humbling ourselves as true Christian's. Dear Philip Just STUDY the Hymn Amazing Graze, (I was Blind But Now I See). (AUS)

Who cares about the beard! Yes it doesn't look nice but it's a personal choice. I think it suits the front row anyhow. They are a strange bunch after all. (AUS)

Having a beard will not stop that person from entering Heaven. It has nothing to do with salvation but ALL the HATRED & bullying from Janko, Martha & their supporters have a lot to repent for because HATRED does not enter the Kingdom of God. If Philip wants a beard, let him. It's his choice. There are much much more important things to worry about than a beard. Good on Philip for having a beard. We all know Janko gave him many warnings to get rid of it otherwise... Janko's blood is boiling because Philip will not listen to him & Janko hates the beard. Always full of hatred Janko is. Janko & Martha & their supporters will be laughing at all these comments regarding Philip because they love it when others get bullied & not them. Their lives are not over. Many many people from Melbourne & interstate churches call Martha the nasty one. That's because she's shown her nasty side to all & always bring rude & mean & always snapping when she talks. Always a posh stuck up face with nasty replies. Their lives are not over yet. Time for repentance is very short. The Lord is coming soon. (AUS)

Let's look at the bigger picture here - Janko Tomek, the one who was baptized unrepented and had caused division and trouble in Altona from the beginning. He had left Altona church after causing much trouble back in the day and started his own in Laverton for a good 15 or so years. Then he came back and continued with his same dirty work, caused another division, sold a church building which did not belong to him and now you would think he'd be at peace now that he has accomplished his desire of selling and running with the money. (AUS)

The sad thing is that the little Tomek group use the church funds to travel to Sydney and Adelaide when required. Years ago people would pay their own way if they chose to go, but to pay for or look after the elderly. They just don't care. (AUS)
 
COMMENT 2:
     
You mean Tomek and Papuga? Vlado Papuga is Tomek number 2 in the church. He is now doing all the dirty work on Tomek's behalf. (AUS)

Not much to report from the members meeting in Tarneit. Janko behaved nicely and the new (more or less new) church committee has been elected: Joe and John Ruzeu, Dano Tomek (Janko's son), Steven Kolarik (Janko's son-in-law), John Suhanek, Matthew and Vasa Ardeljan.

Ephesians 5:27

That he might present it to himself a glorious church, not having spot, or wrinkle, or any such thing; but that it should be holy and without blemish.

Is the Lord going to come for "the glorious church"?
or
For committee run denominations?

What’s committee's got to do with Gods Church?

Committee means: a small group of people chosen to represent an organization and make decisions for it.

Is the Church working here?
or
Are committee members working here to make decisions for the Church? (AUS)

OUR COMMENT: You are right, there is no "committee" in the Nazarene faith, there is only The Church, which is The Body of Christ. If all the members have the Holy Spirit then all the members should be allowed to make decisions on their own behalf, instead of being forced to delegate someone else. Also, note that there are no women in Janko's "committee", although they are in the majority in Tarneit as well as in many other Nazarene churches. The Bible says that women should not be priests, but the New Testament does not say anything about excluding women from managing the church. Suppression of their rights is more a cultural thing than Biblical. The history of the early Christian church remembers some very influential female figures, for example check who went with the apostles to the upper room in Acts 1:14. When Mary the mother of Jesus or Mary Magdalene spoke, men listened. 

A decent man was appointed for ministry in a Church. Another minister was jealous and tried to put him off with all kinds of evasive remarks publicly and privately. The decent man became aware that he was not welcome there and finally told the wolfish minister that he would pray about it. After several months he returned. "Well," asked the minister, "Did the Lord give you a message?" "Yes Sir, He did" was the decent man's answer. "He told me it wasn't any use. He said, "I've been trying to get into that man's heart myself for years and he won't let me in either." (AUS)

Ezekiel 44:8
And ye have not kept the charge of mine holy things: but ye have set keepers of my charge in my sanctuary for yourselves.
Perfect answer to COMMITTEE MEMBERS!!
Don't be fooled!
Be wise!
You have been warned! (AUS)

Anyone who says committee is good has been deceived. They are partly responsible for the current divisions. Those in the front bench are fully responsible.
Romans 16:17 ESV / 147
I appeal to you, brothers, to watch out for those who cause divisions and create obstacles contrary to the doctrine that you have been taught; avoid them. (AUS)

A reply to "Janko Tomek Stand-up Comedian"
We all should Stand up for Jesus and all righteousness of what we believe, that we can speak out a loud on this site on what hurts us that others may be aware of that they to may NOT be speared with the same dart of the Devil as Others, as he may have speared you.
Be not afraid of man or Janko Tomek, Paul Pentsa or any Elder but be afraid of GOD.
Continue to write on this web site what hurts your soul. Amen. (AUS)

The true Churches of God are not franchised out to committees. There are no "committees" in the Nazarene faith. If a Church is run by committees, then it's not a true Nazarene faith, it's something else. But what is it then? Will the Lord return for his holy bride (the Church), or for a church run by committees? Let it be clear to all that it's one or the other, but not both! The Fellowship of Christ is run by Christ, he is the head of the body (which is the Church). The true Fellowship of Christ is "not" run by committees. (AUS) 
 
COMMENT 7:
     
It is unfortunate that there are no women within the committee. God never excluded women in representing or preaching His Kingdom. Did you know that the first Christian preachers were female? After the resurrection of the Christ Jesus, the angel at the tomb commanded Mary of Magdala and Mary the mother of James to proclaim to the disciples that their Lord has risen - and they did! The very first preachers were women! Sorry to disappoint you, men, but God loves to turn things up-side down. Read Luke 24:1-10 and Mark 16:1-10. It is a sad reality that spiritually immature and undeveloped congregations such as those found at Tarneit just don't get it. Galatians 3:27-28 - "...For all of you who were baptized into Christ have clothed yourselves with Christ. There is neither Jew nor Greek, there is neither slave nor free man, there is neither MALE nor FEMALE; for you are all one in Christ Jesus.." (AUS)

We have a meeting on Friday (Martha Kolarik Slovak church) and no one knows what topics will be spoken. Does anyone have any idea or is everyone kept in the dark again? (AUS)

OUR COMMENT: Well, that's an old Janko's and Pentsa's tactics, to TELL people what they want to tell them, but without giving them enough time to DISCUSS it. Paul and Janko will later say that nobody complained and everyone agreed with their ideas. No matter how childish, this and other similar schemes almost always work.

Janko said it will just be a general meeting. Non-members not welcome. (AUS)

OUR COMMENT: The summer is coming so Janko probably wants to warn you not to wear short sleaves. 

You say you are kept in the Dark. Well I can say You are all in the Dark, the blind leading the blind and all will fall into the bottomless pit. (AUS)

Blind leading the blind is spot on! (AUS)

To Comment 2 I agree with you; They will all fall into bottomless pit because Janko Tomek is their leader. (AUS)
 
COMMENT 5:
   
Comment 2 and Comment 4, disgraceful behaviour! God will judge in the end. We all need to be very careful with what we say. Everyone will be judged according to their own works, so let's all worry about our own souls rather than telling others where they will end up. If you are unhappy at Tarneit church, you have the option of going to Altona church. Let's stop with all the hate posts and make a positive change. (AUS)
 
COMMENT 6:
   
Amen to comment 5. (AUS)
 
COMMENT 7:
   
to comment 5
yes.... spot on!!
let's make a positive change.
so, when ANY member is humiliated, make fun of, discouraged to do right, treated unfairly, condemned for their right, justified for their wrong, told to close your mouth because he/she is backing the right, expelled by an assistant elder or elder without the Church agreeing on it... etc, YOU stand up and voice the correct opinion according to the Faith.
this WILL definitely make a HUGE positive change.
can we see this happening?
please respond. (AUS)
 
COMMENT 8:
   
Comment 7, leadership do not allow members to voice their opinion unless it is of some benefit to them. Every member at Tarneit already knows this, so if one still chooses to attend such a gathering, be prepared to suffer the consequences. (AUS)

We checked with the city council and the company that gave them the permit on the 28-7-2014 and they both said that they are waiting for Janko's group to contact them for the final inspection. Then they will get occupancy certificate. But this group failed to do so and the permit company said no one is allowed to gather there until they come out to inspect the portable church. If it is not up to regulation, they will shut it down until they give the go ahead and certificate. (AUS)

WOW, what a assistant elder, leading his sheep to a building that no one is allowed to gather in. And he knew it. He is a sick man with his followers. They all know these facts. (AUS)
 

COMMENT 2:     For all those wondering if they should gather at new portable, please call and talk to anyone in the offices of: Wyndham City Building Dept. phone 03 9742 0718 or MKT building surveyors phone 03 9364 6781 and Mihn is the man who issued permit. Both departments say there is no final inspection nor occupancy certificate. Please let them know it is property No. 1431 and lot No. 39 when you call and they will explain how no one is to gather there until they issue certificate that it was built to their code of standard. Property is on corner of Dohertys Rd. and Gard Rd. (AUS)

The building regulations of illegal occupation of a building states that you can be prosecuted for entering without an occupancy certificate. You also need insurance cover. This is not Padina Janko, we have a OH&S code we need to abide by. (AUS)

Does this refugee camp have drinking water, we know High Commissioner for Refugees (HCR) recommends that we should have fresh drinking water. In addition, clean water and plumbing is done to the highest quality standard and has been installed by a licence plumber decreasing the chances of disease spread through water contamination and pollution. It is essential to provide safe portables that are free of physical hazards. The presence of dampness and mold is associated with a range of symptoms and illnesses, including aches and pains, digestive disorders, and respiratory tract infections. Crowded, cramped conditions have also been associated with acute respiratory infections, and poor mental health among children. A study done in abusive institutions demonstrated the poor temporarily building conditions in refugee camps and found that living in a transitional camp as compared to a permanent building was a significant risk factor for coughs, stomach ailments, headaches, and generally feeling unwell. Poor housing also is correlated with an increased presence of rodents, which causes an increased incidence of Lassa fever in abusive conditions. Inadequate housing is also an important public health issue because it can lead to anxiety, stress and even high blood pressure. (AUS)
   
COMMENT 5:
     
Does the Tarneit portable church have drinking water? In case of bush fire or building fire, do they have an emergency evacuation plan? (AUS)
 
COMMENT 6:
     
Do they welcome Bro Paul Pentsa as their Elder? (AUS)
 

Melbourne - The long-living church in Altona North has been officially closed down. After a short sermon Janko Tomek and his supporters took the members and the guests to the temporary (portable) church in Tarneit, for singing. There were guests from Brisbane and also from other congregations in Melbourne. Nobody from the Altona 2 group came, of course, as they were not invited. The Altona 2 group will have their services in a community centre in Altona. We do not know what the new owners plan to do with the old church building, but its demolition may start soon. If you want to share your thoughts and feelings regarding all this, here is your chance...

Ezr 3:12 But many of the priests and Levites and chief of the fathers, who were ancient men, that had seen the first house, when the foundation of this house was laid before their eyes, wept with a loud voice; and many shouted aloud for joy:
Ezr 3:13 So that the people could not discern the noise of the shout of joy from the noise of the weeping of the people: for the people shouted with a loud shout, and the noise was heard afar off. (AUS)

There is still a Church in Altona. The one on Millers Road. They may be even more holier. Try them, they too are Nazarenes. (AUS)

Return and repent for the Lord Jesus Himself solemnly warned us of this sin in Luke 12:15: "And he said unto them, Take heed, and beware of covetousness. For a man's life consisteth not in the abundance of the things which he possesseth." You see, the sin that nobody admits is covetousness.

People just simply don't say "Well, I'm a covetous person. I want to get hold of that extra dollar." When you take a church or house or money that belongs to others it is called stealing. (AUS)

So that was the end of the most toxic church in Australia? Not a huge loss. (AUS)

COMMENT 6:
    
Not a loss at all. Very happy that it is finally separated and people can go where it best suits them! (AUS)

Correction to comment 5, Altona group 1 was and still is the toxic church. (AUS)

Even though they are now separated, one thing I know is Altona 1 will still have no peace. They are the larger group who are all hating on each other. All at war with one another and not a single nice word to say about their fellow brothers or sisters. (AUS)

Comment 5 the building is not toxic, Altona 1 corrupt leadership and man followers are toxic. (AUS)

This is a very sad when a Christian robs another Christian (punishing Christians for no proper reason just because you hate them is sin, selling a church when so many are against it is sin, it scatters the sheep, that is sin. It looks like covetous is not a sin anymore. We are supposed to trust one another. Every single Christian should give it very earnest attention and heed its message. The Lord is just saying here, you go ahead. If that's the way you want it, get anything you want. Keep the things that are not yours. Make provisions for more and more sins. You have the right to choose, but when the day of reckoning comes and your soul will be required of you, a person can go along and be quite a respectable Christian as far as other people are concerned, and yet be guilty of coveting. (AUS)

Comment No 9 is very correct. (AUS)

To comment 10.  Some people are real Christians, and some people pretend to be Christians. (AUS)

Please brother Paul, come quickly and do what you said you will do. Come and take Janko Tomek down, he already has done so much damage in our church. A lot of my friends and brothers and sisters have left. Who knows how many more will leave after this weekend... you have lost a big majority of people in Altona and Janko is loving it because he is getting only his Slovaks to stay. And then he will have a vote for eldership and they will vote him in. (AUS)

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