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ACCN Forum | PP part of a splinter group?

Wondering
Australia
9 Oct 2016 11:23

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Did PP split from one of the Romanian Churches in Canada and/or the Church where Trajan Florika was attending years ago?

and did this PP come to Australia remaining in this split?

PP is part of the first splinter group in Australia.

This doesn't make any sense when you read the minutes from our brothers meeting held in Marsden years back.

I wonder whether ANY of us from Marsden really know any back ground of PP's past actions or not?

PP is part of this first splinter group in Australia, yet wants to implement that we should not offer the splinter groups to minister, or to hold a prayer while visiting.

hypocrisy with PP
Australia
29 Nov 2016 23:38

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hmmm, interesting to see how PP views the meaning of the words 'hypocrisy" and "cunning".

he is implementing this RULE, yet he offers Elder Arnold to hold a prayer at his own wife's FUNERAL!!!!

(Arnold in PP's eyes is part of a "splinter" group)

it must have been, certainly, a way to retrieve info from Arnold, dont you all agree?

info on David Nicholson, or the appointing of Elder Assistant M.Cucanic in Altona, or how to stop US Elders coming to AU....the list surely goes on, dont you all agree?

PP is pretty good at his cunning actions, dont you all agree?

anyone can ask anyone of the 100 or so people that attended the funeral to verify this, dont you all agree?


cunning means:
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skillful in planning and ready to deceive people in order to get what you want.

hypocrisy means:
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pretending to be what you are not, or pretending to believe something that you do not.

Amazing.
Australia
30 Nov 2016 17:02

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This is getting worse and worse every day. Who does this PP think he is.....
Why is everybody so scared to stand up to him? Christians should stand up for the truth. He does as he pleases and all the members just take it. My goodness please stand up for your rights and the truth of GOD. Don't let PP rule over all of you. You are all equal in the sight of GOD. There should not be one person allowed to rule over members. Elders are put up to serve the congregation and not rule over them. No wonder that the Nazarene faith is diminishing instead of growing. PLEASE...PLEASE STAND UP FOR YOUR FAITH.

capable guy
Australia
30 Nov 2016 23:53

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its probably the reason why no other Elder wants to work with him!!

- he can baptise his children
- he can marry his children
- he can bury his wife, and hold the service at her funeral
etc
- what else cant he do?

why would he need ANY correspondence with ANY Elders????

the only thing he HASNT done yet, is to anoint assistant elders to become Elders.

it would be interesting WHO will recognise this, if he does it by himself.

other Elders worldwide have a feeling, conscience and the Spirit's leading too!!

times are running out, and quite quickly with this PP.



Interesting Comment
Canada
1 Dec 2016 9:53

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I READ THIS IN AN EARLIER POST AND THOUGHT IT WAS QUITE INTERESTING SO I CCOPIED AND ATTACHED IT. IT GOES ALONG WITH THE PP SPLINTER GROUP COMMENTS AND EMPHASIZES THE ROGUE LEADERSHIP COMMENTS ALSO

It's really sad & heartbreaking how Australia seems to attract every Loser that wants to be a Leader, but can't make it anywhere else in the world.... so they set up camp in Australia.
Janko has been an Assistant Elder for probably 10 years (probably the longest serving Elder Assistant in all Nazarean Church History....not exactly what you want to be known as or remembered for). He can't ever get enough votes for a Confirmation. They even go as far as to lower the Confirm Percentage, and he still doesn't get the Churches Support. So his only option left is he has to have his Master Paul appoint him Elder as that will be the only way he can ever get in. WOW talk about "Unscrupulous Character"
Paul Pentsa was a Preacher in Kitchener at the Romanian Mansion Street Church along with his Brothers. When they were removed from the ministry because of their constant fighting and problems they were causing, they couldn't humbly accept the serving Elders Resolution so they left & started their own Pentsa Church.
They had to shut that down as they were threatened with expulsion if they didn't return to either the Romanian Church or Sydney Street Church.
They chose Sydney Street but only for a short while, and then Paul packed up and came down to Australia to grace you all with his presence and Self-Promote his way into the Eldership.
The pitiful Pentsa tradition & ritual of trying to be a "Somebody" and be in a "Position of Power and Leadership" continues.......

You know... I once heard it said, that if you want to know if you are a "Good Leader", simply stop and turn around. If no one is following you, then you are definitely not Leadership Material.
I think Paul & Janko ought to heed the above or they will find themselves by themselves.


MARSDEN
Australia
1 Dec 2016 16:38

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Paul Pentsa was a Preacher in Kitchener at the Romanian Mansion Street Church along with his Brothers. When they were removed from the ministry because of their constant fighting and problems they were causing, they couldn't humbly accept the serving Elders Resolution so they left & started their own Pentsa Church.
They had to shut that down as they were threatened with expulsion if they didn't return to either the Romanian Church or Sydney Street Church.
They chose Sydney Street but only for a short while, and then Paul packed up and came down to Australia to grace you all with his presence and Self-Promote his way into the Eldership.

Moderator
Australia
2 Dec 2016 11:44

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In some other times and circumstances that man would be sending people to the gallows, as a result of his monumental self-righteousness and bigotry. We are lucky he does not have that sort of power.

kitchener voice
USA
26 Dec 2017 10:41

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People in Kitchener have long known not to trust the Pentsa clan who are constantly in search of power and position - and think they know best. That Pentsa Church in Kitchener was closed and converted to Rovero Day Care and a few years later the entire property was closed. This after they were heard to have solicited and accepted funds from outside of Kitchener, for their church, including from the Sabo family in Edmonton Alberta. The elder Frank Sabo was heard to be quite upset when he found out that his family and his church's donation went to a 'church' that was later turned into a private business (daycare) and later sold to have the property redeveloped. Did the Pentsas(Nick Sr, Roman, Paul etc) ever return any of the donaters' money? Time has passed and likely many did not not know, or have forgotten these facts. Be not deceived; God is not mocked: for whatsoever a man soweth, that shall he also reap.Galatians 6:7 Perhaps others can shed light is this almost forgotten piece of Kitchener church history.

sinning willingly
Australia
26 Dec 2017 14:57

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the pentsa clan obviously forget these biblical verses:

2 Corinthians 5:10

For we must all appear before the judgment seat of Christ; that every one may receive the things done in his body, according to that he hath done, whether it be good or bad.

and

Ecclesiastes 8:11

Because sentence against an evil work is not executed speedily, therefore the heart of the sons of men is fully set in them to do evil.

2 Timothy 4:3

For the time will come when they will not endure sound doctrine; but after their own lusts shall they heap to themselves teachers, having itching ears;

Hebrews 10:26

For if we sin wilfully after that we have received the knowledge of the truth, there remaineth no more sacrifice for sins,



Splinter group
Australia
30 Dec 2017 16:51

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Of course he's started one, money has been laundered through a false business and it's Melbourne branch will be led by a family member just a Hop Cross from the city centre.


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Paul Pentsa
Brisbane
Janko Tomek
Melbourne
Andrew Szabo
Perth
Vlada Papuga
Melbourne
Philip Ruzeu
Melbourne
Nick Pentsa
Brisbane
Michael Stanjo
Melbourne
STAY AWAY FROM THIS MAN! His mouth is full of Biblical verses but his heart is filled with hatred, jealousy, treachery and lust for power. This FALSE CHRISTIAN is the root of almost all evil in ACCN in Australia and he will even take you to court, if he can't get his way.
Janko is pretty much like Paul, dishonest and unloving, just less intelligent. Janko is now building his humongous "warehouse" in Tarneit, destined to remain void of both faith and members. This UNREPENTED SINNER is still dreaming about becoming an elder!
Hard-hearted and egoistic, this long-time "elder" has caused immense grief, division and misery amongst the Nazarenes in Australia. Some even call him a sadist... not that Andrew really cares about anyone's opinion, though. Currently residing in a nursing home in Perth.
Earned his nickname by constantly repeating "Ljubazni" (Dear Ones) while preaching. This recently appointed "elder assistant" is ambitious, but at the same time not clever enough to realize he will always be just Paul's and Janko's messenger boy.
Philip is Paul Pentsa's son-in-law and definitely his best student. Proud, stubborn, arrogant - a classic bigot. Due to his off-putting personality and some weird beliefs, he's not on very good terms with Janko Tomek and other Slovaks in Tarneit.
Here is your future Elder, whether you like the idea or not. Nicky is "a very nice guy". No gift for preaching or leadership skills, but being Paul Pentsa's son, he's actually got everything he needs. Sooner or later his Dad will find the way to install him as his successor.
Janko Tomek's loyal admirer and bodyguard - sleazy, hypocritical, dishonest and ignorant. His interpretation of the Scriptures can make you laugh as well as his awkward sermons in broken English.


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