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ACCN Forum | Classic Homes (QLD) Pty Ltd - 2

Moderator
Australia
17 Jul 2017 10:43

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...This thread is a continuation of:



Classic Homes (QLD) Pty Ltd - 1
http://www.accn-australia.com/Page1.php?topic/1662/classic-homes-qld-pty-ltd-1

Please post all new comments here. Thank you.


Moderator
Australia
17 Jul 2017 11:45

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Pro & contra from Google Reviews.




More reviews...


Ray Wall:

Looks like Classic Homes is closed. The kind of closed that involves clearing out their office and not paying their suppliers and sub-contractors.


Navdeep Gill:

I just dont know where to start and what to write. All i want to say is just "classic homes are classic in turning your dreams to worst nightmares". This day today is 21st of june 2017. We were supposed to be moving into out new house by 31st may, but we are still renting. They have asked us for heaps of extensions foe finishing the house which we agreed with but now we had enough and havent given them any extensions. They havent even complied with their own contract. We have tried contacting them but with no luck. They havent replied back to us at all. No emails no phone calls from them. Now we have filed a complaint to QBCC against them. Hopefully we end up with a house sometime next year the way they have taken their time. We would strongly suggest everyone to please research and find the better company for your dream home. No one should ever have to face such type of consequences.


Truong Li:

Bought home and land package for investing and now have good return. Landscaping and fencing included. Will build again.


Aryan Ahuja:

I have only had great experiences with Classic Homes. Classic Homes had very friendly staff and all my concerns were answered immediately with the build, also the price they had was exceptional, all other builder we looked at could not compete with the price and quality Classic Homes had to offer for me and my family. All we can say to Classic Homes is we had a great experience building our first home stress free. Thank you.


Kay Parsons:

My partner and I are so impressed with the build process. Shelden our on-site supervisor has been updating us every step of the way. When we wanted variations, the team at Classic were so accommodating and happy to oblige. We have built before and when we wanted a variation, we were advised of delays and exorbitant mark up costs, which we paid for but felt upset at being treated like a transaction. We chose Classic this time as I believe being a smaller builder, I'm helping the "little guys" not the corporation. We feel that if we're concerned or worried about anything, Classic Homes is always happy to take our call and we feel my concerns are being actioned.
We are really looking forward to making our house a home.


Kelly Konings:

I have to say that our experience with Classic Homes for our first home build, was nothing but perfection! There eye for detail is at supreme quality!! Our build project manager Josh, was highly professional, and kept in touch with us at least a couple times a week to keep us updated with the build progess. Everything from the slab, through to painting and landscaping was brilliant. If Josh wasn't happy with anything, he would have it done again, until it was at the highest quality, that is Classic Homes core values!! Classic Homes also stays in touch, just to see that no issues have arised, which they haven't. We have been blessed, and are very happy!! My husband and I would totally recommend Classic Homes to anyone!!


Doug Coyle:

Great builder to annoy your neighbours who starts before Brisbane City Council time of 6:30. Be prepared to wake at 5:45 and please report them at any time as BCC is open 24hrs.


Daphne Duazo:

After almost eight months the build is still on the enclosed stage. Worst of all, a new general manager introduce himself via email letter from their accounts with a corresponding additional bill of $51,000 for retaining wall. That has been done first before the actual build. And this was all part of the contract price which has been discussed in detail before I sign the plan. I am lost at the moment because they haven't respond to my email reply yet. I will never sign for a variation form of 51,000. I will painfully pay a lawyer rather than be reaped off. A contract is a contract. I just wish that no other clients are suffering like me right now.


Colin
Australia
18 Jul 2017 23:26

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I have worked for Paul through his Australian company Classics Homes in Queensland. He has personally ripped off me and several other trade and services companies that I am aware of. The sums are mind boggling and A Current Affair is very interested in the facts of this scumbags antics. Has anyone else had any horror stories of bad investments made through this lowlife? Please call me if you have any information to share with me 0404932795 colin@tigeronsite.com.au

Honost
USA
19 Jul 2017 0:19

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Dear Mr. Pentsa,
Do you expect us to believe that your court case against Mr. Laza Krnjuluc, was actually honest and a good deed? do you also expect us to believe Mr. Matei Lincu's story regards Sydney church?
Or was it all pride, revenge and deliberate hatred?


to honost
Australia
19 Jul 2017 11:10

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it was for:

- pride, revenge and deliberate hatred

- need to get you back somehow attitude (exposing of the old man)

- i can do what I want (who am i accountable to??)

- i have the power to baptise and have the power to punish (showing that i can exercise lordship)




marsden lair
Australia
19 Jul 2017 11:38

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Yes, and what to say about those intestinal maggots in mardsen that lived happily for so many years inside pp's rectum, feasting on his crap?
Its time for you to get out, maggots ! Hey, no, wait, fresh air and sunlight might kill you.

the answer
Australia
19 Jul 2017 13:18

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there is only one real answer to why people got away with their rubbish, sin and foul attitudes......

When the sentence for a crime is not quickly carried out, people's hearts are filled with schemes to do wrong.


very true!!!
Australia
19 Jul 2017 15:31

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also

Proverbs 28:5

Evil men do not understand justice, but those who seek the Lord understand it completely.

re: marsden liar
USA
19 Jul 2017 17:29

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Are you calling people who attend marsden ' intestinal maggots?' Is that the best you have? "Hey, no, wait, fresh air and sunlight might kill you...".....
How embarrassing for you, so original and standard.
The only person who you should be hating on is PP.
Also, @ Colin, you might have to track PP for A current affairs!? Be interesting to see how it unfolds.


Questions
Australia
19 Jul 2017 19:01

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There are people in the church that were in absolute awe of PP and his wealth, believing it is evidence of God's favor upon him.
They would say, "Look at how God has richly blessed him" Let us be obedient to him and surely God will bless us with wealth also and make us just like him.
Perhaps that is what the comment of Marsden Lair is about.




re: questions
USA
19 Jul 2017 20:26

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Oh yes, if this is what he means - perhaps he should articulate it better.
He didn't earn his wealth. It shows now.
Hang on....Marsden goers are not at fault here - they were under PP....PP and co (aka family) would be known to say things like that...........and show it in their expensive cars...By the way, how many of them are on centrelink??

PP jnr would talk lots about money being the root of evil when he "tried" ministry.



re A Current Affair
Australia
19 Jul 2017 20:38

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Can just see Brady Halls chasing PP down the road and asking where's the money.
Never underestimate that if ACA did take on this as a story, they do have the resources to find PP and to look into his business dealings, as well as possibly The Nazarene Church.
This forum has a lot of information to help them out too. I truly hope they also get to investigate, the church's bank accounts and if money has been syphoned through there.


Questions
USA
20 Jul 2017 0:16

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I believe Marsden liar is referring those maggots to Paul Pentsa's supporters.

Re: current affair
USA
20 Jul 2017 0:58

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Really- this whole "let's find pp Jr" thing is laughable. Just call to San Diego. He's sitting right there..
He was also seen at Salt Creek beach in Dana Point the other day.
If he really is at fault, then take some actions - he's obviously not hiding.

Questions
USA
20 Jul 2017 1:22

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Perhaps you can also enlighten us as to exactly how much Paul Pentsa stole from trades workers and suppliers.
Thanks

Re: questions
Australia
20 Jul 2017 10:55

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If you go back to the other page a fair few people have noted what they're owed and or lost thanks to their thieving ways. There would be many more people that have lost out that haven't been on this forum. By looks of things it looks like hundreds of thousands of dollars

Moderator
Australia
20 Jul 2017 11:01

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I believe the total damage could be between 2 and 5 million AU dollars, which includes all unfinished homes.

ASIC
Australia
20 Jul 2017 13:54

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https://connectonline.asic.gov.au/RegistrySearch/faces/landing/SearchRegisters.jspx?_adf.ctrl-state=q49hc07nb_4

ASIC showing Locality of registered office as BUNDALL, pretty certain it was something else previously ;

Moderator
Australia
20 Jul 2017 14:53

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Yes, it says Bundal, which is a suburb of the City of Gold Coast.



Moronic
Australia
20 Jul 2017 18:29

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Re: current affair
USA
20 Jul 2017 0:58

257 views Really- this whole "let's find pp Jr" thing is laughable. Just call to San Diego. He's sitting right there..
He was also seen at Salt Creek beach in Dana Point the other day.
If he really is at fault, then take some actions - he's obviously not hiding.

Of course he's hiding, how on Earth is anyone meant to contact him, do you have his address, phone number, email address in San Diego, if so how about supplying them.
Just because he's been seen in San Diego doesn't mean he's not hiding, of course he is. He should be here in Australia answering questions and working out how he's going to pay people back and complete homes that need to be.
How does a man that has no money to pay what he owes, can afford a family holiday to the USA.
Shouldn't his kids also be back at school or don't they need to worry about working in the future as daddy and granddad has money earning interest when they come of age.
Maybe they'll come home after ComicCon which is on in San Diego this weekend, otherwise is he a speedo or boardshorts kind of guy incase I need to fly to San Diego and find him.
Saying it's laughable is the most disturbing moronic statement.



Tested
Australia
20 Jul 2017 23:43

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Bundall could be Pauls Lawyers office ?

Tested
Australia
21 Jul 2017 0:31

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Integrity - the quality of being honest and having strong moral principles.

Come home Paul and face the music. There is no shame in failing. It happens to the best of us. How you conduct yourself in life is what matters and it will make you a better person. You're too young to carry this around without closure. It will destroy you.

to Moronic
USA
21 Jul 2017 3:05

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Paulie IS NOT ON HOLIDAY!! He left Australia in a hurry to get away before everyone starts going after him. He is currently in San Diego.
Unless he is forced to return by the government do not expect to see him in Australia anytime soon.

Re: Moronic
USA
21 Jul 2017 3:09

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Chill out me amigo...

If a word "laughable" is the most disturbing thing in your life, then you've got nothing to complain about.
The statement made above, was basically saying, that if anybody really want to find ppjr- they could easily... and no need for the repeated investigative words.
Did you call or contact anyone of the listed San Diego/Los Angeles people??
If I were set out to find someone I'd be blasting those email addresses and phone numbers non-stop, knowing that those people have immediate contact with your target. Trust me: if you call them enough at all hours, they'd be pressuring ppjr to get the hell out of their lives.
If this guy was hiding, he wouldn't be seen at church...or out in public.


Tradie
Australia
21 Jul 2017 7:09

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There are 32 units not finished
About 90 houses either not finished or not started


Tradie
Australia
21 Jul 2017 7:11

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The outstanding balance will be well over 5 I'm thinking over 10 million.

Two Words
USA
21 Jul 2017 8:54

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BLOOD MONEY!

Moderator
Australia
21 Jul 2017 12:03

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Let me give you some facts. Paulie is in California with his in-laws. His wife's parents live there. Paulie reads this website every day. His father also reads this website. Almost all members of the Marsden church read the website. These days we normally have between 500 and 600 visitors a day, half of them from Queensland.

There is one frequent visitor from San Diego, CA. Thirteen visits in the last three days. This visitor uses two mobile devices, an iPhone and a Sony Xperia Z3. That visitor is obviously PP Jnr. If you have a message for him, you can post it here and be sure he will read it. I am personally a bit dissapointed with his conduct because I expected him to openly address the issues and tell people what is going on, when they will get their money back, and so forth. Or, if there is no money, he should have said it, like: look folks, there is no money, there won't be any money, all gone, ta, finished, take it as it is. But this is more the Pentsa way - make a mess, leave everything like that and play dumb. We've seen it many times within the Nazarene church.

At the end, I am not very optimistic. You simply won't get anything from the Pentsas. They will keep hiding a year or two, till the things settle down, and after that it will be business as usual.

re: moderator
USA
21 Jul 2017 17:05

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HAHA....nice facts there. Half of them from Queensland - meaning tradies.
Mate, PPjnr like his father can make heat, but cant take heat.
I highly doubt, that ppl like him and his family in Marsden.

What action have tradies taken? from those actions - have you heard anything back? investigations?


Moderator
Australia
24 Jul 2017 17:14

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More facts:

- Paulie is in San Diego, with his parents-in-law who live in Orange County (his father-in-law is Nick Oldja).

- He has been there since about the beginning of July.

- Contact Paulie: OLDJA, 24261 Sunnybrook Circle, Lake Forest, CA 92630.
Phone: 949-458-6570

- Paulie is planning to buy a house in San Diego.

- Mark Igic and Andy Olas are aware of the situation but do not seem willing to take any action.

contacts
Australia
24 Jul 2017 17:51

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Mark Igic (elder of San Diego Church)
633 Paseo Rio
Vista, CA, 92081
760-806-1429
mark.igic@gmail.com


Andy Olas (elder of San Diego Church)
872 Del Valle Drv
Fallbrook, CA, 92028
760-731-3104
andy_olas@yahoo.com

Caw-Caw
USA
25 Jul 2017 4:20

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Exactly like you said, a crow does not pluck out the eye of another crow

justice
Australia
25 Jul 2017 12:06

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it can, but it must hurt.

elders are scared to hurt other elders.

but, we always forget that we are hurting God when we do unjustice, whether or not the other person is feeling pain or not.

at times, the person in fault, NEEDS to feel the pain. this is justice.



In-group bias
USA
25 Jul 2017 13:17

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The church elders do not have a problem to disgrace or hurt other elders that are NOT in their in-group.
The American elders had no problem to chase away brother Endre Toth
who was an elder of the Warren OH church for about 30 years if not more.
What did brother Endre Toth do wrong? What was his crime? or what
happened to brother Imre Taba? Did he step down on his own or did the elders push brother Imre out.
Are the other elders scared?

yes
Australia
25 Jul 2017 18:23

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yeah, you are right.

to: in-group bias
Australia
25 Jul 2017 18:29

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Elder Endre must have fought for justice if he was removed by the other elders.

there isnt really any other realistic reason.

Elder Endre must have been a prey because he was shunning the evil and sins of other elders.

Isaiah 59:15
Truth is nowhere to be found, and whoever shuns evil becomes a prey. The LORD looked and was displeased that there was no justice.

Question
Australia
27 Jul 2017 12:46

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So whats new with Classic Homes ?
The rumour has it that PP arranged deals with some tradies so they won't sue him.
Truth?

tradie
Australia
27 Jul 2017 16:01

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Questions

How do we go about getting in on that deal ?

Doubt it !


Client
Australia
27 Jul 2017 19:38

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...what about us clients



an option
Australia
27 Jul 2017 22:58

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have you attempted to contact an ombudsman?

https://www.ombudsman.qld.gov.au/make-a-complaint/makecomplaint



...
USA
28 Jul 2017 0:20

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I don't know about Brother Endre but Brother Imre was never pushed out. He stepped down on his own because he didn't agree with what was going on.

where are they
USA
29 Jul 2017 20:21

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Anyone know why many of the Pensta family are keeping a low profile in Australia. Are they involved with Classic homes or have they their own legal battle. (not just in Queensland)

N/A
Australia
29 Jul 2017 20:40

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http://www.onlineservices.qbcc.qld.gov.au/OnlineLicenceSearch/VisualElements/ShowDetailPDFContent.aspx

License CANCELLED due to failure to satisfy FINANCIAL requirements

Tradies/customers
USA
3 Aug 2017 3:33

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Unfortunately they don’t have respect for the people they are working with whether it’s their customers, co-workers or employees and they don’t seem to like and respect themselves much.

Client #4
Australia
3 Aug 2017 4:43

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Hi All , My house is not finished as well. Classic Homes took last 2 payments worth 130K in a hurry in late May. I was kept asking for the evidence but Tamara C and Phillip Mate, threatened to sue us if we don't pay. So we paid and nothing has been done. Now trying with QBCC for some relief. Anyone know how long will it take QBCC to process our work. Appreciate your advice.

Tradie
Australia
3 Aug 2017 7:22

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The QBCC has now cancelled the licence .
They will get quotes to complete the house and then award a contract to the successful tender it will take some time as there are a few houses to complete

Lies
Australia
3 Aug 2017 23:46

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How is Philip Mate still driving the company car? Beware of him, he lies just as much as Paul. It's in their blood. Full of deceit.


Truth
Australia
3 Aug 2017 23:57

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To Lies comment: Don't say things that you don't know. If you knew the full story you wouldn't say that. Shows how ignorant you are. Seems that you are being the deceitful one and liar here. We know who you are.

Truth
Australia
5 Aug 2017 9:17

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Many of the staff, he not all of them, still have company cars.

Moderator
Australia
5 Aug 2017 12:28

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Client #4 wrote:

>>Tamara C and Phillip Mate, threatened to sue us if we don't pay.

Sad to hear it. Here we have (supposed) Christians Tamara and Phillip working for a (supposedly) Christian company and making threats to (supposed) non-Christians that will take them to court.

I know Tamara and Phillip. They are, as we say, "little people". They are not destined to become "big shots". That is, however, what little people want the most - not to be nobody, but "important", "successful", "respectable".

Well, that's the catch. True Christians are nobody, nobody in this world and realm. Their treasures are on the other side.

Greed, ambition, selfishness, ego. So easy to fall into that trap.

A mansion and a shining crown are waiting there for me,
My friends and my loved ones there with my own eyes I’ll see,
Once that I’m safely helped across the swelling tide,
That’s my treasures waiting on the other side.

On the other side, treasures there have I,
Treasures that this world and all its wealth could never buy;
When I reach that city and the gates wing open wide,
Find my treasures waiting on the other side.

A pilgrim met a stranger here who’s journeyed here before,
Seen a side of heaven I’m so happy as I go;
The world may think me poor and pass me by with scornful pride,
They don’t know our treasures on the other side.

You ask me why I’m happy of things of which I boast,
I’ve said goodbye to all the world and things that charm me most;
I’ve had a vision of my Lord, who for me bled and died,
He’s the greatest treasure on the other side.

Question
Australia
5 Aug 2017 12:45

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Everything is heresay. Does anyone bother to ask these people to their face if this is true or not, or do people just believe gossip and lies?

Moderator
Australia
5 Aug 2017 12:51

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OK, Browns Plains, why don't YOU tell us the full truth?

re: moderator
USA
5 Aug 2017 15:21

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I AGREE WITH MOST STUFF YOU WRITE, BUT, IN ACTUAL FACT - EVERY COMPANY HAS A POLICY, AND IF THE CLIENT DOES NOT PAY (WHICH I ASSUME THIS WOULD HAVE BEEN THE CASE) THEN THE CORRECT COURSE OF ACTION WOULD BE GOING INTO THE POLICY AND ABIDE BY THE COMPANIES DIRECTIONS. ITS NOT THE PERSON IN THIS CASE LIKE PHILIP OR TAMARA. IT IS HOWEVER, THE POLICY....FURTHER, PP COMPANY WAS STILL BOUND TO HELL EITHER WAY.

Moderator
Australia
5 Aug 2017 18:14

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The Apostle Paul, a tentmaker, delivers a new tent to one of his customers. The customer says sorry, I've got no money now but I shall pay next month. OK, says Paul. Next month Paul goes to see the customer and the customer says, listen mate, I was just kidding, I've got no money and won't pay you ever.

The Apostle Paul has two choices:

1. Takes the customer to a Roman court. The court will give the customer ten lashes, seize his property and give Paul his money.

...OR

2. The Apostle Paul forgives the debt and prays for the customer wishing him and his family the best?

Here is another story: The Apostle Paul walks into Treasury Casino there in Brisbane, spots a roulette and puts all his money on number 21.

Hold on, a wrong story, wrong from the beginning! Christians do not do such things like gambling in casinos, not they take people to court, nor they make threats.

Or perhaps they do not do it on Sunday, though on normal business days Mon-Fri, it's fine?

Moderator
USA
6 Aug 2017 2:28

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What you said brings tears to my eyes, thank you

TO: jnr & snr PP
Australia
6 Aug 2017 22:51

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(most of us here in Australia believe you both (Paul Pentsa jnr & snr) are reading and / or get updated on the comments of this website.
and
seeing you have chosen in the past not to accept admonishment or any type of counsel from pretty much anyone, this is an attempt to waken you both up at least a microscopic amount what God will do.

Choose when you will confess your faults.

Here on this earth before the Lords coming, or at the Lords coming.

Before the Lords coming will be beneficial for your soul, and set you free.
but
At the Lords coming will not set you free to go where you will not want to be.

Kindly Read.....

"VERY IMPORTANT ALSO TO OTHERS"

2 Corinthians 8:21 - Providing for honest things, not only in the sight of the Lord, but also in the sight of men.

Colossians 3:9 - Lie not one to another, seeing that ye have put off the old man with his deeds;

Luke 6:31 - And as ye would that men should do to you, do ye also to them likewise.

Hebrews 13:18 - Pray for us: for we trust we have a good conscience, in all things willing to live honestly.

Acts 24:16 - And herein do I exercise myself, to have always a conscience void of offence toward God, and [toward] men.

Client #4
Australia
8 Aug 2017 19:33

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Is anyone know how long will the QBCC take to process the insurance claims. I open a case 2 week ago. no news yet. Will they assign a new builder to build the houses soon.
Sorry i am going through tough time with this situation. I have to pay my bank irrespective of the situation. Please if anyone know give me an idea.

Forget about it
Australia
8 Aug 2017 19:39

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Ha ha your delusional,you wont get a cent from the Pentsas.

to client #4
USA
9 Aug 2017 14:56

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how has Paul P. Jr. scammed you since you live in U.S.? Perhaps you live in Australia part time? please clarify.

important: client #4
Australia
9 Aug 2017 17:09

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if you are in the US, then it should be easier to track him down.

use all contacts or people and their email and phone numbers, that alot of people have supplied on this website.

he is in California, in the LA area.





Client #4
Australia
9 Aug 2017 17:47

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Hi All, I don't know why this is showing me as USA. I am using my office computer. May be that's why. I am from Sydney.

Moderator
Australia
9 Aug 2017 17:55

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Client #4, your IP number is showing Saint Paul, Minnesota, US, Medtronic Incorporated, 8200 Coral Sea Street.

This forum has no registration and login so your IP number is the only way we can figure out where you are from.

Moderator
Australia
9 Aug 2017 18:00

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OK, fixed. You are now in Australia :)

ClassicHomes
USA
10 Aug 2017 11:35

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Dear website Moderator,
Please inform all your readers and tradies/suppliers of the following!

I Paul Pentsa Jnr. Would like to state the following!
I alone am responsible for the company Classic Homes, as I am sole Director, and no other member of my family including my father have anything to do with the company.
I am deeply saddened by what has happened, as you know, that Classic Homes is no longer operating!
I am working with administrator through my lawyer, to complete construction of spec homes and have them sold in order to repay all suppliers and tradies.
I want to assure all that my family including my father have nothing to do with Classic Homes, their only involvement was in lending large sums of monies to Classic Homes to help pay for past debts incurred by Classic Homes, to help keep it trading and afloat all  past year. They also are owed monies, and have not been paid back their loaned money by the Company. They are in the same situation as others! Yet they have been targeted and treathened with death threats and other cruel and illegal actions against them have been made. Which they did not deserve, as they did nothing wrong!

As for myself, I have not taken any money from Classic Homes, and have not taken any wages for the last years, just to help keep the company going.
As there are a few million dollars worth in properties to be completed and sold, so as to pay all outstanding debts, I ask all to be patient, and allow these projects to be completed!

I am truly sorry for all these hardships caused by Classic Homes, and I am doing my utmost to make all repayments to all concerned ASAP.

I trust that you will understand!

With saddened heart,
Paul James Pentsa (Classic Homes)

Moderator
Australia
10 Aug 2017 11:40

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Thank you very much. I am sure that this statement is a move in the right direction.



regarding letter
Australia
10 Aug 2017 13:28

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Dear Paul James Pentsa,
Is there any way you could have the letter signed, so people can believe its legitimate.
Many Thanks




FedUpWithTheLies
Australia
10 Aug 2017 13:50

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Paul,

You are continuing to sell assets prior to the appointment of an administrator just so you can funnel the money into your own accounts. You are lying when you say you're working with an administrator, because your employee's still aren't eligible to claim their money back due to you 'still trading.' This is information received by ASIC directly.

Your staff weren't paid for months before all of this blew up. You still had money, you eat out every night of the week. You still purchased expensive items, you can't tell me you weren't making a wage. If that were the case, how did you afford to move your family across the world and live in a rental at Hope Island? Your wife doesn't work so where does all this money come from? Your father took money out of the business to buy his house in America. That's probably where the missing millions of dollars have gone, straight into your pocket. This is all information you have previously told people and now you're backtracking. If there wasn't anything illegal going on with Classic Homes, why did you ask Tamara to clear out the office and get rid of all the computers, what was on the computers that you didn't want others to see.

Why is it Tamara and Philip are still working for you, why are they 'making arrangements' for you and selling everything? Tell everyone the truth Paul. Philip Mate was the Vice Director of the company and now all of a sudden he wasn't and he's not personally liable for anything. Seems a bit odd to me.

We all know what you and your father are like, you are selfish, horrible people and there is absolutely no doubt you have hidden the hard earned money of your employees, trades and clients.

You expect us to believe the lies you're telling now, you will never be trusted by anyone again. Your children have to grow up listening to the sh*t you tell them and everyone else. It becomes a vicious cycle of breeding more awful people, raising them like this is just cruel. Stop playing games, stop hurting people.

There are many trades who have also disclosed some very sad information that they're on the verge of killing themselves. That way their families will get a payout and be able to pay the debts they have before they lose their houses. It can't be a nice feeling knowing that you're the reason people will lose their life let alone houses and businesses. Paul, please consider this before you continue to think only about yourself.

The best thing you can do for everyone is to officially appoint an administrator. This will then get people the money they're entitled to. People's houses can continue to run and there may be a light at the end of the tunnel but do it right and do it now.

regarding letter
Australia
10 Aug 2017 14:22

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Dear Paul James Pentsa,
Did you have pay your builders insurance for each building project you were legally obliged to?
We want to see this please.
This way, the insurance can take over and give the contract to other builders.
So, if you would kindly expose this, so everyone knows you want to be fair, and act in a legal way.
Alot of people have gone bankrupt, and the insurance takes over. Its simple. Its not hard to understand if things didnt go as you may have thought it will.
So, lets just continue the legal way, so people dont get delayed any more then required.
Many Thanks

serious
Australia
10 Aug 2017 14:24

12848 views
People that see you have signed the letter.
and
Proven you had paid the insurance for each building project,

can THEN believe you.

OTHERWISE.........they still do NOT believe you.

Please understand this, Paul.....

Moderator
Australia
10 Aug 2017 14:40

12835 views
Just for the record, Paulie's statement came from Monument, Colorado, not from California. Don't ask me why is that, I don't know. It was sent from mobile phone Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge.

Need answers
Australia
10 Aug 2017 15:47

12785 views
FedUpWithTheLies, so are you saying that Classic Homes were still trading whilst insolvent? In Australia that is a very serious offence with very serious penalties. If this is true then, It sounds more like they could actually be running from the law. Could this be?

to moderator
USA
10 Aug 2017 17:12

12741 views
Paul Jr was in San Diego church Sunday so Paul Sr wrote the letter above to lie for his son
Paul Sr now lives in Monument CO
what a snake

Moderator
Australia
10 Aug 2017 17:22

12734 views
>>Paul Jr was in San Diego church Sunday

Still.. It only takes a few hours by plane to travel from San Diego to Colorado / Monument. I guess PP Jnr. and PP Snr. met there to discuss what to do. We would need someone in Colorado to confirm this.

not so bad then?
Australia
10 Aug 2017 22:29

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oh, so the website is not that bad after all, if the Pentsa family is using it to apologise or inform people about certain important things about their business'?

interesting
Australia
10 Aug 2017 22:37

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to writer:

" TO: jnr & snr PP" (August 6th)

sounds like your email has knocked some sense to those involved.
Thank God for that.
Lets hope they continue in the right direction.
Lets pray for them, that they see, and continue to act accordingly.
Simply do unto others what we would like people to do to us.
Its not hard at all.
God works in miraculous ways, even if we think He cant change people!!
All praise to Him.



No change
Australia
10 Aug 2017 23:47

12637 views
Whether Sr. or Jr. wrote to inform us all, it doesn't matter b/c it took them too long to clear things up a bit. Do they think we are dumb to see through this letter?
For instance: 1. They never bothered to inform anyone of their intention to finish building spec homes and pay back hurting people and families. But as soon as their family is being threatened, then they decide to poke their heads out of hiding. Sr and Jr can care less about helping any of you trades/suppliers. All they want is for people to get off their backs, that's why they wrote this sob story.
2. The pentsas hate this website and whoever is behind it, so why would they even start the letter.Dear website moderator. Sr would never acknowledge the moderator as Dear. But jr might just so people get sucked in.
3. The moderator has no tradies/suppliers. So if Jr was sincere he would be writing this letter saying that they are his tradies/suppliers.
4. Jr you are still up yourself, we know you were the owner of classic homes..you don't have to keep trying to be something you're not by writing that you're the sole Director. You can't even humble yourself even after you've been punished with being too proud and greedy. You're doing it again, what will it take for you to learn how to be a humble person?
5. You aren't deeply saddened that classic homes isn't operating, more like deeply embarrassed that people see the real you. A broke nobody this whole time just trying to trick people in believing that you're some rich business man.
6. You're working with admin. through your lawyer.. How can you even pay for a lawyer if you have no money. Administrators by the way, take complete control of anything to do with classic homes and won't let you have any access to what was in your control. How are you going to finish spec homes when you have no money. This letter is just another bigger lie to make people feel sorry for you and to stay away from your family in Australia.
7. Here you go again trying to make people think that the pantsas are a wealthy family by saying your father and family lent large sums of monies. We don't care how much or how little amount of monies they have. They can't be that well off or else they would bail you out, ever think about that?
8. If you can turn your back on family and not pay them..you are no different than your father, Paul Sr. Your mother would be very disappointed with your behavior. Tradies/suppliers don't care about your families unpaid wages or monies not paid back to them...they want what's best for their families.
9. You haven't been taken any money over the years...then how did you eat at restaurants, pay bills, go to America in those years? Please explain these things.
10. Again we don't care about how much the properties are worth because you cant afford to finish them, you yourself said the company went into administration. You have nothing to do with classic homes anymore.
Paul jr. please humble yourself and stop lying. It's all over. You should be talking and pleading with the tradies/suppliers to be merciful to you and your families...

so true
Australia
10 Aug 2017 23:58

12633 views
good and valid points, "no change"

lets see what the real outcome is going to be, not just big talk, big apology's and no actions.




No change
Australia
11 Aug 2017 0:14

12625 views
Yes it will be a great outcome for all if Paul jr is able to accomplish what is written by him or his father

Narcissist
Australia
11 Aug 2017 17:15

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PP or PP Jnr or any other family member that may have written the reply is all about me, me me.
If he truly wants people that he didn't have a wage for many years how on Earth did he and his family survive. If his family were stupid enough to invest in a floundering company, who cares (actually don't believe there's any truth in that statement). Death threats, oh please, why hasn't it been reported to police, oh yes that's right as according to bankrupt and or insolvent company directors are not meant to leave the country.
If he truly wants to pay back tradies, staff, finish off homes that people have paid for, then he should get his sorry ass back to Australia and start working with his insurance company etc. Maybe even get a job and start paying back what he owes
PP Jnr one question, how on Earth could you afford plane tickets to USA if you weren't drawing a wage.
You are nothing but a crooked NARCISSIST.

Litigation Financer
USA
14 Aug 2017 7:00

12204 views
Perhaps Paul Pentsa Jr can also comment on how much money he donated to Sydney church litigation against Laza Krnjulac and his sons, and who secretly recorded Sydney church members meeting back in 2010.


FedUpWithTheLies
Australia
14 Aug 2017 9:03

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In response to NeedAnswers yes, I believe Paul was knowingly trading insolvent...it possibly started around Christmasn 2016.

offshore accounts
USA
14 Aug 2017 9:53

12174 views
Trading insolvent, sounds like the time frame Paul Pentsa started dating Maria from Colorado.
I wounder how much money Paul Pentsa put in Maria's bank account?


to Paul James Pentsa
Australia
14 Aug 2017 12:07

12142 views
Dear Paul James Pentsa,

Are you able to sign that letter please?
and
Prove you had paid for the insurance for each building project please?

Kind Regards

Concerned ACCN Australia

RE: FedUpWithTheLies
USA
14 Aug 2017 16:36

12074 views
How would you know that for sure he was? It wouldn't surprise me at all.

client
Australia
15 Aug 2017 13:33

11916 views
PP JNR (if that is really you who wrote the letter)

I am a client of yours. I don't expect much. Why don't you return to Australia and explain yourself. All I really expect is a call (and I am sure many other clients also feel the same). It doesn't cost much to pick up that phone of yours (or a mobile phone) to ring every single client who had signed up to ClassicHome to explain the situation and that you are trying to fix it. I understand you cant just pull out millions of dollars to pay everyone but show some decency and own up to your mistake/failure. Apology doesn't cost anything!

re: client
USA
15 Aug 2017 15:57

11875 views
who are you kidding? He does have money. How else did he buy his house overseas? How much did you loose with Paul?

to PJ Pentsa
Australia
15 Aug 2017 17:13

11856 views
thats why alot of us here are trying to help his clients and regain his reputation as a Christian.

this is why we are writing this again and again.....

please Paul James Pentsa, understand and act accordingly please!!




Are you able to sign that letter please?
and
Prove you had paid for the insurance for each building project please?

Regards

With saddened and heart felt concerned ACCN Australia

Role Model
Australia
15 Aug 2017 19:13

11832 views
What a wonderful role model Elder Paul Pentsa is, makes his flock to pray to the almighty, live without sin, so on and so forth, yet for himself and his family do as you like and when caught act as they victim and continue on.
Hate to see in a few years time when the Pentsa grandchildren have access to the internet, google either nazarene maybe even their surname and read about their family
They will then realise their live in luxury was not from the hard work of their father but from the backs of Australians he swindled.
You can home school all you like and segregate your children from outsiders, you can stop your children from watching tv, listen to the radio, read newspapers but eventually they will know what you are all about. I hope that they will have higher morals than you and run as far away from the Pentsa family as they can when they are older.
Remember their first teachers and role models are parents, do the right thing and show them that you can make mistakes, you can be a thief, you can run away and try to make a new life but at the end of a day it's wrong morally, lawfully and against all religious beliefs.
your concern about death threats for your family is fair enough if true, what you refuse to understand is those you've cheated from tens to hundreds of thousands of dollars are suicidal as you have bankrupted so many of them.
Be a good role model to your flock, to your children, to your grandchildren, to the PENTSA name

to: role model
Australia
15 Aug 2017 19:59

11822 views
well said!!

wake up Elder Paul and make a sensible move for the Gods reputation of His Church, his members and your family.

many will only respect you more, if you can find a slight amount of room in your heart to apologise if and when appropriate.

surely, you can understand and realise the situation.



to: role model
Australia
15 Aug 2017 20:00

11821 views


.....this goes for Paul James Pentsa too.

Re: role model
USA
15 Aug 2017 21:10

11799 views
"to the PENTSA name" are you kidding?
That name is trash.

whatever paul
USA
15 Aug 2017 21:23

11795 views
"I want to assure all that my family including my father have nothing to do with Classic Homes" Sounds like something a father would write for his son.
What a keyboard warrior.
If you are doing your upmost, then why are you waddling and taking your time.
While people are struggling, you are living freely with the million or two you probably transffered (how else could you have bought a house?)

Moderator
Australia
15 Aug 2017 21:27

11791 views
...and a very nice new Audi for Maria, eh?

re: moderator
USA
15 Aug 2017 21:31

11785 views

Wonder what else he got her?
honey moon in the Bahamas ... i read.
take your slippers off, cause the people your son messed up, are doing fine... NOT!
what do you reckon? he messed up the churchies (lots of them), cause he knew that they wouldn't take him to court?

remember.....
Australia
15 Aug 2017 22:59

11752 views
alot of people have heard, seen and experienced Elder Pentsas' unbiblical actions found in the following verses:


2 Peter 1:16
For we have not followed cunningly devised fables.....

Ephesians 4:14
That we henceforth be no more children, tossed to and fro, and carried about with every wind of doctrine, by the sleight of men, and cunning craftiness, whereby they lie in wait to deceive;”


Paul's wife
USA
16 Aug 2017 17:51

11621 views
Does anyone know what Paul's wife is thinking about all this? Anyone heard anything? I wonder how can she been tossed into this mess?

Pauline & PaulJNR
USA
17 Aug 2017 20:11

11449 views
What does Pauline Hanson and Paul Pentsa Jnr have in common?
Pauline Hanson served her time for her fraudulent crime, and Paul Pentsa Jnr skipped the country for his fraudulent crime.

To the above comment, she probably deep down can't stand the clown, but is in it for her kids...so they are not another statistic for divorce..





Terence
Australia
18 Aug 2017 10:48

11342 views
Queensland State Election Looming. Not a whimper from present Government or opposition about this Pentsa Crook.

Justice
Australia
20 Aug 2017 23:57

11138 views
They can run but they can't hide from the Lord Almighty who has seen and knows everything they have done!! In this world they can cheat, rob and deceive, but not in the next one!! Judgment is coming for those who do not repent of their evil ways... The souls they have robbed and cheated are crying out to God for justice and God will hear their cries from heaven... In the counsel of God nobody gets away with anything... their punishment is coming if they do not repent and make right the wrongs they have committed!! "Vengeance is Mine, I will repay, says the Lord." (Romans 12:19) Repent now while you still can, it will be too late on judgment day!!

a warning!!
Australia
21 Aug 2017 16:51

11044 views
Are you able to sign that letter please?
and
Prove you had paid for the insurance for each building project please?



Disowned
Australia
26 Aug 2017 21:19

10688 views
Please stop referring to those two individuals as "The Pentsa family"

The Pentsa family is massive and this has nothing to do with the vast majority of "Pentsa's" .

Moderator
Australia
26 Aug 2017 21:24

10686 views
OK then let's try and establish who are those Pentsas that are involved and responsible for this mess.

Disowned
Australia
26 Aug 2017 21:34

10684 views
Paul Pentsa x2

please act!!!!!
Australia
27 Aug 2017 1:11

10635 views
please Paul James Pentsa, understand and act accordingly please!!


Dear Paul James Pentsa!

Are you able to sign that letter please?
and
Prove you had paid for the insurance for each building project please?

Regards

With saddened & disturbed hearts, ACCN Australia


owed money...
Australia
29 Aug 2017 15:07

10442 views
ASIC now says winding up order was given on Friday 25th.



Moderator
Australia
31 Aug 2017 9:29

10244 views
So can anyone explain what that winding up order actually means and how it will affect the people who lost their money?

Not winding up
Australia
31 Aug 2017 12:23

10217 views
The winding up order is from January 2017 and was dismissed. It is not related to the current issues. It is still being investigated and the company is still trading but only as far as selling assets and refusing to hand the company over to the administrators. Philip Mate has been seen working in the office so there's definitely stuff still going on but no one really knows the truth of it all.

Liars
Australia
31 Aug 2017 16:39

10180 views
Nobody knows the truth because pentsa's and Mate's who ran the business are compulsive liars. They will lie to you and convince you they are telling the truth. Thats how convincing liars talk. Their mouths are full of crap.

meanings
Australia
31 Aug 2017 17:12

10175 views
compulsive means:
?
- having a very strong desire to do something repeatedly
- caused by a desire that is too strong to resist
- impossible to stop or control
- not able to stop or control doing something

Not So
Australia
1 Sep 2017 10:48

10086 views
That is totally false. Nobody has been working in the office since it closed, so get your facts straight. Paul Pentsa Jr. is the only one that knows the truth and he is keeping secrets and lies from everyone, and he is the only one who ran the business and made all the decisions. Obviously, you don't know what you're talking about. We know who you are that wrote "Liars".... you give yourself away so easily. Satan is the father of all lies and everyone who lies is controlled by Satan, so examine yourself first, ok? You are gossiping things that are not true and are a trouble maker and a liar.

known or unkown
Australia
1 Sep 2017 11:17

10077 views
a·non·y·mous
[ uh- non- uh-m uhs]

1. without any name acknowledged,
2. of unknown name; whose name is withheld:

To: Not Winding Up
Australia
1 Sep 2017 15:54

10050 views
Not winding up and Liars,
Actually you are both saying quite a lot and giving strong details when it may not be true.
Could it be that someone wants to pin all the blame on Philip Mate?
I'm starting to get this impression.

@not so
Australia
3 Sep 2017 11:03

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@not so, you are full of it, so much so that you think you know who I am. We've never crossed paths so you do not know who I am. You must be Phillips sister?

Not So
Australia
3 Sep 2017 15:54

9848 views
Not so again

Stop it!
Australia
4 Sep 2017 10:23

9765 views
Stop fighting amongst yourselves it's not helping anyone... focus on the issue at hand and how to resolve it!!

MAYBE
Australia
4 Sep 2017 16:59

9710 views
Have heard that the QBCC are looking at 2 house tomorrow, and one is Paul brothers home so maybe more will start to filter tru .

N/A
Australia
11 Sep 2017 14:05

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Have received an email to confirm the full refund from QBCC. In another word, they'd paid for the qbcc insurance

??
Australia
12 Sep 2017 11:11

9168 views
For every house, or only for the 2 houses QBCC inspected?

N/A
Australia
12 Sep 2017 11:38

9163 views
If that question was directed at me - I am a client.

No construction had started. QBCC refunded the 10% deposit with no issue.

Moderator
Australia
12 Sep 2017 18:04

9125 views
Good news. What about all these tradies, are they going to get anything?

DARREL J T
Australia
14 Sep 2017 11:05

8973 views
Classic Homes QLD Pty Ltd is in breach of clause 20.1 of the Contract. Therefore they did not pay their insurance. I was issued a refund of the deposit paid to Classic Homes Pty Ltd under the QBCC Warranty Scheme. Unsure how this QBCC Warranty Scheme is actually funded. Does anyone know?

to: Paul James Pents
Australia
14 Sep 2017 12:52

8954 views
re.
Classic Homes QLD Pty Ltd is in breach of clause 20.1 of the Contract. Therefore they did not pay their insurance.

Is this true?



N/A
Australia
15 Sep 2017 8:27

8871 views
My understanding is as of October 2016 - builders must pay the home warranty insurance which is where I would assume the QBCC gets money from.

-----------------------------------------------------

Queensland Home Warranty Scheme reforms - effective 28 October 2016
QBCC Insurance - Key Reforms 
Background
The QBCC is the regulator of the building industry in Queensland, issuing licences to contractors, providing a free dispute resolution service and administering a home warranty scheme to provide insurance cover for residential construction work in Queensland.
"Under the home warranty scheme, licensed contractors must pay a premium on behalf of the consumer for residential construction work they carry out."
The scheme provides home owners with cover for loss where the licensed contractor does not complete the contracted works or fails to rectify defective work.

--------------------------------------

to: N/A
Australia
15 Sep 2017 11:31

8853 views
Thank you for that.

Moderator
Australia
22 Sep 2017 12:12

8522 views
=============================================

124 comments. OK, it is time to close off this thread too. If you have something more to share related to Classic Homes please start a new thread. Thank you.

If you want to go back to the first part of the discussion:

Classic Homes (QLD) Pty Ltd - 1

http://www.accn-australia.com/Page1.php?topic/1662/classic-homes-qld-pty-ltd-1

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A B U S E R S  :  H A L L  O F  S H A M E 
Paul Pentsa
Brisbane
Janko Tomek
Melbourne
Andrew Szabo
Perth
Vlada Papuga
Melbourne
Philip Ruzeu
Melbourne
Nick Pentsa
Brisbane
Michael Stanjo
Melbourne
STAY AWAY FROM THIS MAN! His mouth is full of Biblical verses but his heart is filled with hatred, jealousy, treachery and lust for power. This FALSE CHRISTIAN is the root of almost all evil in ACCN in Australia and he will even take you to court, if he can't get his way.
Janko is pretty much like Paul, dishonest and unloving, just less intelligent. Janko is now building his humongous "warehouse" in Tarneit, destined to remain void of both faith and members. This UNREPENTED SINNER is still dreaming about becoming an elder!
Hard-hearted and egoistic, this long-time "elder" has caused immense grief, division and misery amongst the Nazarenes in Australia. Some even call him a sadist... not that Andrew really cares about anyone's opinion, though. Currently residing in a nursing home in Perth.
Earned his nickname by constantly repeating "Ljubazni" (Dear Ones) while preaching. This recently appointed "elder assistant" is ambitious, but at the same time not clever enough to realize he will always be just Paul's and Janko's messenger boy.
Philip is Paul Pentsa's son-in-law and definitely his best student. Proud, stubborn, arrogant - a classic bigot. Due to his off-putting personality and some weird beliefs, he's not on very good terms with Janko Tomek and other Slovaks in Tarneit.
Here is your future Elder, whether you like the idea or not. Nicky is "a very nice guy". No gift for preaching or leadership skills, but being Paul Pentsa's son, he's actually got everything he needs. Sooner or later his Dad will find the way to install him as his successor.
Janko Tomek's loyal admirer and bodyguard - sleazy, hypocritical, dishonest and ignorant. His interpretation of the Scriptures can make you laugh as well as his awkward sermons in broken English.


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