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Favorite Acc-isms

DK
USA
17 Dec 2019 14:31
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I was reminded when I saw post on "Removal from book of life" of how bad acc teaching is can be. I was actually part of members meeting years ago when this happen in our church. This made me want to ask you: What is your favorite ACC false teaching or saying?

I will go first.

I was one time telling someone that ACC ministers says only ACC people are saved. Many say NOW that this is not true. It is funny, because a lot of people still think like this and it is the origin of the Nazareen faith.

My second is the "age of accountability." There is no such thing in bible or anywhere! Where did this false teaching come from? It shows much teaching is made up with no study of the bible.

What is your favourite saying or teaching that is wrong?

To DK
Canada
18 Dec 2019 3:30
4019 views
A lot of really stupid and unscriptural questions and demands and promises are presented to converts when they give their testimony and go through some wacky approving procedures. and then supposedly the holy spirit will witness to everyone or anyone or some or almost all that this person is ready to be baptist. Some of the elders do such a boneheaded things like to try to exercise their comedic skills or show how delightfully witty they can be. It's like they're trying to make a name for themselves.

To DK
Australia
23 Dec 2019 18:30
3903 views
Alright DK,

Here's one from the local ACCN from a few decades ago. It might still be the rule:'
"In Heaven there will of course be singing, but ONLY from the black book from ACCN, so absolutely no new songs allowed ever!"
My question was always how could anyone proclaim to know exactly what songs will be sung in Heaven?

Im not sure if this is still the rule.


Man made
USA
24 Dec 2019 17:41
3823 views
Baptism saves, works save, you can lose salvation, head coverings (what a joke), no jewellery, suits to church, no worldly music, lie ministers wouldn't allow TV's but they had monitors, girls can't wear pants, separate seating.

I know these are old, but they made up the original ACC doctrine. The church should make an official announcement that they on longer hold these teachings.

Oh and Paul, that guy used to give so many ladies a hard time for makeup and nail polish. Now his wife does it and he doesn't care. You should hang your head in shame.

The 2 by 4
Australia
28 Dec 2019 13:50
3679 views
The 2 x 4" piece of fabric at ACCN, where a head covering is only nominal and doesn't actually cover the hair. It sends a strange message.

Worldly Pageants
Australia
28 Dec 2019 14:11
3670 views
" Follow NOT the WORLD "

many acc follow and celebrate festivities of all kinds which are not Biblical...

Mothers Day, Fathers Day, Easter, Xmas - all dates followed are from the world, by the world and we are NOT OF THIS WORLD, we are followers of Jesus not of false religion celebrations -


20% enough?
Australia
28 Dec 2019 22:41
3614 views
1 Corinth.11:15
.......for her hair is given her for a covering.

REFERRING TO THE HAIR THAT NEEDS TO BE COVERED.

a 2" x 4" covers about 20% of the hair.......so thats 20% biblical correct......

1 Jn.2:15
Love not the world, neither the things that are in the world. If any man love the world, the love of the Father is not in him.

it cannot get much simpler.......

Peacemaker
Australia
28 Dec 2019 22:50
3609 views
So many negative, almost hateful comments. Why? Every church, every family and every person has so much repentance to do. Pray and watch. Every Church belongs to God. Don't make mockery of church, please

Peacemaker
Australia
28 Dec 2019 23:02
3607 views
Be sure; "Easter and Xmas" are paganistic. If you don't believe me watch from YouTube " Jim Staley Truth or Tradition HD Should Christians Celebrate Christmas and Easter Full." Please watch. Nazarene Church is right; it is wordly and paganistic.

Thank God
USA
29 Dec 2019 7:52
3556 views
King James Version
Let no man therefore judge you in meat, or in drink, or in respect of an holyday, or of the new moon, or of the sabbath days:

Not holy
USA
29 Dec 2019 8:13
3545 views
The key word is "holyday". Pagan holidays arent holy

Which Days?
USA
29 Dec 2019 9:27
3528 views
Everyone ENJOYS taking time off those Pagan holidays though. It is a form of basic partaking whether we like it or not.
One could also note that being in a supermarket that is filled with Christmas decorations etc....etc.. is also a little bit of partaking.
So, to point to everyone else but one's self is a little hypocritical and that is why that Scripture is there; Let no man judge you....etc....

our accountability
29 Dec 2019 23:24
3470 views
being a partaker of the pagan is having in your heart or household, where you are and will be responsible and accountable to God on the last day.

what others have put up in shopping centers or governments allocating holidays, has nothing to do with those that do not partake in the error of those sins, nor will we be responsible or accountable for that to God on the last day.



JC
USA
30 Dec 2019 19:34
3402 views
Aramaic Bible in Plain English
Let no man disturb you about food or about drink or in the distinctions of feasts and beginnings of months and Sabbaths.

Giraffe
USA
31 Dec 2019 5:38
3343 views
Having no problem allowing someone who has been "excommunicated" to work in the kitchen, clean, donate things to the church but they are not allowed to come in to watch their OWN CHILDS testimony and many other things. It doesnt seem to reflect God's love when we do this.

Giraffe
USA
31 Dec 2019 5:56
3336 views
To be fair though, the ACC does a lot of good and the word is preached. please excuse the rude tone of the previous message

Jim Staley YouTube
USA
14 Dec 2021 8:29
1397 views
Isn't Jim Staley non ACCN? Hypocrisy of using someone outside of the faith to condemn holidays ACCN members are not to participate in. ???? Legalism typically leads to Hypocrisy.

Interesting
Australia
14 Dec 2021 11:00
1393 views
If Jim Staley a non ACCN saying it's paganistic,should'n ACCN know better?
No where in the bible says to selebrate Xmas,b-days etc.
But ACCN and ACCA going more and more to be equal with this world,and they are "lukewarm christians"!!!

Jesus said to commemorate his HOLLY SUPPER till he comes.
Read the bible!!!

read slowly
Australia
14 Dec 2021 12:58
1386 views
Matthew 7:6
“Do not give dogs what is sacred; do not throw your pearls to pigs. If you do, they may trample them under their feet, and turn and tear you to pieces.

Leviticus 20:3
I will also set My face against that man and will cut him off from among his people, because he has given some of his offspring to Molech, so as to defile My sanctuary and to profane My holy name.



Feeling lost?
USA
31 Dec 2021 11:21
1263 views
Jesus Celebrated Hanukkah… should we celebrate that? Or is that like a pagan holiday like Christmas (the celebration of Christ’s birth). You know… because Hanukkah is basically celebrating a war.

And then about about Halloween? That holiday actually has religious roots…

So what then makes a holiday pagan? It’s roots or the meaning given to it by those celebrating?

Please. I need answers. Because I’m sure God will judge me for celebrating the wrong holiday. I need direction.

Berean
Canada
2 Jan 2022 10:21
1231 views
The New Testament knows no "holidays" that are to be kept as in the old covenant. The only thing we "celebrate" if I can use that word is the Lord's supper..., Which is not a holiday.

Feeling Lost
USA
2 Jan 2022 13:51
1221 views
Soooo… is that a no to Hanukkah?

Berean
Canada
3 Jan 2022 0:51
1207 views
In my opinion I wouldn't celebrate it any more than July 1st, or 4th of July . We shouldn't care for either of the two, as they don't align with the Kingdom that we as Christians are a part of. Secondly, why commemorate the dedication of the 2nd temple that's destroyed and gone?

read the bible
Australia
5 Jan 2022 15:45
1161 views
The Bible is clear.

Rom.14:17
For the kingdom of God is not meat and drink; but righteousness, and peace, and joy in the Holy Ghost.

Romans 12:2
And be not conformed to this world: but be ye transformed by the renewing of your mind, that ye may prove what is that good, and acceptable, and perfect, will of God.

christmas, easter, halloween, birthdays, independance day, government holidays....etc are ALL in the same group of pagan theories and unbiblical doctrines....etc





read for yourself
Australia
5 Jan 2022 16:02
1160 views
re. comment: Jesus Celebrated Hanukkah

that is not true!!!!!

the word "Hanukkah" is not even found in the new testament
and
the new testament is a spiritually meaning of many things taken from the old testament
not
literally celebration in ungodly fashions

Christ is the light of the world, has a spiritually meaning, not a reference to a candle stick or a flash light...etc

some goes with the spiritually meaning of feasts, festivals, or festival of lights, or sacrifices....etc

Two can tango
USA
6 Jan 2022 1:24
1150 views
Just because you can do a word search of “Hanukkah” in the Bible doesn’t mean you’ve read or understood it.

And you shall command the sons of Israel that they bring you clear oil of beaten olives for the light, to make a lamp burn continually. Exodus 27:20

Then came the Festival of Dedication at Jerusalem. It was winter, and Jesus was in the temple courts walking in Solomon’s Colonnade. John 10:22-23

Why don’t you do a little Google and figure out what the “Festival of Dedication” is…

The real question is, why is it so wrong to be joyful and celebratory?

read the bible
Australia
6 Jan 2022 12:29
1127 views
Luke 16:16
The law and the prophets were until John: since that time the kingdom of God is preached, and every man presseth into it.

Revelation 22:
18 For I testify unto every man that heareth the words of the prophecy of this book, If any man shall add unto these things, God shall add unto him the plagues that are written in this book:

19 And if any man shall take away from the words of the book of this prophecy, God shall take away his part out of the book of life, and out of the holy city, and from the things which are written in this book.



John 4:24

God is a Spirit: and they that worship him must worship him in spirit and in truth.

Romans 12:2
And be not conformed to this world: but be ye transformed by the renewing of your mind, that ye may prove what is that good, and acceptable, and perfect, will of God.


Bible is truth
Australia
6 Jan 2022 12:40
1125 views
The celebration of Christmas has come to the world from the Roman Catholic Church, which is a false religion.

In the Scriptures, no one is recorded to have kept a feast or held a great banquet on his birthday. It is only sinners [like Pharaoh and Herod] who make great rejoicings over the day in which they were born into this world".

It was not instituted by Christ or the apostles, or by Bible authority. It was picked up afterward from paganism.

Why are we following false religion and its teachings?

We need to follow Christ and His teachings in the New Testament, which is for the New Testament Church.

If God had wished us to observe and celebrate Christ's birthday, He would not have so completely hidden the exact date.

Yikes.
USA
20 Jan 2022 16:43
956 views
What a sad and joyless existence…

Anyways… back to what this original post was about…

My favorite ACCism is when they say “like Precious faith”. Which is just a bizarre way to say “people within the same denomination”. But I guess it does make it seem less culty to the advantage OTWer.



Chana
Serbia
28 Jan 2022 23:38
789 views
I once sat in church when they were praying over a soul to be removed from book of life. This was in CS. I remember listening to the minister pray and I stopped in the middle of prayer and told myself that I wasn't going to do this. I have, according to the ACCN been excommunicated, ridiculed, mocked and made fun of by everyone. Enjoy your hate people. You guys ruined my life!!!!

Chana
Serbia
29 Jan 2022 0:11
787 views
I want to inform all of you that I don't expect any sympathy or empathy from any of you. I know your hatred is deep and you want to teach me some lessons. I got your message and the authorities can determine what happened to all victims involved in the crimes that were committed. Thank you for reading!!

check first
Australia
29 Jan 2022 12:06
757 views
re. comment:

....made fun of by everyone.

well, thats definetly NOT true dear Chana!

Giraffe
USA
29 Jan 2022 13:08
753 views
Hey Chana, im so sorry you had to go through that. I personally dont believe in excommunication. I believe it is wrong. I have family this has affected & it hurts my heart deeply. Please know that you are loved. If you ever want to talk Im open to listen.

AC Guy
USA
11 Feb 2022 5:59
582 views
Chana,

I have never heard a prayer removing someone from the book of life. All excommunication prayers I have heard were asking for the person to return to Christ. I am sorry you had to deal with this.

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