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ACCN Forum | please shut down this website! ACCN Forum
please shut down this website!

me
USA
5 Mar 2022 20:32
3812 views
I would pay anyone who can have this website shut down. Leave me your email and if you successfully have this site shut down you will be paid. thank you!

Moderator
Australia
5 Mar 2022 21:17
3807 views
Sounds good. Shall we start with $1,000..? Any better offer?

increased offer
Australia
6 Mar 2022 1:27
3784 views
I am offering $10,000..................

Alex
USA
6 Mar 2022 4:12
3778 views
Why?

Moderator
Australia
6 Mar 2022 12:45
3758 views
Ha ha, I would take 10,000 and for that sort of money I would shut it down myself..

ok
Australia
7 Mar 2022 11:26
3716 views
cool
what method of payment do you accept?

question
Australia
7 Mar 2022 11:35
3714 views
the next question is; how would poeple know that you won't reopen the website after getting the cash???

Moderator
Australia
7 Mar 2022 11:57
3711 views
Eh, silly people.. . I wouldn't remove this website for any money, not for a million dollars... This website is here to stay, to outlive us all.

NonElderBrother
USA
16 Mar 2022 1:15
3607 views
I'll donate a well used Zion's Harp, and half a donut left over from lunch last Sunday to the shutdown reward.

seriously?
Australia
16 Mar 2022 13:44
3584 views
why not a new zions harp hymnal?

why not a whole donut?

NonElderBrother
USA
18 Mar 2022 2:17
3541 views
Inflation my dude, Biden has us pinching pennies.

come on
Australia
18 Mar 2022 11:02
3524 views
thats no excuse bro

you need to sacrifice for others in need

are you people in the US the only ones doing through hardship this time?

maybe there is a reason??

NonElderBrother
USA
13 Apr 2022 3:01
3382 views
Fine, I'll send you a full donut and one of those new praise song books that will be replacing the Zions Harp.

your statement
Australia
15 Feb 2023 22:38
2706 views
the moderator stated that the website will be shut down once paul pentsa is no longer an elder.

well, he is not an elder anymore.

will you fulfil your promise, moderator?

Moderator
Australia
16 Feb 2023 1:12
2684 views
Please quote me.

be honest
Australia
16 Feb 2023 11:59
2602 views
who has time to go through the thousands of comments to locate it?

i can try

Moderator
Australia
16 Feb 2023 12:02
2595 views
Be my guest.

oh, thats nice
Australia
16 Feb 2023 13:07
2572 views
do we get coffee and biscuits?

Moderator
Australia
16 Feb 2023 15:34
2538 views
Sure, help yourself.

Shut this site down
Australia
18 Feb 2023 17:03
2398 views
Yes!! Moderator has said on a number of occasions ‘ this website will not be closed till PP stands as an Elder ‘

He is no longer an Elder so no longer need this site!!

We will see whether he keeps the truth in his word.

Moderator
Australia
18 Feb 2023 22:10
2367 views
>> Moderator has said on a number of occasions ‘ this website will not be closed till PP stands as an Elder ‘

And I kept my promise, I have not closed it.

please explain more
Australia
19 Feb 2023 1:00
2336 views
what are you trying to prove here?

is paul pentsa still an elder now in your books?
or
is he no longer an elder?

Moderator
Australia
19 Feb 2023 1:45
2327 views
Ok, let me explain it to you.
Here is the beginning of this website:
http://www.accn-australia.com/Page20.html
The first post there dates September 2012.
Like, over 10 years ago!
We started exposing the abuse of power inside the Apostolic Christian Church Nazarene in Australia.
We posted many relevant evidences: letters, photos, court documents.
And what happened? Something changed? The European and American elders reacted and started investigating?
No. They ignored EVERYTHING we've been saying here.
They turned the blind eye.
They condemned the website, as well as those involved in their creation.
They did not want to take any action and discipline Paul Pentsa and his lieutenants.
And why is that?
It's simple. Because their way of thinking and their church practices are in fact not too different.
They are the same type of abusers.
By condemning the Australian elders, they would also be condemning themselves.
Hence this website will stay here for many more years and outlive them all.
I will make sure it outlives me too!
And I will ignore all pleas to shut it down, same as I was ignored.
Is this website bothering you spiritually?
Well, it's your choice to come here. You don't have to, no one is forcing you.
Is it bothering me?
No, quite the opposite, I'm proud to have it.
It's my spiritual asset.
I see it as my ticket to heaven.
Literally! I would not be joking with this!
Because I wasn't quiet when everyone else was keeping their mouth shut.
I tried to change something when others did not dare to speak up.
And I feel good about it.
If you think that doing nothing is better than doing something, you are deadly wrong.
For nothing, you get nothing.
So yes, many will be surprised at the very end, and find themselves at the bottom of the pile.
Because they spent their lives in fear of doing something wrong, so they did nothing.
They will have nothing to show.
And there will be nothing for them to receive.

Romans 12
USA
19 Feb 2023 4:47
2281 views
Dearly beloved, avenge not yourselves, but rather give place unto wrath: for it is written, Vengeance is mine; I will repay, saith the Lord.

Therefore if thine enemy hunger, feed him; if he thirst, give him drink: for in so doing thou shalt heap coals of fire on his head.

Be not overcome of evil, but overcome evil with good.

best disinfectant
Australia
19 Feb 2023 9:05
2239 views

Luke 12:3 Therefore whatsoever ye have spoken in darkness shall be heard in the light; and that which ye have spoken in the ear in closets shall be proclaimed upon the housetops.

We appear to be going through a season of the spirit of corruption being exposed in high places, both in the whole world and in the Church.
As always "sunshine is the best disinfectant."

I believe this web site is the moderator's small contribution to what our Lord is doing in the whole world at this time.
I have found this moderator to be hard but fair (as fair as a human can be).

You cannot build your lives without Truth. You cannot build your life on the instruction of your elder if your elder is corrupt.
For the longest time the Bible was not available to everyday people. The 'elder' of the time would decide which part of the Bible you can be trusted to know about.

When a corrupt elder likes to wear saint halo on their head and be greeted as such in the street, a site like this is a threat to them. When their deeds are exposed to everyone people would soon realise that the halo they wear on their head is man made, and they, being truth seekers, would soon stop following every word that elder says.

bible verses
Australia
19 Feb 2023 9:06
2237 views
We have to be careful not to use bible verses like stones to hit that person we very much would like to see hit.

Bible verses are only correctly understood through the Wisdom and Love of the Holy Spirit by people who's hearts have been prepared by our Lord- otherwise we are leaning on our own human corrupt unspiritual understanding of how we want things to be.
To trust the Lord with all our heart and lean not on our own understanding is very important when reading the scriptures also.
Satan used the scriptures but the spirit of his message was evil.
May the God of Peace strengthen those abused and treated inhumanely in a place that aught to have been a safe haven for His sheep.

very true
Australia
19 Feb 2023 14:48
2188 views
Dear Moderator,

Yes, many have been sleeping and many are sleeping.

Many have kept quiet when others were suffering.

Many were scared to stand up for the right.

Many were scared what will the ELDER say or do to me?

Many were scared how will the ELDER punish me?

The Bible states in:

Isaiah 59:

15Truth is nowhere to be found,

and whoever shuns evil becomes a prey.



It is clear, that those that DO stand up, like you, are in some way persecuted, and become a snare from the elders viewpoint.

Those that have been mistreated understand you.



However, the point here, is what you commented regarding this website, that it will be shut down, once Paul Pentsa is no longer an elder.

This is what people are commenting about.

We know that he is no longer an elder, and thought to bring it to your attention what you commented.



Moderator
Australia
19 Feb 2023 16:29
2172 views
Where is that comment?

i will attempt
Australia
20 Feb 2023 11:17
2089 views
if you give me time, i will endeavour to go thru the hundreds of comments to locate it.

people interested in seeing this website come down, could help me out too, if you like.

many thanks in advance

have a blessed day.

Moderator
Australia
20 Feb 2023 11:45
2082 views
A splendid idea! And who knows what you may learn in the process!

Not right
Australia
20 Feb 2023 12:12
2077 views
If everyone do what is right,no need to worry about this website.

90% of you were in the same boat including PP who wanted to sell Altona church to get rid of other group; they were peaceful people: and what you got now?
More problems among you.Look how far did you get? Don't you realise; God will not give you peace till you humble yourselves in your hearts and be truthful.

You need to acknowledge of wrong doing and repent.




Wow
Australia
20 Feb 2023 19:33
2019 views
Now the boat tipped over, and they swimming in the water.

hmm....yeah
Australia
20 Feb 2023 21:16
2003 views
they will continue to swim in the water until the european elders and paul pentsa hear that dear brother janko tomek got up yesterday to hold a nice sermon in the "built by stolen money accn church" at mount cottrell.....!!!!!!

Resigned?
USA
20 Feb 2023 23:10
1990 views
What? I thought he resigned...?

Moderator
Australia
20 Feb 2023 23:21
1982 views
See..?

And some people say this website is no longer needed..

yes, but
Australia
21 Feb 2023 10:37
1909 views
yes, very much so, dear moderator.

some believe that your move to expose the silent sins, that elders think they can get away with, is very beneficial, and we hope and pray it awakens many more too!!

we just wanted to bring it to your visual mind, what you stated about shutting the website once paul pentsa is no longer an elder.

this is the point in question dear one!

Moderator
Australia
21 Feb 2023 10:57
1903 views
Let's see what I stated, quote me.

To>yes,but
Australia
21 Feb 2023 12:28
1884 views
Don't you understand what "Not right" said?

Acknowledge your wrong doing and return what is not yours!!

Incorrect
USA
22 Feb 2023 3:19
1811 views
You have so many incorrect statements on your site, who said that J.T.resigned from preaching? You get bits and pieces from a story and then you make things up. You interpret words to your own definitions, just so you can feel good. You remove posts that tell the truth, and posts things that are false, you know the type, fake news that you always come up with. Do you rejoice in falsehood
Moderator?

Moderator
Australia
22 Feb 2023 4:00
1802 views
You are trying to create an impression among the visitors of this website that sometning important and "true" was removed from here. In reality nothing of any meaning and significance has ever been removed. I don't live in Melbourne. I don't know what those elders told Janko Tomek, only the elders and Janko know that. And I don't know if he's allowed to preach but I do know he should NOT be allowed to preach. What I also know is that I'm often dealing with a few visitors here who are not quite right upstairs, to put it mildly. Are you one of them? If you have any significant information you want to share with us, fine, do it, otherwise chill.

Unimpressed
USA
23 Feb 2023 6:21
1703 views
This site has been up for years, and the complaints are still the same. My question is, if the problems are so bad, why haven't the churches affected moved to join the ACCA, or ACF? Is it because they would start the same thing within those bodies?

confirm details
Australia
23 Feb 2023 11:51
1662 views
the ACCA is only worse with reinstating members that have committed sins unto death back as free members.

ACF havent....

moderator dementia?
Australia
1 Mar 2023 14:01
1432 views
U ask people to quote you?
you forgot you said you will end this site?

as if one will go thru thousands of posts to find something of which you are forgetful of - we don't need to do this

'you alsp have removed posts and said - never has posts been removed '

don't trut this site

Moderator
Australia
1 Mar 2023 14:12
1429 views
You can also use Google to search this website (...and convince yourself that such promise has never been made).

Search result
Australia
1 Mar 2023 15:25
1411 views
I have gone through every topic using "Ctrl F" to search through every instance of "site" paying special attention to where comments were from the moderator.
I did not find any instance where the moderator said he would close down this site for any reason.
For those who want to hold the Moderator accountable to keep his word, he did clearly say from memory four times that he would never shut down this site.

maybe
Australia
1 Mar 2023 23:34
1368 views
what if moderator removed that comment?
and
now its obviously not to be found, yeah?

Moderator
Australia
1 Mar 2023 23:48
1366 views
Of course, I expected that sort of question. No, I did not remove any such comment. And you have to believe me, there is no other way.

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