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Not more rebaptizing people who comes from denomination

Worried sick
USA
21 Nov 2022 22:09
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How can this be possible? Are people gone blind? Where has our faith wondered? Our Elders are not strong enough to put down their foot.people walk all over them.as long as they are Elders, God will judge them more for not standing up for the truth.

Moderator
Australia
21 Nov 2022 22:14
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Those baptized by Paul Pentsa should be rebaptized.

I'm dead serious.

please explain
Australia
21 Nov 2022 23:25
2976 views
i didnt understand what exactly is this topic about?

i couldnt grip the meaning of what being discussed?

Moderator
Australia
21 Nov 2022 23:30
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The Yankee is complaining his church accepts people baptized in other denominations.

Really?
USA
22 Nov 2022 5:58
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So are your saying M.S.
That your wife should be re baptized again? Oh, I remembered you left our faith for another denomination. Why are your still picking on our people.
You get a heavy load of sins on your soul! Please repent.everyone reading this website know you! Why hide in perth?

To Moderator
USA
22 Nov 2022 6:00
2943 views
Be careful what you write.
If you are dead serious about people having to be rebaptized if a certain Elder baptized, then you are inferring that salvation comes through the work of the individual Elder and not through faith in the shed blood of Jesus Christ our Lord. You could be shaking someone's faith by your comment. Has any Elder died for us? Were we baptized in the Name of Paul or Barnabas or Chephas (Peter) ?
Be careful.

Moderator
Australia
22 Nov 2022 8:11
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Someone like PP would suggest that people from other denominations should be rebaptized. And I say whoever HE ever baptized should be baptized again, by some honest elders. Because there is no other spirit in Paul Pentsa but the spirit of deceit. His whole life is a deceit. His church work is a deceit. His business, whether it's painting or trading houses or construction, is a deceit. When he hires people to work for him, or borrows money from church members, or pays taxes, or takes people to court, or manipulates church titles, it's always the same at the end, deceit, deceit and more deceit. What spirit do you expect to find in such man?

Really
USA
22 Nov 2022 8:54
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Then maybe you should start with your household, you stated that your sister inlaw was visiting you from Colrado, do you know whether Paul baptized your family members? Your own wife too? Maybe you should think hard before you write unsound remarks.
Apostle Paul wrote about people going from house to house speaking things and subverting the faith of some,....whose mouths must be shut.
This applies to you now.
Stop subverting with your unsound remarks.

Moderator
Australia
22 Nov 2022 12:24
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Well, thank you for being (falsely) concerned for my wife, and yes, I hope and pray she gets rebaptized. We discussed that topic a few times. When or if that happens, I will surely let you know. The same goes with the number of people currently in ACCN, the time will come when they will be doing exactly that - asking to be rebaptized. It's all in God's hands.

Btw. talking about my wife, people may think it was me who forced her, or influenced her, to leave the ACCN. That is not true. It was 100% her decision. I was surprised myself, to be honest, when that happened. Soon after leaving the ACCN, we joined a large Baptist church in Oakden, which is one of Adelaide's inner suburbs. They have two morning services, with 300 to 400 attendants in each service, lots of young single people, as well as families with little children. We spent 8 or 9 years there, and I have absolutely nothing negative to say about that church. They are well organized, with good facilities, always calling people to join picknicks and sport activities. Their preachers (pastors) are very good, gifted professionals, you really receive good spiritual food on Sunday that can carry you through the week. Their main pastor at that time was a dude called Timon, a top preacher, really gifted for that job, but other pastors were also great, including the occasional guest preachers from US, etc. And for all that time I have not seen any abuse, gossip, or power struggle among them. Incredible, eh?

And actually, it was my wife who found that church, not me. A few years after we started going there, she became a member, whereas I did not apply, because they were already doing a great job and didn't need me for anything special. They even had people proficient in IT, Web, media, that sort of stuff. Again, I have to say, normal people, down to Earth, well organized and inspired to spread the word of God. During my time there they even managed to plant a few new churches in Adelaide.

And here in Perth, we started going to a Baptist church in Subiaco, which is another nice place with nice people, but the problem was that Subiaco is quite a long drive from where we live. So, we joined a start-up church in our neighbourhood, a smaller group, for now, with one pastor and around 40 people. It's going very well. The kids love it. Truth to be told, no one there speaks my language, which I miss a bit, and people don't squabble and gossip, like we Yugoslavs always do, which I also miss, but it is what it is, you can't get everything in one package, can you?


Caution
Australia
23 Nov 2022 13:14
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Hello MODERATOR!
I would like this web-site does not exist,and don't like to wright on it, but what brought it to my attention your preaching about rebaptising. First of all baptism does not come from man. God uses man to do his holy work.

2 chronicles 18:19-21
God allowed lying spirit in these prophets to persuade the king.

Now you hope that your wife be rebaptised,it's a great concern not only for her,but for some others especially young members; thair faith might get disturbed.
When your wife got baptised,she truly believed it's a right by her faith,and just because issues with PP her mind begin to doubt.
If she gets rebaptised,(I hope not) after few years or even few decades,you may learn that pastor is not good and satan again will put in her that she needs to get rebaptize.
Nowhere in the bible says we need to be rebaptized. It says; one Lord one faith one baptism.
For with the heart one believes to righteousness, and with the mouth confessions is made to salvation. Rom.10;10

I would suggest since you'r no longer in accn,to close this W/S;you don't need to get involved in accn affaies anymore; It would be better for your salvation.
I know you will not accept my suggestion.



Moderator
Australia
23 Nov 2022 13:59
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Of course I won't.

This website is not here because of me, it's here because of you.

And because of you, it will stay online forever and ever. I am making sure it even outlives me.

Regarding the people who need to be rebaptized, the logic is simple. The ACCN church shamelessly requires all people who want to join it to be baptized again.

This means:

Being baptized in a Baptist church = rubbish
Being baptized in a Catholic church = rubbish
Being baptized in an Anglican church = rubbish
Being baptized in an Orthodox church = rubbish
..etc.

Ok, I'm just adding one more item to the list:

Being baptized by PP = rubbish

Very troubled
Australia
24 Nov 2022 10:21
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Dear moderator
Im very troubled what you wrote that you would let your wife be re-baptized.
So its ok to crucify Jesus again! Seems to me your are a smart man, but very weak in faith! Or no faith at all!.

Will you run
Australia
24 Nov 2022 10:25
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Dear moderator
When you see pp in Perth will you run again? Or will you be able to talk to him face to face and say all these untruths about him?
Be a man and man up and stop hiding behind his evil website.

Moderator
Australia
24 Nov 2022 11:27
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There is no reason for me to believe that I will meet PP personally ever again in my life. I'm quite fine with that. He's a disturbing person, I'd always feel sick in my stomach after talking to him, like I've eaten something rotten. But PP, if he thinks he's got something to discuss with me, can give me a call. Which is something he will never do, I am sure. Same goes for other elders and so-called elders.

Back to baptizing people for the second time... Someone wrote this earlier: "Nowhere in the bible says we need to be rebaptized. It says; one Lord one faith one baptism."

But rebaptizing people who want to join ACCN is ACCN's official doctrine. So who's crazy here?

To moderator
Australia
24 Nov 2022 13:01
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You said ("I hope and pray she gets rebaptize")

Don't you realise by saying that,you are agreeing that people who want to join ACCN need to be rebaptized?


Moderator
Australia
24 Nov 2022 13:09
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Fine, they need to be rebaptized, as well as those baptized by PP.

To moderator
Australia
24 Nov 2022 22:25
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They don't need to be rebaptized, and you wife does not need to be rebaptized.

When your wife got baptized,she was baptized in the name of the Father,the Son and the Holy Ghost. Not in the name of PP.


Moderator
Australia
24 Nov 2022 23:29
2491 views
Romans 16:
I appeal to you, brothers, to watch out for those who cause divisions and create obstacles contrary to the doctrine that you have been taught; avoid them. For such persons do not serve our Lord Christ, but their own appetites, and by smooth talk and flattery they deceive the hearts of the naive.

Those naive are you.


Matthew 7:
“Beware of false prophets, who come to you in sheep's clothing but inwardly are ravenous wolves. You will recognize them by their fruits.

Their fruits: deception, divisions, anger, court cases, web sites...


2 Corinthians 11
For such men are false apostles, deceitful workmen, disguising themselves as apostles of Christ.

Yeah. No one is more faithful then they are, they've never done anything wrong, they are right in all things, if you dare to have a different opinion you are surely losing your faith and going to hell..

Did you ?
USA
25 Nov 2022 8:16
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To Moderator!
Would expect a call from P.P.? Did you supply your cell number or landlines phone number? If you didn't how can you claim that he would not?
You write above Fruits,... anger.court cases, etc.
If you want to be truthful, then post the letter sent to the "Dear website owner ACCN Australia" sent by someone by the name "Sincerly John",in which he states what things P.P. was accused of, are not the truth,, which if people want to know can read the public affidavit of P.P.

Moderator
Australia
25 Nov 2022 10:32
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Who is John?

What?
Australia
25 Nov 2022 11:29
2399 views
Moderator you should know who john is. Don't play stupid now.

Moderator
Australia
25 Nov 2022 11:46
2396 views
I don't know, there are many Johns in this world. If John's name is really John, then I would probably know John.

Think back
Australia
25 Nov 2022 12:30
2373 views
Think real hard moderator! The john (lawyer) who told you the truth that pp is telling the truth. And that's this website you opened up of fraudulent! Now do you know that John?


Moderator
Australia
25 Nov 2022 12:51
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No, not really, to be honest. I tend to forget irrelevant people and irrelevant conversations. What can I do, so many things are happening every day. So what's your point, John the Lawyer said something important about PP and this website? And what's that? And how come that you and this person from the US talk simultaneously about the same John?

Look, as I said before, I don't appreciate these skirmish games and skunk works that you guys practice on this website. If Paul Pentsa has something to say to this website's visitors, great, he is always welcome to write a letter, sign it by his own name, and send it to our email. And I will post it with no alterations. Paul is welcome to address all these issues that bother him, like his removal as an elder, the Sydney court case, this website, his failed business, his departure from Australia, his status in Colorado Springs, and also, if he's willing, he can send us a few photos of his newly built, huge house there, over 8,000 sq feet, according to his wife's proud words.

Jerry springer
Australia
4 Dec 2022 20:28
2121 views
Keep fighting …im eating dinner

Another error of sin
Australia
14 Oct 2024 16:49
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Brunswick in OH is continuing in the sin of falling away by allowing and conducting "another" marriage to go ahead in the ACCN,members with non-members.

Bibles answer
Australia
14 Oct 2024 16:51
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Deuteronomy 7:
3. Neither shalt thou make marriages with them; thy daughter thou shalt not give unto his son, nor his daughter shalt thou take unto thy son.
4. For they will turn away thy son from following me, that they may serve other gods: so will the anger of the LORD be kindled against you, and destroy thee suddenly.

Another verse
Australia
14 Oct 2024 16:54
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1 Cor.7:39

......only in the Lord.



Sin unto death
Australia
14 Oct 2024 22:32
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It seems that people are not understanding, or ignoring the severity of committing a sin unto death.

This 'separation from church' water downed theory of 'sin unto death' what some US Elders have changed, has opened the door to 'falling away'......

MARR.WITH NON-MEMBER
Australia
14 Oct 2024 23:41
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Whoever is performing a marriage between a member and a non-member, is "NOT" lead by the Spirit of the Lord. Which means ... ... ... you work it out.

MM
USA
17 Oct 2024 15:58
358 views
I understand that the Bible says that we are to baptized, but I always was taught that it was not a prerequisite for salvation. Are we not saved the moment we repent of our sins and confess Jesus to be God's son who died and shed His blood for us? I understand that we shouldn't be baptized by just anyone. I'm sure that there are instances in which someone would need to be rebaptized, such as an infant or from a denomination that says they are "Christian" and are not truly Christian. so tell me, if a person is truly sincere and are baptized by someone who is not, how does that nullify their baptism? It's not the fault of the person being baptized that the person baptizing is not right with God. Help me understand as I would believe that God would still honor it even though the person baptizing is in the wrong. I don't know PP and will probably never meet him ever. I am a member of the ACCA. It saddens me to think that if PP did what is said he did that he would not voluntarily step down from the office they held. It scares me that such a conviction would not be present in someone like that (allegedly).

Rraf
Australia
17 Oct 2024 16:56
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The like figure whereunto even baptism doth also now save us (not the putting away of the filth of the flesh, but the answer of a good conscience toward God,) by the resurrection of Jesus Christ:

1 pet 3.21

the End is Nigh
Australia
19 Oct 2024 4:25
297 views
Comment To MM: There are false brethren, (2Corith.11:26) and there are false prophets in sheep's clothing (Matt.7:15), and there are false teachers among YOU (2Pet.2:1 & please read Acts 20:29,30) and there are false apostles (2Corin.7:13) whom we should Not follow; even though it cannot be that these things be not fulfilled. Who has intelligence with them that forsake the holy covenant (Daniel 11). Whichever way you look at it, 'the end is nigh'. The Lord could not stop Judas from betraying the Lord to those who were outside of Christ's fold. (Even though they had the name, "chief" priests and "elders", they were actually outside of Christ's fold.) Any idea what goes on behind closed doors?

Moderator
Australia
19 Oct 2024 4:30
293 views
Just to reiterate:

It's better being baptized multiple times than not being baptized at all.

It's also better being baptized multiple times than being baptized once, by a wrong person.

fear not
Australia
19 Oct 2024 12:22
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Dear beloved brethren.
We have young ones in the faith newly baptised and we have those waiting for baptism. This is a great joy and celebration for us and the angels and mostly for the precious Heart of our Father in Heaven. Because I do not want the new ones to find discouragement I wish to bring to light some things about our most blessed journey with our Lord.

1 Corinthians 10:1 Moreover, brethren, I would not that ye should be ignorant, how that all our fathers were under the cloud, and all passed through the sea;
2 And were all baptized unto Moses in the cloud and in the sea;
Here Paul compares baptism with crossing the Red Sea. We know that Pharaoh's army was not able to follow the Israelites after that point- they were drowned. This is a picture that our old lives as slaves to sin (Egypt) is over and we now have a new Master to follow as He leads us to our promised land. This is a wonderful day for us where heaven and earth together rejoice. We do not have to do this again and again.

But what happens if an unworthy elder performs elder duties?
God still honors the office He appointed whether or not the one holding the office is worthy.

John 11:49 And one of them, named Caiaphas, being the high priest that same year, said unto them, Ye know nothing at all,
50 Nor consider that it is expedient for us, that one man should die for the people, and that the whole nation perish not.
51 And this spake he not of himself: but being high priest that year, he prophesied that Jesus should die for that nation;

Caiaphas hated Jesus and wanted Him destroyed. Even so God prophesied through him in honor of his office.

Matthew 26:62 And the high priest arose, and said unto him, Answerest thou nothing? what is it which these witness against thee?
63 But Jesus held his peace. And the high priest answered and said unto him, I adjure thee by the living God, that thou tell us whether thou be the Christ, the Son of God.
64 Jesus saith unto him, Thou hast said: nevertheless I say unto you, Hereafter shall ye see the Son of man sitting on the right hand of power, and coming in the clouds of heaven.

Jesus would not speak to Caiaphas. But when he said "I adjure thee by the living God" Jesus honored his office and spoke. Our Father will give His Holy Spirit to those who ask.

Psalms 27:10 When my father and my mother forsake me, then the LORD will take me up.

Even if your elders are not worthy, fear not little flock. The Lord will take care of you fully aware of what is happening. Keep seeking the face of Jesus your Saviour and you will do well.

take consideration
Australia
19 Oct 2024 20:52
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The world will not be destroyed by those who do evil, but by those who watch them without doing anything.

Albert Einstein's comment.


“For I say unto you, That except your righteousness shall exceed the righteousness of the scribes and Pharisees, ye shall in no case enter into the kingdom of heaven.”
matt.5:20


another
Australia
19 Oct 2024 20:54
238 views
.....important verse.

James 4:17

Therefore to him that knoweth to do good, and doeth it not, to him it is sin.

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