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Baptism in Mt Cottrell, Melbourne

Moderator
Australia
5 Apr 2023 1:36
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There will be a baptism in the Mt Cottrell church near Melbourne at the end of May.

Most likely, North American elders Mark Igic and Matea Augustinov will be coming, as well as John Petrak from Brisbane.

Jim Igic
USA
6 Apr 2023 18:37
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So Jim Igic is not going as was previously stated.

Moderator
Australia
7 Apr 2023 20:35
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If Jim's not double vaxxed, he'll have to stay home.

double check
Australia
8 Apr 2023 14:41
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US citizens and residents can leave and come back without the vaccine.

Here we go again
USA
10 Apr 2023 0:56
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So who will pay for travel expenses this time?
They have other Elders in Australia that were ordained by American Elders, why not have them do the baptism? Do the American Elders not recognize their own work? Are they better than Cucanic and Baumann? What is the difference between them?

reasons
Australia
10 Apr 2023 8:07
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the difference is beacuse the US elders have:

- respect of persons
- partiality
and
- the US elders like to be lords over Gods heritage

paying
Australia
10 Apr 2023 8:08
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janko tomek will be paying for their travel expenses.

he has enough stolen money from Altona Church sale

Sick of lie's
USA
10 Apr 2023 11:43
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Surprised that mark and matea augustinov are visiting Melbourne for baptism. They said they have no interest in Melbourne..bunch of liars. Jim backed out because he knows vlado is a liar and he's not comfortable going forward.. God's judgement is coming and the truth will be resolved by our creator.

Reason
Australia
11 Apr 2023 1:19
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American Elders ought to ordain another Elder in Australia (Mt.Cottrell) that will be V.P. because VP and JT don't want to work with Elder from Altona.
VP again deceitfully paved his way.

That is pathetic if American Elders not recognize thair own work.


Please explain
Australia
11 Apr 2023 11:19
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Who is going to be accountable for stealing Altona Church?
And
Selling the Church without agreement?

Does anyone think how God thinks?

They need to be punished, not promoted for being in sin.

Accountable
Australia
11 Apr 2023 12:22
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Removed elder Paul pentsa and now retired elder Paul pentsa thinks when he retires from eldership, that all his former sins will be automatically forgiven!!!!!

He approved, allowed and 100% agreed, supported and gave the green light for tomek and papuga to steal Altona Church building and money, and to sell it without agreement.

Does pentsa think he will get away with it by appointing others to be elders???

Many will be surprised on the last day if they don't repent.

what forgives sin
Australia
11 Apr 2023 14:13
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does paul pentsa think that running to the US and ordaining john petrak as elder, forgives allowing the selling of altona church?

does paul pentsa think acting super nice with Elder Miodrag Cucanic forgives allowing the selling of altona church?


the bible is the answer:

James 5:16
“Confess your faults one to another, and pray one for another, that ye may be healed. The effectual fervent prayer of a righteous man availeth much.”

"Retired"
USA
11 Apr 2023 21:54
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"Retired" elder PP? Talk to the elders in Hungary and you will hear what really happened.

"Retired"
USA
11 Apr 2023 21:55
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PP is doing an excellent job of hiding what really happened.

un-truthed truth
Australia
11 Apr 2023 22:53
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retired in words by paul pentsa in australia
but
he attended and participated in a baptism in Florida a few weeks after his announcement as a retired elder

who can you believe these days?



To Retired
USA
14 Apr 2023 18:22
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By reading your comments It seems like the Hungarian elders forced PP to retire. He didn’t do it of his own free will. Why don’t the Hungarian elders just come out and say it?

honesty means what?
Australia
15 Apr 2023 1:16
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if he did retire, he wouldnt have participated to do work as an elder in Florida after the date that he STATED he is retiring from eldership.

how honest was he?

honest means:
free of deceit; being truthful and sincere:




Moderator
Australia
15 Apr 2023 1:36
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Interesting. And what's that date?

Not So
USA
15 Apr 2023 15:21
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PP only retired from serving Mt. Cottrell and the next Sunday he also retired from Marsden church since he ordained a new Elder in his home church. Here in Phoenix church retired Elder Walter Bodjanc had a part in the last Baptism, it seems that retired Elders can still assist if local Elder invites,retired elder And an elder that resigns his position as an Elder are treated differently. Like David Nicolason, he didn't retire, he resigned.

read slowly
Australia
15 Apr 2023 16:17
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retire means:

leave one's job and cease to work.

david nicolson did not resign, he was removed because of sin.



Moderator
Australia
15 Apr 2023 16:26
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In any case, this means that the ACCN church is still protecting its abusers, just like the Catholic church is protecting its paedophiles. Nothing ever changes.

"Retired"
USA
16 Apr 2023 6:16
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In Europe it is common knowledge that PP was forced to retire and performed the next baptism out of spite only because his brother allowed him to. I just cant believe how well its being covered up.

Hello dummies
USA
27 Apr 2023 1:05
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So why did the Hungarian Elders invite PP to the elders meetings? Tell me that! Why so many lies again!

when
Australia
27 Apr 2023 11:05
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you sure the hungarian elders invited PP to which elder meeting?

PP didnt attend the european elder meetings for the last 15-20 yrs.....

Not So
USA
28 Apr 2023 17:06
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That is incorrect, PP was at the 2016 Elder Meeting in Europe, and after,due to covid and Border Closure he could not attend even though he was invited. So please stop writing things that you do not know facts about.

Please explain
Australia
28 Apr 2023 23:28
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the hungarian elders have advised PP many years back that they can not keep correspondence at a level with his attendance to their elder meetings, and his attendance to the european elder meeting due to spiritual differences.
one was having a TV (the devil's tool in your home)
and
while they visited Australia back in 2008/2009, PP removed his TV while the hungarian elders were visiting him

What is it
Australia
29 Apr 2023 0:06
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If Hungarians consider PP more liberal,why than they accepted his invitation to come to Australia to do the work?
Are they hypocrites?

Very Funny
USA
29 Apr 2023 6:25
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You have a TV if you have a smart Phone, so every person who has that type of phone, carry the devil's tool in their hands, or in their pockets or purse.
So what is the difference, you can use the phone for good or evil to gossip and speak lies, it is not the tool you use that is sin, it is the choices we make what to use that tool for, good or evil.

read
Australia
29 Apr 2023 16:33
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Deuteronomy 7:26
“Neither shalt thou bring an abomination into thine house, lest thou be a cursed thing like it: but thou shalt utterly detest it, and thou shalt utterly abhor it; for it is a cursed thing.”

@read
USA
6 May 2023 3:22
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The abomination mentioned in that verse was an idol, can a TV be an idol? Yes, but so can almost everything we use. Remember we will be judged with the judgement we judge others with. If you are condemning your brothers and sisters for having a TV and using discernment, how is God going to judge you for the items you have in your life? Why do you own a car that takes you to church when that car can also drive you to a strip club, or bar? Maybe your car is an abomination because it can take you to bad places.

read slowly
Australia
6 May 2023 20:53
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the car was not made or invented for a bad purpose

a tv was.

the intentions behind it is whats in question.

the car on its own was not intended for an evil desire or use.

the tv channels was and is, escpecially when its governed by sinners

the verse is DIRECTLY talking about something you can bring into a home that is known a sin, leads to sin and practised many sinful acts and led by sinners

dont try to water down facts

its hard when the elders and churches have agreed allowing this.....it is hard, but not impossible if we have our mind set on heavenly things and ready for change in the right and better ways of holy living

the tv is a devils feasted table



User
USA
16 May 2023 12:08
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I’m not sure a TV was created for a bad purpose either – did its inventors say that its purpose was to propagate sin? It certainly has been used for bad purposes, I definitely don’t dispute that! And it’s one reason we don’t have one in our home. But I think the point of one of the posts above is that anyone with a smart phone basically also has a TV. I haven’t looked, but there are likely ‘apps’ available on it that are the equivalent of television. As such, it’s hard to come down hard on a plywood box called the television if we also have a smart phone in hand. I personally use a smart phone, but I’ve known some Christians who don’t, as they feel they might be tempted to use it for sinful purposes, and I certainly respect that. What are your thoughts on spart phones?

But the internet has also been used for sinful purposes. Personally, I think the internet is far, far worse than the television ever was and contains way more filth. But following the logic you expressed, we shouldn’t have the internet in our homes either. And yet, it wouldn’t be possible to make posts in this forum without the internet. Do you use the internet, or is that fundamentally different from the television?

I’ve learned that almost anything in life can be either good or bad, depending on how it is used (or misused), such that it’s too simplistic to just say it’s all bad. Almost anything – I realize there are some things that don’t have any good purpose. ;)

And by the way sir, I mean no offense, but sometimes the language used in your posts can come across as demeaning or belittling. Or even arrogant. I’m thinking of things like posting with ‘read slowly’ as the name or that kind of thing, where it basically implies that the person you’re conversing with is some kind of idiot or fool. Or that he/she doesn’t know the Word or is so think that he/she is ignoring it. At least, this is how it comes across to me, even though it’s not directed at me. I’m sure you don’t mean it to come across that way, I’m just pointing it out in the hopes it could be adjusted so that people actually ‘hear’ the points you’re making instead of potentially dismissing them. If there was a way on this forum to contact you privately instead of saying this here, I would do so.

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