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ACF elders asking converts detailed sexual questions.

Highly concerned
USA
26 Apr 2023 9:29
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This has become an issue in the ACF church, elders are asking young converts a list or questions including if they have ever used adult toys, and other things that are exposing these children to sexual ideas most of them were previously innocent to.

The same elder is asking married couples questions that seem to be less about their personal holiness, and more about his personal curiosity.

I know this site is about the ACCN, but this needs to be brought to light, and exposed to the other branches of the AC movement. Most members are brainwashed into thinking the elder is doing this in good faith, but it has pushed many people back to the ACCA, or out into the world.

Is this something that was lost in the ACCA/N that the ACF is trying to go back to? Or just a few perverted old men that get satisfaction by asking 13 year old girls about their sexual history?

Moderator
Australia
26 Apr 2023 10:25
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Do you mean to say that the ACF baptizes 13 year old children?

Highly concerned
USA
26 Apr 2023 10:36
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I'm not sure what age they baptize, I am hearing all this from 2 friends that have family in the ACF. Apparently some of their elders have a list of questions they are asking converts when they start repenting. I know kids begin their conversion as young as 10 sometimes, but 13 is the youngest I have heard being asked adult questions.



Highly concerned
USA
26 Apr 2023 10:38
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P.S. these two friends are not related to each other, and both have a very similar story from different states.

Interesting
Australia
26 Apr 2023 12:39
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Who is this ACF church and where is the location?
Did they split from ACCA or ACCN?

Highly concerned
USA
26 Apr 2023 13:45
1635 views
ACF stands for Apostolic Christian Faith. They broke out of the ACCA, but have pulled quite a number of ACCN members into their ranks in Ohio, and Canada.

anyone know
Australia
26 Apr 2023 14:12
1625 views
for which reason/s did they break away?

ACC
USA
27 Apr 2023 6:11
1555 views
The national ACC changed
Policies on reinstatement, which the ACF do not agree with.

more details please
Australia
27 Apr 2023 11:03
1527 views
reinstatement for what and for who?

@ACC
USA
28 Apr 2023 1:05
1484 views
ACC,

It wasn't really that cut and dry. The issue goes back much further. Reinstatement was one of the issues brought up, but differing views on the Blood of Christ was the biggest deal. The ACF founding elders believed that once a believer sins after baptism, Christ's blood covering is of no affect, and one must rely on Jesus's advocacy before God for salvation. This leads to calling some sin shortcomings, and the national church elders were saying this is very risky because the ACF elders were dismissing sin.

The split also lined up with values brought in from the Mennonite/Amish US converts vs. the churches that were founded directly from European immigrants.

Also?
Australia
28 Apr 2023 11:43
1448 views
Did the sins unto death theory come into question?

FromEureka
USA
4 Jun 2024 16:18
440 views
It was AC Faith Church outside of Eureka. Not the ACCA church in Eureka. Their elder was Steve Martin and yes, many single teenage females were asked the detailed questions. Couples who had “sinned” prior to marriage (during engagement period) also were asked very detailed questions. He was made to retire after all this came out. He’s an embarrassment to them.

pls confirm
Australia
5 Jun 2024 0:13
421 views
Did I understand it right?

That the ACCN believe in reinstating back into the fellowship if a member commits a sin unto death?
and
The ACF don't reinstate those members?

Guess not
USA
13 Jun 2024 15:28
290 views
Oh wow, what a story. I always though Faith church was perfect.

does any1 know
Australia
13 Jun 2024 16:34
287 views
Did I understand it right?

That the ACCN believe in reinstating back into the fellowship if a member commits a sin unto death?
and
The ACF don't reinstate those members?


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